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eichel - ready to pay

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Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 25 juill. 2021
Publié: 25 juill. 2021
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Price has proven that he has what it takes to win a cup so we're going all-in for next 3 years with this core, than we start a major rebuilt .
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25 juill. 2021 à 1 h 7
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Dude, have you seen Cole Caufield play? And with the extra $9 million in cap space, I wouldn’t trade Caufield for Eichel straight up.
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25 juill. 2021 à 1 h 21
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Dude, have you seen Cole Caufield play? And with the extra $9 million in cap space, I wouldn’t trade Caufield for Eichel straight up.

You have a point about the cap space and i took that in consideration. It's a question of timing. My guess is Caufield will be 80% of Eichel in a few years (He will cost 7$M maybe then). But I'd like the habs to take a shot at the cup NOW while Price is hot !

Also, if Danault is leaving we are in a deep need for a center

Eichel and Suzuki at the center line, that's a contender centerline !!!
25 juill. 2021 à 1 h 26
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I do not think MTL has the pieces to acquire Eichel. It would require this, but Suzuki and Caufield should be untouchable to them.
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25 juill. 2021 à 1 h 55
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I do not think MTL has the pieces to acquire Eichel. It would require this, but Suzuki and Caufield should be untouchable to them.


Eichel scored more points as an 18 year old rookie on a crap roster than Suzuki's had in his entire career with a playoff roster. The two are not in the same stratosphere of player. Give me a break with this garbage
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25 juill. 2021 à 2 h 2
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Dude, have you seen Cole Caufield play? And with the extra $9 million in cap space, I wouldn’t trade Caufield for Eichel straight up.


Dude....
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This is much better imo. Still not positive I do it but it's certainly an upgrade over a lot of proposals
25 juill. 2021 à 2 h 16
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Dude, have you seen Cole Caufield play? And with the extra $9 million in cap space, I wouldn’t trade Caufield for Eichel straight up.


Dude, have you seen Jack Eichel play?
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25 juill. 2021 à 2 h 37
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Eichel scored more points as an 18 year old rookie on a crap roster than Suzuki's had in his entire career with a playoff roster. The two are not in the same stratosphere of player. Give me a break with this garbage


So you’re gonna take the approach that Eichel is better than Suzuki, which is obvious. Not even a relevant take. You clearly have no consideration for what the other team values for their future. Kotkaniemi should be expendable to them but Suzuki and Caufield are too important to them. Romanov is too important to them too. After them, their assets aren’t great, which is why I said they didn’t have enough expendable pieces to acquire Eichel.
25 juill. 2021 à 7 h 36
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Quoting: Elevatorboy
Eichel scored more points as an 18 year old rookie on a crap roster than Suzuki's had in his entire career with a playoff roster. The two are not in the same stratosphere of player. Give me a break with this garbage


If eichel was 100% healthy then I see your point. Eichel is an outstanding talent but can't stay healthy and has a serious neck injury. The risk is to high to deal a sniper like caufield for him. Adam's is probably asking for Suzuki, caufield and Romanov, just like he wants lafrienare, zegras and Byfield, rossi. A healthy Eichel gets them and more from teams, but he is not
25 juill. 2021 à 10 h 9
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Dude....


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Dude, have you seen Jack Eichel play?


Jack Eichel is not 10 times better than Cole Caufield. The team is much better off using that $9 million filling needs in free agency, and they’ll have Cole Caufield at cheap for 2 years. Cole Caufield was the 2nd best offensive forward on a run to the cup finals after 10 regular season games at age 20. He’s already the best playmaker on the team. This isn’t some prospect who hasn’t proved anything at the NHL level.
25 juill. 2021 à 10 h 36
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Quoting: Forbesy
If eichel was 100% healthy then I see your point. Eichel is an outstanding talent but can't stay healthy and has a serious neck injury. The risk is to high to deal a sniper like caufield for him. Adam's is probably asking for Suzuki, caufield and Romanov, just like he wants lafrienare, zegras and Byfield, rossi. A healthy Eichel gets them and more from teams, but he is not


What do you mean he can’t stay healthy? He’s been healthy his entire career until his recent injury. How do you know it’s serious? I deal with people with neck injuries for a living, and I rarely, if ever, see one that is that serious.
25 juill. 2021 à 10 h 39
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So you’re gonna take the approach that Eichel is better than Suzuki, which is obvious. Not even a relevant take. You clearly have no consideration for what the other team values for their future. Kotkaniemi should be expendable to them but Suzuki and Caufield are too important to them. Romanov is too important to them too. After them, their assets aren’t great, which is why I said they didn’t have enough expendable pieces to acquire Eichel.


I’m sorry but that makes no sense. Suzuki is more valuable than Eichel? That’s like saying you can’t trade in your mustang for a Ferrari because the mustang is too valuable to you.
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25 juill. 2021 à 10 h 41
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Jack Eichel is not 10 times better than Cole Caufield. The team is much better off using that $9 million filling needs in free agency, and they’ll have Cole Caufield at cheap for 2 years. Cole Caufield was the 2nd best offensive forward on a run to the cup finals after 10 regular season games at age 20. He’s already the best playmaker on the team. This isn’t some prospect who hasn’t proved anything at the NHL level.


I don't see Montreal getting back with how they are currently constructed. You are going to have to pay Caufield relatively soon so I don't really know why that's relevant and Center is a more valuable position.
25 juill. 2021 à 11 h 32
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Quoting: JokiStan
I don't see Montreal getting back with how they are currently constructed. You are going to have to pay Caufield relatively soon so I don't really know why that's relevant and Center is a more valuable position.


Well of course they can’t get back as currently constructed. They have $21.9 million in cap space that they need to use to replace two massive holes in Weber and Danault. But once they do, yes, Caufield’s ELC is relevant because that’s 2 seasons with a much better shot at winning. And centre is a more valuable position, but the habs made the cup finals without a centre on pace for more than 60 points this year. Just because the “value is fair” doesn’t mean the habs want to do it. If teams were willing to give up the quality of player of a Caufield/Zegras/Byfield, then Eichel would be gone already.
25 juill. 2021 à 11 h 35
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I’m sorry but that makes no sense. Suzuki is more valuable than Eichel? That’s like saying you can’t trade in your mustang for a Ferrari because the mustang is too valuable to you.


Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. I didn’t at all say Suzuki was more valuable. I actually said the opposite and that it was obvious.
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Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. I didn’t at all say Suzuki was more valuable. I actually said the opposite and that it was obvious.


You said Suzuki it “too important to their future” and you are not wanting to include him in a trade for Eichel. That means you are valuing him more than Eichel….. obviously.
25 juill. 2021 à 11 h 40
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You said Suzuki it “too important to their future” and you are not wanting to include him in a trade for Eichel. That means you are valuing him more than Eichel….. obviously.


No, that’s not at all what I said or implied.
25 juill. 2021 à 11 h 49
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No, that’s not at all what I said or implied.


Then how do you explain that you literally said that and I quoted it lol 😂
25 juill. 2021 à 12 h 10
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Quoting: Elevatorboy
Then how do you explain that you literally said that and I quoted it lol 😂


“Too important to them” ≠ “more valuable”

There are some players that are just too important to a team’s vision going forward and to the fanbase as well. Don’t really care to continue to argue with you about it.
25 juill. 2021 à 14 h 9
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Quoting: Elevatorboy
What do you mean he can’t stay healthy? He’s been healthy his entire career until his recent injury. How do you know it’s serious? I deal with people with neck injuries for a living, and I rarely, if ever, see one that is that serious.


You can't say he is healthy anymore then I can say he is hurt. My point is the risk of me being right is far to great to empty a teams top prospects for him, and he's only played 75+ games twice since 2015, and never had to endure a deep playoff run. Let's be honest here, if he was healthy then he'd already be wearing a rangers or kings sweater. No one was outbidding either of them, but alas, here we are.
 
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