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This would make us all a little bit more conifdent in the Leafs next year

Créé par: adamorimoli61
Date de création initiale: jui 30, 2021
Publié: 30 jui à 10 h 43
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler43 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Bozak, Tyler21 000 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. 2022 4e round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. 2023 4e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler [Droits de RFA]
DET
  1. Amirov, Rodion
  2. Mikheyev, Ilya
  3. 2023 2e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Domi, Max (2 650 000 $ retained)
CBJ
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Abruzzese, Nick [Liste de réserve]
  3. 2023 3e round pick (TOR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
TOR
TOR
ARI
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
2024
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 059 783 $0 $1 650 000 $440 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Bertuzzi, Tyler
3 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
TOR
Bunting, Michael
950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
796 667 $
AG
RFA - 3
CBJ
Domi, Max
2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Bozak, Tyler
1 000 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Brooks, Adam
725 000 $
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Kämpf, David
1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Mrázek, Petr
3 800 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
1 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 1

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30 jui à 10 h 45
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Detroit declines.
30 jui à 10 h 47
#2
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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I don't know how an injured Domi, and really an non performing Domi makes the Leafs better. That is a really bad trade for the Leafs. Leafs trade the better player and more for an upcoming UFA.shakes head
30 jui à 10 h 52
#3
Go Wings Go
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Dude for the last time, Yzerman isn't trading Tyler Bertuzzi for futures, And on a 4 year deal you're looking at closer to $5,000,000 per year to sign Bertuzzi not your low ball offer.
30 jui à 11 h 12
#4
PlusMinus is stupid
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Nope.

The thing you Leafs fans can't seem to wrap your heads around, is the fact that we have no reason to move Bertuzzi, so someone would need to overpay to get him. Pay a king's ransom, or don't get him, that simple.
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30 jui à 12 h 12
#5
Will9739
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Another dopey Bertuzzi trade... next.
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30 jui à 13 h 50
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Nope.

The thing you Leafs fans can't seem to wrap your heads around, is the fact that we have no reason to move Bertuzzi, so someone would need to overpay to get him. Pay a king's ransom, or don't get him, that simple.

They don’t think with logic. Come on now
30 jui à 14 h 41
#7
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Quoting: KINGS67
They don’t think with logic. Come on now


A first round pick, a 2nd round pick, and a 3rd liner isnt logical for a rebuilding team?
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30 jui à 14 h 44
#8
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Nope.

The thing you Leafs fans can't seem to wrap your heads around, is the fact that we have no reason to move Bertuzzi, so someone would need to overpay to get him. Pay a king's ransom, or don't get him, that simple.


Um, you realize he played 9 games last year and has never eclipsed 50 points in a season (with average at best underlying numbers). If you don't think a 1st (Amriov), a 2nd and a 3rd liner (who scored at the same pace as Bertuzzi) in 2019-20 is enough then maybe and just maybe, Red Wings fans are just as delusional as us...
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30 jui à 14 h 46
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Quoting: will9739
Another dopey Bertuzzi trade... next.


He played 9 games last year and has never eclipsed 50 points in a season (with average at best underlying numbers).

If you don't think a 1st (Amriov), a 2nd and a 3rd liner (who scored at the same pace as Bertuzzi) in 2019-20 is enough then maybe and just maybe, Red Wings fans are just as delusional as us...
30 jui à 14 h 47
#10
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Detroit declines.


Why
30 jui à 14 h 48
#11
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Quoting: adamorimoli61
Why


Detroit does not have to trade Bertuzzi.

Bertuzzi have not asked for a trade.

Detroit have not put Bertuzzi on the block.

This is you trying to trade for a player Detroit doesn't want to lose.
30 jui à 14 h 49
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Detroit does not have to trade Bertuzzi.

Bertuzzi have not asked for a trade.

Detroit have not put Bertuzzi on the block.

This is you trying to trade for a player Detroit doesn't want to lose.


I didn't realize players had to be on the trade block for them to be moved! Very informative
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30 jui à 14 h 59
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Quoting: adamorimoli61
I didn't realize players had to be on the trade block for them to be moved! Very informative


Only players that have to be traded, i.e. that under no circumstances can be kept on the team will be traded for scraps like you've offered.

If you're trying to pry a player away from a team that doesn't want to lose him you have to overpay, and do so massively if the team you're trading with don't have a replacement lined up for the spot turning vacant.

Your offer, as it stands, is the equivalent to Detroit offering you Namestnikov + Niederbach + a 2nd for Matthews.

I really didn't think I would have to spell it out like to a 4-year old.
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30 jui à 14 h 59
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PlusMinus is stupid
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Quoting: adamorimoli61
Um, you realize he played 9 games last year and has never eclipsed 50 points in a season (with average at best underlying numbers). If you don't think a 1st (Amriov), a 2nd and a 3rd liner (who scored at the same pace as Bertuzzi) in 2019-20 is enough then maybe and just maybe, Red Wings fans are just as delusional as us...

How much clearer could I have been? Value is irrelevant. Overpay, or no trade.
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30 jui à 15 h 33
#15
Banni
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Good ol’ f*cking leafs fans they never go away
30 jui à 15 h 44
#16
Will9739
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Good ol’ f*cking leafs fans they never go away


And I thought that fans from K'bec were bad... geesh.
31 jui à 10 h 22
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Only players that have to be traded, i.e. that under no circumstances can be kept on the team will be traded for scraps like you've offered.

If you're trying to pry a player away from a team that doesn't want to lose him you have to overpay, and do so massively if the team you're trading with don't have a replacement lined up for the spot turning vacant.

Your offer, as it stands, is the equivalent to Detroit offering you Namestnikov + Niederbach + a 2nd for Matthews.

I really didn't think I would have to spell it out like to a 4-year old.


Call me a leaf homer, fine. Idgaf.

You are absolutely delusional, and its boarder line scary that people like you think you can just dump on leaf fans without looking in the mirror first.
31 jui à 10 h 24
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
How much clearer could I have been? Value is irrelevant. Overpay, or no trade.


I don't value a thing you have to say lmao. All your replies are some variation of "Detroit says no".
31 jui à 10 h 36
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PlusMinus is stupid
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Quoting: adamorimoli61
I don't value a thing you have to say lmao. All your replies are some variation of "Detroit says no".

Cool story bro.
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