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How much of a negative value asset is Drouin

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 31 juill. 2021
Publié: 31 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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How much of a negative value asset is Drouin?

In other words, how much would Montreal have to retain to make him a neutral value asset, able to be traded without anything in return?

Avs have about $4.3m available for a forward so could add Drouin at $1.3m retained without salary going out.
Transactions
COL
  1. Drouin, Jonathan (1 300 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
A buyout costs $1.8m x 4 years. Retaining $1.3m saves $500k for 2 years and then $1.8m the next 2 years.
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $81 453 130 $1 741 463 $3 432 500 $46 870 $
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    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 4
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    4 200 000 $4 200 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
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    908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
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    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
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    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    725 000 $725 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
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    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 6
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    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 6
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    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
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    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    809 167 $809 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
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    875 000 $875 000 $
    DG/DD, AG
    UFA - 1

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    31 juill. 2021 à 13 h 57
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    The Habs already said he was feeling good and was going to be at camp
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    31 juill. 2021 à 13 h 57
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    Why not just sign Tatar? Hes better than Drouin and probably costs around 4-4.5M
    31 juill. 2021 à 13 h 57
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    Don't want him for anything
    31 juill. 2021 à 14 h 17
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    I think MTL will need to just keep him. No team is taking him for free. Someone will take him 50% retained because there's not a lot of risk there, but MTL shouldn't do that either. Best to just let him play in MTL.
    31 juill. 2021 à 14 h 36
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    Quoting: nchest
    The Habs already said he was feeling good and was going to be at camp


    Source?

    Do you know what his issue was? One would think that he'd be eager to help his team in the playoffs.
    31 juill. 2021 à 14 h 38
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    Quoting: exo2769
    I think MTL will need to just keep him. No team is taking him for free. Someone will take him 50% retained because there's not a lot of risk there, but MTL shouldn't do that either. Best to just let him play in MTL.


    It’s been reported that if Drouin was available, a couple teams would be on him. Young talented player always keep value
    So he has positive value (I’m just the messenger)
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    31 juill. 2021 à 14 h 38
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    Quoting: Richard88
    Source?

    Do you know what his issue was? One would think that he'd be eager to help his team in the playoffs.


    Marc Bergevin ? He said Drouin will be at training camp
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    31 juill. 2021 à 14 h 43
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    Quoting: Richard88
    Source?

    Do you know what his issue was? One would think that he'd be eager to help his team in the playoffs.


    The source is Bergevin himself.
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    31 juill. 2021 à 14 h 45
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    Bergevin will not trade him at 0 value... he will wait 2 months into the season after he puts up 20pts in 25 games playing with suzuki and Caufield.
    31 juill. 2021 à 14 h 52
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    Modifié 31 juill. 2021 à 14 h 57
    Quoting: Poehling
    It’s been reported that if Drouin was available, a couple teams would be on him. Young talented player always keep value
    So he has positive value (I’m just the messenger)


    Sure, I mean "rumors and reporting" claimed Holtby had value too. I'm sure those rumors included alot of retention. Can't imagine MB actually wanted to lose Danault if he could have shed Drouin for free.
    I hear ya. Just a messenger. Not trying to pin you down. I just have a hard time seeing him having value at $5.5M in this flat cap environment. Saad just signed for less and he's a playoff beast.
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    31 juill. 2021 à 14 h 56
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    Untill camp opens and we all know what he was dealing with, he wont be traded with negative value or bought out.

    He apparently is ready to come back so under that pretense, hes worth more to us than in a negative value trade. He hasnt asked for a trade and the team wont trade him for nothing. Hes still good just not what we hoped.

    Im not even adverse to keeping him. We really need a speedy puck mover like him. Lots of goalscorers on this team now, need some passers to get it to them.

    A player with the skill set of Drouin, if he comes back 100%, is kind of what we need right now so i think MB isnt trying to just dump his salary for nothing.
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    31 juill. 2021 à 15 h 2
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    Quoting: F50marco
    Untill camp opens and we all know what he was dealing with, he wont be traded with negative value or bought out.

    He apparently is ready to come back so under that pretense, hes worth more to us than in a negative value trade. He hasnt asked for a trade and the team wont trade him for nothing. Hes still good just not what we hoped.

    Im not even adverse to keeping him. We really need a speedy puck mover like him. Lots of goalscorers on this team now, need some passers to get it to them.

    A player with the skill set of Drouin, if he comes back 100%, is kind of what we need right now so i think MB isnt trying to just dump his salary for nothing.


    Why not resign Tatar if you need a playmaker? You know he works well in Montreal with Gallagher.
    31 juill. 2021 à 15 h 5
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    Why not resign Tatar if you need a playmaker? You know he works well in Montreal with Gallagher.


    He doesnt show up when it counts and chances are he didnt want to resign in MTL after being a healthy scratch in the playoffs. Wasnt a playmaker anyway, more of a dangler/shooter. Drouin is more of what the Habs could use as he is a good passer/distributer.

    Also we have Drouin under contract, Tatar is a UFA. Why sign someone when we have somebody already here under contract.
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