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cant afford Hughes too small too expensive

Créé par: kingkanuck
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 31 juill. 2021
Publié: 31 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Let's say Hughes thinks he worth $8.0M to 9.0M per year
I think that is far too much for a 5'10" 170lb. -24 Dman
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  1. Bahl, Kevin
  2. Sharangovich, Yegor [Droits de RFA]
  3. Siegenthaler, Jonas
  4. Zetterlund, Fabian
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
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YS is 6'3" 195 and 23 scored 16 goals and 14 assist and is able to play anywhere in the lineup
JS is a 24 year old 6'3" 210 second round pick with 105 games of NHL experience
KB is a 6'6" 220 21 year old and a second round pick with potential as a shutdown Dman
FZ is 5'11" 196 C/RW and an improving second round prospect
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  1. Hughes, Quinn [Droits de RFA]
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31 juill. 2021 à 16 h 48
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That return doesn’t even cover half the value of Hughes!
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31 juill. 2021 à 16 h 51
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Sigh someone who doesn’t care about skill
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31 juill. 2021 à 16 h 56
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Hughes starts with Ty Smith, Yego Sharangovich, and a first round pick. Canucks don’t have to send Hughes to New Jersey so Jersey has to overpay to get him
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31 juill. 2021 à 17 h 4
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My first reaction to this trade was, "Man if we did this, our defense would have one top 4 D and 5 bottom pairing D", then I realized we are only one injury away from being in the same situation!
31 juill. 2021 à 17 h 5
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Quoting: Juiceman
Hughes starts with Ty Smith, Yego Sharangovich, and a first round pick. Canucks don’t have to send Hughes to New Jersey so Jersey has to overpay to get him


Devils wouldn't pay that much for Quinn Hughes
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31 juill. 2021 à 17 h 10
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I care about winning and I don't think you can win with a bunch of lightweight Dmen. That's why I don't want Ty Smith. Perhaps the second round pick could be upgraded to a first. Hughes is fun to watch but isn't nearly as good as Makar. Mark my words, he will get seriously injured at some point and then what have you got for your $8M ? Also trades have to work for both parties.
31 juill. 2021 à 17 h 36
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Just be thankful you have Quinn Hughes. Jared Spurgeon is 5'9" and barely 170 pounds, yet has played 707 games in 11 seasons, three of which were shortened.
31 juill. 2021 à 17 h 42
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Quoting: Devil1122
Devils wouldn't pay that much for Quinn Hughes


Ok. We are happy with Quinn Hughes and don’t need to trade him.
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31 juill. 2021 à 19 h 44
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Ok. We are happy with Quinn Hughes and don’t need to trade him.


I think we're both better off with the Hughes we have.
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2 août 2021 à 3 h 21
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Quoting: Devil1122
Devils wouldn't pay that much for Quinn Hughes


ok u can have 2/3 hughes brothers vancouver will keep 1/3
ur a devils fan so ur def overvaluing ur players
2 août 2021 à 4 h 7
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Just be thankful you have Quinn Hughes. Jared Spurgeon is 5'9" and barely 170 pounds, yet has played 707 games in 11 seasons, three of which were shortened.


Counter points to that:
1. 0 Playoffs series with Spurgeon as a top pair RD.
2. 1 season without missing games due to injury. He misses about 8 games a year on average.
3. A career -14 in the Playoffs. +1 (once) is a career high.

Plainly put, small d-men don't work in the Playoffs. It's one of the reasons teams pay so much for the big bottom-6 grinders. They just beat on them until they wear down and make mistakes.
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2 août 2021 à 10 h 13
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Quoting: yeboi6
ok u can have 2/3 hughes brothers vancouver will keep 1/3
ur a devils fan so ur def overvaluing ur players


You're a Canucks fan so you're definitely overvaluing your players
2 août 2021 à 18 h 47
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ok u can have 2/3 hughes brothers vancouver will keep 1/3
ur a devils fan so ur def overvaluing ur players


It's not a matter of value, but of roster structure. We can't possibly afford to pay Quinn Hughes the contract he's going to demand when we already have Hamilton, Luke Hughes, and Ty Smith in the organization; we also don't need a top-pairing LHD-when we already have Ty Smith (and Luke Hughes as a prospect). Even worse, losing Sharangovich without replacement would leave us with all of two sure top-9 wingers. Even if the value were good - which I don't think it is, but that's not the main point here - this works for the Canucks organization, but it doesn't work for the Devils.
 
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