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No Move Clauses are Waived

Créé par: HOCKEYBOY448
Date de création initiale: 29 juill. 2021
Publié: 29 juill. 2021
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Explications
Pretty much going all in on youth down the middle, bolstered by solid depth on the wings. Clearly we’ve seen NMC can be waived which is assumed here with retention to create room. I don’t really care about the return hence future considerations, but at $3.65 mil Kreider is worth something and same with Trouba at $4.25 mil. Just curious to see how the lines might look in a few years if we don’t keep Mika or go after Eichel. Call me crazy but I really like the Korczak pick and praying he becomes something special in a few years. It’s still pretty tight the following years if the cap continues to stay flat at $81.5 mil. Let me know what you think.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Othmann, Brennan3925 000 $
Korczak, Ryder3925 000 $
Grubbe, Jayden3925 000 $
Garand, Dylan3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Shesterkin, Igor46 125 000 $
Fox, Adam79 625 000 $
Miller, K'Andre44 625 000 $
Kakko, Kaapo22 625 000 $
Kravtsov, Vitali22 325 000 $
Gauthier, Julien31 825 000 $
Blais, Samuel32 125 000 $
Hájek, Libor1825 000 $
Lafrenière, Alexis36 125 000 $
Barron, Morgan21 975 000 $
Chytil, Filip44 125 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Hunt, Dryden1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. 2023 3e round pick (EDM)
  2. 2024 4e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]
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NYR
  1. Dvorak, Christian
ARI
  1. Jones, Zachary [Droits de RFA]
  2. Cuylle, Will
  3. 2022 1e round pick (NYR)
  4. 2022 2e round pick (NYR)
3.
NYR
    Future Considerations
    DET
    1. Trouba, Jacob (3 750 000 $ retained)
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    NYR
      Future Considerations
      BOS
      1. Kreider, Chris (2 850 000 $ retained)
      Rachats de contrats
      • Brad Richards: 0 $
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      • Jacob Trouba: 3 750 000 $ (46.88%)
      • Chris Kreider: 2 850 000 $ (43.85%)
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      Lafrenière, Alexis
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      Dvorak, Christian
      4 450 000 $
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      Kakko, Kaapo
      2 625 000 $
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      Panarin, Artemi
      11 642 857 $
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      Chytil, Filip
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      2 325 000 $
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      Goodrow, Barclay
      3 641 667 $
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      Korczak, Ryder
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      Gauthier, Julien
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      Fox, Adam
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      Shesterkin, Igor
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      Miller, K'Andre
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      Lundkvist, Nils
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      29 juill. 2021 à 1 h 25
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      DET and BOS take that and run.
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      29 juill. 2021 à 1 h 29
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      Detroit accepts and we'll figure out our glut of RHD later.
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      29 juill. 2021 à 1 h 31
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      Quoting: Im_islesforthecup
      DET and BOS take that and run.


      I mean I’d hope so. Obviously in a real trade with that kind of retention we’d get something back, but for the purpose of this, I’m just trying to get a sense of our future cap situation.
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      29 juill. 2021 à 1 h 33
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      I mean I’d hope so. Obviously in a real trade with that kind of retention we’d get something back, but for the purpose of this, I’m just trying to get a sense of our future cap situation.


      Ahh i got it bc usually youre values are pretty good and im like no return for kreider ~@3.75, that doesnt make sense.
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      29 juill. 2021 à 1 h 36
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      Ahh i got it bc usually youre values are pretty good and im like no return for kreider ~@3.75, that doesnt make sense.


      Yeah it’s just tough with the flat cap and all the young guys to resign cause I’d love to keep Mika, Kreids and Trouba long term but tough decisions lie ahead. Plus this organization doesn’t shy away from making big trades or buyouts so anything is on the table in all honesty.
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      29 juill. 2021 à 2 h 57
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      Quoting: Im_islesforthecup
      DET and BOS take that and run.


      Except Boston currently has just over $1 million in cap space and don't need another left shot winger
      29 juill. 2021 à 3 h 2
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      Except Boston currently has just over $1 million in cap space and don't need another left shot winger


      It doesnt make a difference. When youre offered a deal like this you take it and figure out the logistics later. Kreider and debrusk would be have the exact same cap hit. So you can move debrusk, plus you get a net front guy on the pp.
      29 juill. 2021 à 5 h 21
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      Quoting: Im_islesforthecup
      It doesnt make a difference. When youre offered a deal like this you take it and figure out the logistics later. Kreider and debrusk would be have the exact same cap hit. So you can move debrusk, plus you get a net front guy on the pp.


      And DeBrusk is more than likely on the move once Krejci re-signs.
      29 juill. 2021 à 6 h 5
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      And DeBrusk is more than likely on the move once Krejci re-signs.


      Ok. My point is when you get offered a deal at that value you take it and figure out logistics some other time.
      29 juill. 2021 à 7 h 48
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      Ok. My point is when you get offered a deal at that value you take it and figure out logistics some other time.


      Well Boston would be over the cap without any logical pieces to move put and honestly they'd have no where to put Kreider. Guys signed for 6yrs more and OP is giving him with retention sarcasm
      29 juill. 2021 à 8 h 10
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      Well Boston would be over the cap without any logical pieces to move put and honestly they'd have no where to put Kreider. Guys signed for 6yrs more and OP is giving him with retention sarcasm


      Its true. Rn there isnt any open spot for him, but i feel like if this was offered to sweeney, how does he turn it down. Thats just negligence.
      29 juill. 2021 à 8 h 24
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      Its true. Rn there isnt any open spot for him, but i feel like if this was offered to sweeney, how does he turn it down. Thats just negligence.


      Pretty easy. Let say Boston trades DeBrusk for futures and brings in Kreider for the amount above for nothing. Boston would have about $2.8 million to re-sign Krejci, which isn't enough.
      29 juill. 2021 à 8 h 31
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      Quoting: ON3M4N
      Pretty easy. Let say Boston trades DeBrusk for futures and brings in Kreider for the amount above for nothing. Boston would have about $2.8 million to re-sign Krejci, which isn't enough.


      Agreed. But that value is crazy. Youd have the perfection line, hall-?(krejci)-smith, kreider-coyle/haula-coyle/foligno. Youd have 4 3rd liners amd 1 of them doesnt have a spot. Rn if you trade debrusk youre good and if you get kreider youd have to move 1 of foligno, coyle, or haula. Moving a fa that qas just signed isnt ideal in any way but it does make your team better. Anyway this is all hypothetical bc kreider isnt waiving and drury would never offer this. (Its also funny that the 1 team that has a logjam is the one he was traded to lol).
      29 juill. 2021 à 8 h 53
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      Agreed. But that value is crazy. Youd have the perfection line, hall-?(krejci)-smith, kreider-coyle/haula-coyle/foligno. Youd have 4 3rd liners amd 1 of them doesnt have a spot. Rn if you trade debrusk youre good and if you get kreider youd have to move 1 of foligno, coyle, or haula. Moving a fa that qas just signed isnt ideal in any way but it does make your team better. Anyway this is all hypothetical bc kreider isnt waiving and drury would never offer this. (Its also funny that the 1 team that has a logjam is the one he was traded to lol).


      If your trade just DeBrusk you're still not good. Coyle has a NTC and you're paying to get rid of his contract right now after the year he had. As you said it also is not ideal (and it would make the franchise look awful to future UFA's) to trade a guy they just signed yesterday.
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      29 juill. 2021 à 9 h 4
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      If your trade just DeBrusk you're still not good. Coyle has a NTC and you're paying to get rid of his contract right now after the year he had. As you said it also is not ideal (and it would make the franchise look awful to future UFA's) to trade a guy they just signed yesterday.


      I mean moore could be moved also. But yeah this doesnt happen irl. Maybe they talk to foligno and work out a deal to send him to MIN to play with his brother (so it wont look so bad). Either way i was getting real scared about this team, but if they dont move jake and have hall-coyle-smith and JD-EH-NF they wont be as scary. You better hope sweeney can admit his 2015 mistake and move on.
      29 juill. 2021 à 9 h 49
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      Quoting: ON3M4N
      Except Boston currently has just over $1 million in cap space and don't need another left shot winger


      My guy this is in 2 years, when you have plenty of cap space. I literally looked at the team’s cap picture before making the deal.
      29 juill. 2021 à 9 h 59
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      My guy this is in 2 years, when you have plenty of cap space. I literally looked at the team’s cap picture before making the deal.


      My guy there are a lot of factors that you can't even begin to take into consideration 2yr from now, but what I do know is that Pasta will need a new deal, as will McAvoy. Bergeron may return or retire, but either way you'll need to spend some money to bring in a replacement for Bergeron. The cap space can get eaten up real quick and Kreider at 32yr old with the style he plays will be on the decline, which makes it even worse.
      29 juill. 2021 à 10 h 3
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      My guy there are a lot of factors that you can't even begin to take into consideration 2yr from now, but what I do know is that Pasta will need a new deal, as will McAvoy. Bergeron may return or retire, but either way you'll need to spend some money to bring in a replacement for Bergeron. The cap space can get eaten up real quick and Kreider at 32yr old with the style he plays will be on the decline, which makes it even worse.


      I figured you’d mention Pasta and McAvoy who combined on their next deals I doubt make more than $24 mil. Leaves you about $19-20 mil with Kreider to sign a top center and fill out the rest of the roster. These are flat cap numbers (meaning cap stays at $81.5 mil).
      29 juill. 2021 à 11 h 28
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      I figured you’d mention Pasta and McAvoy who combined on their next deals I doubt make more than $24 mil. Leaves you about $19-20 mil with Kreider to sign a top center and fill out the rest of the roster. These are flat cap numbers (meaning cap stays at $81.5 mil).


      And Bergeron needs a new deal or you need his replacement which won't be cheap. Again cap gets eaten quickly.
       
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