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Créé par: Ed_
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 27 juill. 2021
Publié: 27 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
64 570 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
22 750 000 $
21 000 000 $
2825 000 $
42 250 000 $
Transactions
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TOR
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler [Droits de RFA]
DET
  1. Amirov, Rodion
  2. Anderson, Joey
  3. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
4.
TOR
  1. Carlsson, Gabriel
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
5.
TOR
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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Logo de CHI
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $80 378 117 $0 $0 $1 121 883 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 570 000 $4 570 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 3
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 1
825 000 $825 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AD
UFA - 1

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27 juill. 2021 à 5 h 22
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No thanks, Bert is worth more to Detroit.
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27 juill. 2021 à 6 h 8
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
No thanks, Bert is worth more to Detroit.


Worth more??? Wow!!! One Tier 2, two Tier 3 Prospects AND a first and a second... It would not surprise me, if this is could end up to be the return for an Eichel Trade. And with all my love to Bertuzzi: he is not THAT good.
27 juill. 2021 à 7 h 10
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Quoting: Joronto
Worth more??? Wow!!! One Tier 2, two Tier 3 Prospects AND a first and a second... It would not surprise me, if this is could end up to be the return for an Eichel Trade. And with all my love to Bertuzzi: he is not THAT good.


It's not so much how many you have it's more the quality, like you said one teir 2 prospect. Would rather leave the teir 3 prospects and the teir 2 and get a teir 1 guy. That's what I think he's getting at, we have alot of B and C level guys in the system, maybe not alot alot but enough. We are lacking the high end prospects other than Raymond Sieder and Edvinsson. You could probably drop two of those guys maybe even all 3, put Robertson in and it's a better deal.
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27 juill. 2021 à 7 h 31
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Worth more??? Wow!!! One Tier 2, two Tier 3 Prospects AND a first and a second... It would not surprise me, if this is could end up to be the return for an Eichel Trade. And with all my love to Bertuzzi: he is not THAT good.


What would you say if I offered you Namestnikov, Newpower, Niederbach, 2023 2nd and 2024 3rd for Nylander?
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27 juill. 2021 à 7 h 44
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Quoting: Joronto
Worth more??? Wow!!! One Tier 2, two Tier 3 Prospects AND a first and a second... It would not surprise me, if this is could end up to be the return for an Eichel Trade. And with all my love to Bertuzzi: he is not THAT good.


I'm not sure it's necesserily more value per se. Fewer better assets would be better. The 1st is great, and imo necessary, then I would just want 1 great prospect.
Detroit's need is quality not quantity. If you look at the draft just gone every pick was a wild swing for the fences, we have plenty of bottom/middle 6 forwards, plenty of bottom 4 D, we need either 1 star, or ~2 more VERY good players to form a top line and top pair. 1st + Toronto's best forward prospect would be appropriate.
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27 juill. 2021 à 7 h 49
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
It's not so much how many you have it's more the quality, like you said one teir 2 prospect. Would rather leave the teir 3 prospects and the teir 2 and get a teir 1 guy. That's what I think he's getting at, we have alot of B and C level guys in the system, maybe not alot alot but enough. We are lacking the high end prospects other than Raymond Sieder and Edvinsson. You could probably drop two of those guys maybe even all 3, put Robertson in and it's a better deal.


Already clear with the quality. Tier 2 in this case is premium!!!
TIER 1 only is drafted once in a while. It is Matthews / McDavid caliber. This type of player plus a first and a second is hilarious.

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What would you say if I offered you Namestnikov, Newpower, Niederbach, 2023 2nd and 2024 3rd for Nylander?


I would say: that are a a lot of names starting with N. 😅 And there is no first rounder included, also Nylander has term left, Bert is a RFA. So I can't take this comparison seriously.
27 juill. 2021 à 9 h 3
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I'm not sure it's necesserily more value per se. Fewer better assets would be better. The 1st is great, and imo necessary, then I would just want 1 great prospect.
Detroit's need is quality not quantity. If you look at the draft just gone every pick was a wild swing for the fences, we have plenty of bottom/middle 6 forwards, plenty of bottom 4 D, we need either 1 star, or ~2 more VERY good players to form a top line and top pair. 1st + Toronto's best forward prospect would be appropriate.


i feel like bertuzzi is not a good enough player for this to be the ask. sam reinhart just got a first and a so-so goalie prospect, and i'd pick him over bertuzzi ten times out of ten. buchnevich got a second and a bottom six player, and i'd pick him over bertuzzi as well. this ask is strange given the market for forwards/wingers rn.
27 juill. 2021 à 9 h 19
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Quoting: bagelbob
i feel like bertuzzi is not a good enough player for this to be the ask. sam reinhart just got a first and a so-so goalie prospect, and i'd pick him over bertuzzi ten times out of ten. buchnevich got a second and a bottom six player, and i'd pick him over bertuzzi as well. this ask is strange given the market for forwards/wingers rn.

But you're missing the point, those guys wanted to be traded and the organizations had to move them... Detroit doesn't want to or have to move Bertuzzi, nor does Bertuzzi want to be moved, so there is no reason for Detroit to even take "market value" - overpay, or no trade.
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27 juill. 2021 à 20 h 10
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The GM can just trade you to Arizona or Buffalo for a 5th N a Bag of Hockey Pucks instead if the player doesn't accept the trade then.
Use the extra Cap 2 sign Saad INSTEAD!
 
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