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29 juill. 2021 à 12 h 24
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I think you'd have to from an avs perspective
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29 juill. 2021 à 12 h 27
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No I dont think so, avs need their 2C in kadri more than a 2nd line winger.
They could sign Tatar and have offered Saad a contract now with their cap space.

Drouin doesnt many any sense
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29 juill. 2021 à 12 h 29
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I'd happily trade Kadri to the Habs but that deal doesn't really work for the Avs.
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29 juill. 2021 à 12 h 30
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No I dont think so, avs need their 2C in kadri more than a 2nd line winger.
They could sign Tatar and have offered Saad a contract now with their cap space.

Drouin doesnt many any sense


I agree we need a 2C but i think we could use the assets acquired here to find a new 2C. a 2nd and poehlings a good start to probily pry hertl from san jose with a couple other peices added without having to add our top prospects
29 juill. 2021 à 12 h 33
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I agree we need a 2C but i think we could use the assets acquired here to find a new 2C. a 2nd and poehlings a good start to probily pry hertl from san jose with a couple other peices added without having to add our top prospects


I think that ship sailed when we overpaid for Kuemper
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29 juill. 2021 à 12 h 34
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I agree we need a 2C but i think we could use the assets acquired here to find a new 2C. a 2nd and poehlings a good start to probily pry hertl from san jose with a couple other peices added without having to add our top prospects


who is giving up a 2C that easily right now? Its easy to say that, but teams who have a legit 2C arent trading them. How hard was it for the Avs to find one in Kadri.
why create a hole in your roster that you have to go and try to fill instantly.
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29 juill. 2021 à 12 h 39
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who is giving up a 2C that easily right now? Its easy to say that, but teams who have a legit 2C arent trading them. How hard was it for the Avs to find one in Kadri.
why create a hole in your roster that you have to go and try to fill instantly.


I mean i don't think it was that hard to find kadri, or even aquire him. Kadri is leaving next season anyways so we're getting a bunch for a guy who's going for nothing at the years end
29 juill. 2021 à 12 h 40
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I think that ship sailed when we overpaid for Kuemper


Yeah they took advantage of our desperation of not having a starter, that trade should have been made before free agency started
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29 juill. 2021 à 12 h 45
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I mean i don't think it was that hard to find kadri, or even aquire him. Kadri is leaving next season anyways so we're getting a bunch for a guy who's going for nothing at the years end


so what is your plan for a 2C, you mentioned Hertl but he has a 3team trade list....so you have to get the Sharks to make him waive, thats if he was available or if the sharks are wanting to blow up their roster.
In the pacific, who knows they could grind out a playoff spot its that weak.

I think its a lot more difficult to adding a 2c than you think
29 juill. 2021 à 12 h 53
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so what is your plan for a 2C, you mentioned Hertl but he has a 3team trade list....so you have to get the Sharks to make him waive, thats if he was available or if the sharks are wanting to blow up their roster.
In the pacific, who knows they could grind out a playoff spot its that weak.

I think its a lot more difficult to adding a 2c than you think


Theres been so much movement i think it's easier than you think. Columbus is pretty much heading to a rebuild, Domi isn't longed for there. If we needed one asap after this trade we could get him. He's pretty much the same player as kadri. Hertl was a more expensive option, if calgary falls out of the playoff picture again maybe a monahan trade, with solid wings strome can produce i think between burky and druoin he'd be a fine 2C. Theres lots of players out there who are just as good as kadri if not better, all depends how we'd go. We've literally made it just as far without a 2C as we have with one so i don't know if kadri is our answer to all problems
29 juill. 2021 à 13 h 6
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I would love to see Kadri in MTL especially against The Leafs... scream
29 juill. 2021 à 13 h 14
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Theres been so much movement i think it's easier than you think. Columbus is pretty much heading to a rebuild, Domi isn't longed for there. If we needed one asap after this trade we could get him. He's pretty much the same player as kadri. Hertl was a more expensive option, if calgary falls out of the playoff picture again maybe a monahan trade, with solid wings strome can produce i think between burky and druoin he'd be a fine 2C. Theres lots of players out there who are just as good as kadri if not better, all depends how we'd go. We've literally made it just as far without a 2C as we have with one so i don't know if kadri is our answer to all problems


Domi isnt good at C, he wants to be one but hes a downgrade over Kadri..plus if Domi Drouin worked, they would be both in montreal righ tnow. also he is injured, will miss the start of the season.
monahan would cost a lot to get, way more than a 2nd and Poehling to flip. Plus wiht his cap hit, avs would have to move serious cap off their roster

Its easier to get a 2LW than a 2C, why make a problem you dont need to solve
29 juill. 2021 à 13 h 18
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Domi isnt good at C, he wants to be one but hes a downgrade over Kadri..plus if Domi Drouin worked, they would be both in montreal righ tnow. also he is injured, will miss the start of the season.
monahan would cost a lot to get, way more than a 2nd and Poehling to flip. Plus wiht his cap hit, avs would have to move serious cap off their roster

Its easier to get a 2LW than a 2C, why make a problem you dont need to solve


i mean did you watch kadri at all last year? half way through the season it was like he was playing with a ball and chain attached to his legs out there. I don't think you can say any of the names i mentioned are worse than him after that. And after his little stunt in playoffs we literally didn't have a 2C for round 2, i think those two cases show that we do have a problem with or without him. Newhook will be just as effective at 2C as he will be this year
29 juill. 2021 à 13 h 20
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i mean did you watch kadri at all last year? half way through the season it was like he was playing with a ball and chain attached to his legs out there. I don't think you can say any of the names i mentioned are worse than him after that. And after his little stunt in playoffs we literally didn't have a 2C for round 2, i think those two cases show that we do have a problem with or without him. Newhook will be just as effective at 2C as he will be this year


he was on what a 50 point pace still....thats a 2C production. Dont move the best option you have for 2C...especially for a guy like Drouin who is plagued with inconsistency and effort issues. You mention kadri dropping off, you will hate Drouin and his disappearing act as well.

kadri is not a perfect 2c but he is sitll one and the avs best option right now. Thinking you can just get a 2c easily without paying out the nose, I think thats just a bit too naïve
29 juill. 2021 à 13 h 25
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he was on what a 50 point pace still....thats a 2C production. Dont move the best option you have for 2C...especially for a guy like Drouin who is plagued with inconsistency and effort issues. You mention kadri dropping off, you will hate Drouin and his disappearing act as well.


I mean you've made the point that 2C is more valuable than wing and i agree but then that comes along with when the 2C is inconsistent its more of an issue that it is with a 2W. I think you'd still go with this trade and gamble on another 2C getting a boost coming to a cup favorite
29 juill. 2021 à 13 h 28
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But MTL doesn't want Kadri, I hope.

After loosing lleadership (Weber,Danault, Perry, Staal) adding meh "veterans" (Wideman and Hoffman), the last thing Habs need is Kadri. Good way to have a short post season.

IMO, better play Poehling.

Also, might be mixed up, but Washington dont need capspace and already traded away Dillon.
29 juill. 2021 à 13 h 29
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I mean you've made the point that 2C is more valuable than wing and i agree but then that comes along with when the 2C is inconsistent its more of an issue that it is with a 2W. I think you'd still go with this trade and gamble on another 2C getting a boost coming to a cup favorite


I just dont know what that 2C option is that is that easy to acquire that boosts the Avs chances like that. Its such a gamble. Avs are gambling enough with the Kuemper deal. Its just my personal feelings but I would rather keep the safer option in the Top 6 right now in keeping Kadri vs making 2 trades to try to boost the 2nd line
29 juill. 2021 à 13 h 37
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I just dont know what that 2C option is that is that easy to acquire that boosts the Avs chances like that. Its such a gamble. Avs are gambling enough with the Kuemper deal. Its just my personal feelings but I would rather keep the safer option in the Top 6 right now in keeping Kadri vs making 2 trades to try to boost the 2nd line


Yeah that's understandable. We definitely got desperate on the kuemper trade a bit, but if he signs a decent deal for next year, pretty much his same contract now it isn't so bad. I think newhook will be running 2C by the end of the season anyways so it could all work out without having to bring in a new 2C
29 juill. 2021 à 13 h 40
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Yeah that's understandable. We definitely got desperate on the kuemper trade a bit, but if he signs a decent deal for next year, pretty much his same contract now it isn't so bad. I think newhook will be running 2C by the end of the season anyways so it could all work out without having to bring in a new 2C


Newhook is the 2C in waiting, that is his spot going forward, no arguing that. Boston doestn have cap space right now and Krejci is still out there waiting to sign back...but if avs could snag him..then yes I can see moving Kadri a very easy move.

I know its a bit of a circle conversation but if the 2C replacement move was already in place, avs do the drouin deal all day long.

I just think Avs sign Tatar and roll into the season with that mix, but who knows we all thought the Avs were done after Day 1 last year and then pull off the toews deal a few days later
29 juill. 2021 à 13 h 43
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Newhook is the 2C in waiting, that is his spot going forward, no arguing that. Boston doestn have cap space right now and Krejci is still out there waiting to sign back...but if avs could snag him..then yes I can see moving Kadri a very easy move.

I know its a bit of a circle conversation but if the 2C replacement move was already in place, avs do the drouin deal all day long.

I just think Avs sign Tatar and roll into the season with that mix, but who knows we all thought the Avs were done after Day 1 last year and then pull off the toews deal a few days later


if we could land tatar on a 1 year make or break deal that would be excellent, his value has really dropped after being a healthy in playoffs. I'd be fine with krejci as well. With good wingers he can still produce lots. Between burky and tatar that would be a solid line 2
29 juill. 2021 à 13 h 45
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if we could land tatar on a 1 year make or break deal that would be excellent, his value has really dropped after being a healthy in playoffs. I'd be fine with krejci as well. With good wingers he can still produce lots. Between burky and tatar that would be a solid line 2


Tatar, Kase, or Nick Ritchie...any of those 3 on the 1 year under 2m aav type deals to fillout the middle 6 I am ok with that type of gamble. Its the easier option and if they can get 1 of them, then they can explore the compher trade market to bulk up the 3rd pairing or another middle 6 fwd.

Palmieri might have a deal in NYI but notihng is announced, so who knows. He would also be a good short term candidate
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