Modifié 29 juill. 2021 à 10 h 55
Ok so first if you want to bring andy greene into things, that was a special circumstance as pelech was out for the season and we desperately needed a defensive LHD.
As for the difference in return i said they were similar not the same but either way youre asking for a kings ransom for a 4th liner. You want for a 4th line rental a 2nd round pick plus a prospect picked in the 2nd round a week ago that has a really high ceiling. The islanders counter with cal clurltterbuck for 2 2nds (not interested in doan). Thats literally what youre telling me to pay. Youre out of your mind if you think thats fair.
As for not judging everything by points, thay was the wrong direction to go for you. Paul a top pker, well ill take jg over him on the pk, and the pp, and even strength by a long shot.
I love how you think since we havent won the cup we are gonna massively overpay for someone. Why dont you trade paul to COL for byram and newhook, bc they obviously need him bc they cant get past the 2nd round. Thats literally your logic.
Its actually funny bc i did an acgm where i signed paul (it was a 22-23) and i do like him as a player. But if you think you get anywhere close to this youre delusional.
And when you say the islanders dont value raty as highly as me you have no idea about that. In fact lamoriello said (and im paraphrasing) "i thought there was no way he'd still be there at 52". That means he felt hed go significantly earlier than 52.
If Andy Greene is a "special circumstance", then I guess that makes Nick Paul a glorious opportunity.
I'm not asking for a king's ransom for Nick Paul if worse players got similar returns for teams that were trading them.
I'm not "out of my mind" for trying to illustrate what a trade for Nick Paul might look like.
I do think you shouldn't judge everything by point production and I stand by that point.
I'm not the one painting the return for Pageau as the same as the return for Paul in this post.
A steep payment at the trade deadline for a shot at winning the cup happens all the time.
It's not my logic that Paul should be traded to Colorado for Byram and Newhook.
That's you putting words in my mouth.
Also, if you think Raty + a late 2nd = Byram + Newhook, then Barzal + a late 2nd = McDavid + Broberg.
If there was anything delusional, this would be it.
If the Islanders really wanted Raty, they wouldn't have allowed over 50 draft picks to pass by.
They would have traded up to get him or traded an asset to get him at an earlier pick.
Instead, they just went with Best Player Available at 52.
That's a sign that the Islanders don't value Raty like a 1st round pick, as you're doing right now.
Whenever a Coach or GM is proud of a certain player becoming a member of the team, they tend to grossly exaggerate what they say in public.
After Pageau's very 1st game as a New York Islander, Barry Trotz said that the picks that were sent to Ottawa for Pageau are worth nothing.
If that's the case, why doesn't Trotz ask Lamoriello to spend 2 seconds on future considerations?
I take whatever someone with the Senators says publicly with a huge grain of salt.
You'd be better served if you did the same thing with the Islanders.