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Proper Value for Eichel

Créé par: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
Date de création initiale: jui 30, 2021
Publié: 30 jui à 0 h 23
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Shesterkin, Igor85 000 000 $
Transactions
NYR
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
  2. Lafrenière, Alexis
  3. 2022 1e round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Severson, Damon
NJD
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
  2. 2022 2e round pick (STL)
Rachats de contrats
  • Henrik Lundqvist: 1 500 000 $
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
  • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
  • Anthony Deangelo: 383 334 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
NYR
NYR
WPG
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2024
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 066 468 $0 $2 050 000 $433 532 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Kreider, Chris
6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
NYR
Strome, Ryan
4 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Goodrow, Barclay
3 641 667 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 6
NYR
Chytil, Filip
2 300 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
NYR
Blais, Samuel
1 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Hunt, Dryden
762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
NYR
Reaves, Ryan
1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
NYR
Fox, Adam
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
NYR
Kinkaid, Keith
825 000 $
G
UFA - 1
NYR
Nemeth, Patrik
2 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
NJD
Severson, Damon
4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
NYR
Tinordi, Jarred
900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2

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30 jui à 0 h 30
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Sure it is
30 jui à 0 h 32
#2
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Sure it is


Better than most. Why would it be less? 1 is a franchise center and 2 others young players yet to show anything of similar value
30 jui à 0 h 33
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Quoting: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
Better than most. Why would it be less? 1 is a franchise center and 2 others young players yet to show anything of similar value


Well one of them alone has Eichel potential, and the other Reinhart potential, not to mention the 1st
30 jui à 0 h 35
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Well one of them alone has Eichel potential, and the other Reinhart potential, not to mention the 1st


Potential versus been there done that... Potentially they don't work so Buffalo beds both for the risk and that 1 st might be low pending how well Rangers do
30 jui à 0 h 49
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Quoting: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
Potential versus been there done that... Potentially they don't work so Buffalo beds both for the risk and that 1 st might be low pending how well Rangers do

Have you considered that potentially Eichel never plays again lmao
30 jui à 1 h 25
#6
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Quoting: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
Better than most. Why would it be less? 1 is a franchise center and 2 others young players yet to show anything of similar value


commend you on the trade but it won't happen. Drury is being smart about it and won't cough up valuable young assets for a player that may or may not need surgery. While that surgery can be done, it is super risky and can potentially not allow him to play anymore. I get it, he is a great player and would love to have a natural goal scorer on the team like him, but its not worth it. I would rather wait and gamble on the kids coming up than spend the picks and assets to get a player that may or may not be able to play again + 10mil will put a damper on the cap that will successfully delete Mika from the picture because Fox will get 9.5+
30 jui à 2 h 19
#7
LafnDoubleADoubleK
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Laf is a no go, so there goes that idea...
30 jui à 3 h 46
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Quoting: Alfie11
Have you considered that potentially Eichel never plays again lmao


Haha so no one makes the trade. Clearly teams don't see it as a huge issue because you wouldn't offer anything if you thought he would not play
30 jui à 3 h 48
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Quoting: DoubleADoubleK
Laf is a no go, so there goes that idea...


Then so does the thought of Rangers fans getting Eichel
30 jui à 8 h 12
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Quoting: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
Then so does the thought of Rangers fans getting Eichel


I guess you make that decision? I’ve never heard KA said LAF or nothing. How often do you and KA have meetings? The most recent offer on the table is Kravs, Chytil, Jones, Gauthier and a 1st. This is the best offer BUF has even received and now we are the only team that’s “IN” on Eichel.
30 jui à 8 h 23
#11
Tspky
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Quoting: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
Then so does the thought of Rangers fans getting Eichel


I love sabres fans like this. Don’t realize that they are gearing up for a ROR type trade. Not as bad but nowhere near eichel at full value. And you are right, rangers should add both laf kakko AND a first, when zegras, byfield, turcotte, drysdale, 3rd overall, Rossi, boldy, are ALL off the table by their teams (I’m rolling my eyes here btw if you don’t get sarcasm). Buffalo will eventually have to accept the best offer for eichel since he will not play another game with them. They don’t want that distraction in the locker room, and I doubt he agrees until surgery is performed. The longer they wait, the more of the season he will miss with surgery. At best it’s a 3 month recovery so even now he misses some time. This will lower his value even more.

Now that being said he should get some good prospects still, but you are looking at a Chytil/kravtsov, a Lundkvist, and a Jones/Robertson, georgiev and a 1st. There is still no team that would be willing to beat that as almost all have pulled out.
30 jui à 12 h 07
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Proper insanity. Rangers should forget Eichel exists.
30 jui à 13 h 03
#13
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Quoting: Spanky227
I love sabres fans like this. Don’t realize that they are gearing up for a ROR type trade. Not as bad but nowhere near eichel at full value. And you are right, rangers should add both laf kakko AND a first, when zegras, byfield, turcotte, drysdale, 3rd overall, Rossi, boldy, are ALL off the table by their teams (I’m rolling my eyes here btw if you don’t get sarcasm). Buffalo will eventually have to accept the best offer for eichel since he will not play another game with them. They don’t want that distraction in the locker room, and I doubt he agrees until surgery is performed. The longer they wait, the more of the season he will miss with surgery. At best it’s a 3 month recovery so even now he misses some time. This will lower his value even more.

Now that being said he should get some good prospects still, but you are looking at a Chytil/kravtsov, a Lundkvist, and a Jones/Robertson, georgiev and a 1st. There is still no team that would be willing to beat that as almost all have pulled out.


Eichel value will not fall further unless he plays like trash. I think LA doesn't need Eichel, Kopitar can handle his own so that's why you do not trade Byfield either.

Minnesota is effed for cap so idk how they make Eichel work but they shouldn't even consider it due to needing those small contracts over the long haul here.

Kakko looks like he won't be much more than a 3W based on current play. That may change. AL looked out of sorts and did nothing for the 1OA pick. If I'm buffalo that's what I want at minimum and I wouldn't take less.
30 jui à 13 h 06
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Quoting: NYR1983
I guess you make that decision? I’ve never heard KA said LAF or nothing. How often do you and KA have meetings? The most recent offer on the table is Kravs, Chytil, Jones, Gauthier and a 1st. This is the best offer BUF has even received and now we are the only team that’s “IN” on Eichel.


Just because it's the best offer doesn't mean you take it. By your analogy of I have a choice of filtered poo water and unfiltered poo water I should just drink the filtered because it's better than to look for something better
30 jui à 13 h 25
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Quoting: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
Just because it's the best offer doesn't mean you take it. By your analogy of I have a choice of filtered poo water and unfiltered poo water I should just drink the filtered because it's better than to look for something better


Oh you’re right, they don’t HAVE to take it. What do they do when he is doing why PLD did? Just play him 24mins a game? Bench him for 60+ games?
30 jui à 15 h 06
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Quoting: NYR1983
Oh you’re right, they don’t HAVE to take it. What do they do when he is doing why PLD did? Just play him 24mins a game? Bench him for 60+ games?


Haha he might not even play this hear. Whatever let him sit for Tl5 years ... Someone will pay more of he is productive. It won't happen for the Rangers so just level it alone. Your team will be a middle of the road for the next 10 years
30 jui à 17 h 12
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Quoting: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
Haha he might not even play this hear. Whatever let him sit for Tl5 years ... Someone will pay more of he is productive. It won't happen for the Rangers so just level it alone. Your team will be a middle of the road for the next 10 years


We were a middle of the road team while rebuilding🤣🤣 nice hot take pal
31 jui à 13 h 51
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Quoting: NYR1983
We were a middle of the road team while rebuilding🤣🤣 nice hot take pal


And will be "rebuilding" for a long time to come....
31 jui à 14 h 38
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Quoting: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
And will be "rebuilding" for a long time to come....



Hahaha we are done the rebuild. Now you guys on the other hand haven’t left the bottom and you think JE is a difference maker. Getting him is the only way for us to be elite?! Hahahaha
31 jui à 15 h 29
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Quoting: NYR1983
Hahaha we are done the rebuild. Now you guys on the other hand haven’t left the bottom and you think JE is a difference maker. Getting him is the only way for us to be elite?! Hahahaha


Too many bad contracts so ok. Good luck signing Fox and everyone else next year
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31 jui à 16 h 20
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Quoting: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
Too many bad contracts so ok. Good luck signing Fox and everyone else next year


Won’t be a problem. I look forward to it
 
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