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Eichel Fair Offer

Créé par: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Date de création initiale: jui 31, 2021
Publié: 31 jui à 21 h 43
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi22 000 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. 2022 3e round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
MTL
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Caufield, Cole
  2. Primeau, Cayden
  3. 2022 1e round pick (MTL)
  4. 2023 1e round pick (MTL)
Rachats de contrats
  • Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
MTL
MTL
ANA
NYI
MTL
TBL
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2024
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $78 138 394 $597 561 $1 175 000 $3 361 606 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Hoffman, Mike
4 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
4 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
MTL
Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 300 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
2 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Armia, Joel
3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Perreault, Mathieu
950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Paquette, Cédric
950 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
MTL
Evans, Jake
750 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Petry, Jeff
6 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
MTL
Savard, David
3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
MTL
Allen, Jake
2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
894 167 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
MTL
Wideman, Chris
750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2

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31 jui à 21 h 45
#1
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Easy too do coming from a Leafs fans
MTL should throw Suzuki making sure Leafs beat the Habs every game this season
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31 jui à 21 h 47
#2
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Why would the Isles do that?
31 jui à 21 h 48
#3
Absolute legend
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Can't see Habs doing that.
31 jui à 21 h 49
#4
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I don't mind taking a gamble on Eichel, but definitely not at that price.
31 jui à 21 h 57
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Quoting: Poehling
Easy too do coming from a Leafs fans
MTL should throw Suzuki making sure Leafs beat the Habs every game this season


Putting in Suzuki would make this trade useless. The reason the Habs trade for Eichel is to solidfy themselves at centre.

Quoting: BergevinBurner
I don't mind taking a gamble on Eichel, but definitely not at that price.


I think that's what it takes to get him. I honestly think the trade improves Montreal in a big way. If you like Suzuki you'll love Eichel. He's a bigger more skilled and more talented version of Suzuki.

Quoting: Trotz2020
Why would the Isles do that?


Why not?

Quoting: justaBoss
Can't see Habs doing that.


If they get a legit franchise 1C they are strong in every other position.

Caufield would be playing on the 3rd line, Primeau would be in the AHL and the 2 1sts will be late ones. I don't see why not.
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31 jui à 22 h 07
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
If they get a legit franchise 1C they are strong in every other position.

Caufield would be playing on the 3rd line, Primeau would be in the AHL and the 2 1sts will be late ones. I don't see why not.


Habs are balls deep in Caufield. If they acquire Eichel they'd want to put Caufield to his wing to score those goals. Prior to Hoffman signing he was their only actual sniper.

Besides BUF would want a center. And after the Levi acquisition Primeau is fairly pointless at this point.
31 jui à 22 h 14
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Quoting: justaBoss
Habs are balls deep in Caufield. If they acquire Eichel they'd want to put Caufield to his wing to score those goals. Prior to Hoffman signing he was their only actual sniper.

Besides BUF would want a center. And after the Levi acquisition Primeau is fairly pointless at this point.


That's like when Toronto traded Rask cause they had Pogge.

More goalie prospects is better. Goalies are inconsistent.
31 jui à 22 h 18
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
That's like when Toronto traded Rask cause they had Pogge.

More goalie prospects is better. Goalies are inconsistent.


They already have Luukkonen. They acquired Levi under the same rationale.
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31 jui à 22 h 43
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
That's like when Toronto traded Rask cause they had Pogge.

More goalie prospects is better. Goalies are inconsistent.


Certainly no team is taking 5.5m Drouin just because Habs want cap space. Gee, I wouldn't trade 10m Eichel for 1m Caulfied. That 9m difference can get you a very good player.
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31 jui à 22 h 48
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Why are people still thinking Eichel is worth this bounty with so many question marks.. makes no sense
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31 jui à 22 h 58
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Quoting: OlegP
Why are people still thinking Eichel is worth this bounty with so many question marks.. makes no sense


He’s a Leafs, he is doing this on purpose
It’s like me doing a Leafs post trading Marner + Robertson + Sandin for Pesce because they need a good RHD shutdown dman
31 jui à 22 h 58
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Putting in Suzuki would make this trade useless. The reason the Habs trade for Eichel is to solidfy themselves at centre.

Caufield is already playing 1RW lmao

I think that's what it takes to get him. I honestly think the trade improves Montreal in a big way. If you like Suzuki you'll love Eichel. He's a bigger more skilled and more talented version of Suzuki.



Why not?



If they get a legit franchise 1C they are strong in every other position.

Caufield would be playing on the 3rd line, Primeau would be in the AHL and the 2 1sts will be late ones. I don't see why not.
31 jui à 23 h 02
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Zegras/Suzuki/Caufield/Drysdale/Kakko/Lafreniere.

Not happening. Never once have I seen these names been floated.

It will be a Krebs type or Kravtsov. You are not getting a bonafide elite player in the nhl today at entry level contracts in this deal. Buffalo will have to shelter a lot of risk just like Eichel is a huge risk for the team getting him.
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31 jui à 23 h 18
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Quoting: OlegP
Zegras/Suzuki/Caufield/Drysdale/Kakko/Lafreniere.

Not happening. Never once have I seen these names been floated.

It will be a Krebs type or Kravtsov. You are not getting a bonafide elite player in the nhl today at entry level contracts in this deal. Buffalo will have to shelter a lot

of risk just like Eichel is a huge risk for the team getting him.


Exactly we all know eichel is a superstar and that he cost a lot but with the surgery that he need and the mysteri begin it, NO GM are gonna put big money like he would be worth normaly and what the Sabre ask right now. People have to understand exactly what you said

Neither of this guy are gonna be in a trade for Jack….
31 jui à 23 h 48
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Quoting: Poehling
He’s a Leafs, he is doing this on purpose
It’s like me doing a Leafs post trading Marner + Robertson + Sandin for Pesce because they need a good RHD shutdown dman


Lol... the pieces I have in this trade are bearly worth Marner alone. He had the 4th most points out of any player in the entire NHL.

Eichel is a franchise C. Pesce isn't even the best D man on his team.

Habs fans keep saying Eichel is damaged goods but he was injured last season and was getting more points per game than anyone on your whole team. Imagine what he can do healthy.
31 jui à 23 h 51
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Lol... the pieces I have in this trade are bearly worth Marner alone. He had the 4th most points out of any player in the entire NHL.

Eichel is a franchise C. Pesce isn't even the best D man on his team.

Habs fans keep saying Eichel is damaged goods but he was injured last season and was getting more points per game than anyone on your whole team. Imagine what he can do healthy.


Marner is dog**** in the playoffs
Who cares what he can do in the regular season
We don’t care what Eichel is if it means Suzuki or Caufield going the other way
31 jui à 23 h 56
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Quoting: Poehling
Marner is dog**** in the playoffs
Who cares what he can do in the regular season
We don’t care what Eichel is if it means Suzuki or Caufield going the other way


That's fine. I'm just showing you guys what it takes. I'm tired of KK (bust) + 1st (nice piece) + Drouin (cap dump) for Eichel. It's not even remotely close.
1 aoû à 0 h 14
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
That's fine. I'm just showing you guys what it takes. I'm tired of KK (bust) + 1st (nice piece) + Drouin (cap dump) for Eichel. It's not even remotely close.


Kotkaniemi is a bust because of what ? That he didn’t produce like a 3OA at 18-19-20 yo ?
1 aoû à 0 h 18
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Quoting: Poehling
Kotkaniemi is a bust because of what ? That he didn’t produce like a 3OA at 18-19-20 yo ?


I wouldn't give up a 1st for him and he was the 3rd OA pick.
1 aoû à 0 h 40
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
I wouldn't give up a 1st for him and he was the 3rd OA pick.


That’s because you didn’t watched him play
1 aoû à 11 h 26
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Just asking, would you want Matthews+Marner+Robertson+Campbell for Danault since you need a shutdown centre?
1 aoû à 11 h 28
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
That's fine. I'm just showing you guys what it takes. I'm tired of KK (bust) + 1st (nice piece) + Drouin (cap dump) for Eichel. It's not even remotely close.


How is KK a bust? He already has more playoff goals than Mitch Marner, who certainly isn't a bust.
1 aoû à 11 h 30
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Quoting: joesunsunjoe
Just asking, would you want Matthews+Marner+Robertson+Campbell for Danault since you need a shutdown centre?


Matthews is worth more than Suzuki + Caufield + Primeau.

You gotta pay for legit franchise 1Cs. I don't think you've seen Eichel play very much if you don't think this is a legit offer.

Danault is overpaid. Habs had the cap space but still didn't re-sign him.
1 aoû à 11 h 32
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Quoting: joesunsunjoe
How is KK a bust? He already has more playoff goals than Mitch Marner, who certainly isn't a bust.


He's averaging 29 points per 82 game season and he was drafted higher than Marner.

As a Sens fan I gotta thank you for gifting us Tkachuk.
1 aoû à 11 h 50
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Putting in Suzuki would make this trade useless. The reason the Habs trade for Eichel is to solidfy themselves at centre.

I think that's what it takes to get him. I honestly think the trade improves Montreal in a big way. If you like Suzuki you'll love Eichel. He's a bigger more skilled and more talented version of Suzuki.

Why not?

If they get a legit franchise 1C they are strong in every other position.

Caufield would be playing on the 3rd line, Primeau would be in the AHL and the 2 1sts will be late ones. I don't see why not.


Caufield's position next to Suzuki is his to lose. If he does lose it, he's better off getting more time in the AHL and coming back stronger.

This is at least reasonable, but I'd put conditions on the 1sts. Buffalo has legitimate concerns with regards to his surgery and there's at least a possibility we won't get the player we are paying for.
(I also think it should be the player's choice to get the surgery he wants.)
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