you guys got robbed. no offense.

Risto is underrated, I cant wait till he shows up this year in Philly and proves himself

you didn't need to say no offense. I don't take offense to people point out how dumb our GM just was. I am cool with adding Ristolainen and his physicality, but for that price, I'm expecting a much bigger impact. Buffalo probably got better value for Ristolainen than the Preds got for Ryan Ellis. Unreal.

agreed. he's a good add and he'll flourish, but the price was just way to much.

I'm not as critical on him as the anlaytics crowd, but even if he improves and looks better than he did in Buffalo, for the price given he needs to improve a lot, and if he does then we can't afford to keep him at that point so I just don't get the move, he only has 1 year left. Unless they signed him to an extension, that makes it even more egregious.

Just when you thought things couldn't get worse for Carter Hart....

Welcome to the hell that Minnesota had from chuck fletcher. Always thinking “this is the missing piece” and mortgaging the future for it. Lead us to lots of mediocrity and bad contracts.

I was enjoying his patient approach as it led to a good deal in Ellis, but if this is what he's like going all in, then please good riddance.

Treats draft picks like pringles at the deadline. You won’t get to use a 1st rounder for like 5 years or 2nd rounder for that matter.

Fletcher got fleeced, Flyers are desperate to be in win now mode lol

Buffalo accepts

The problem with that is, Risto barely moves the needle. Pretty soon we will be in Sharks territory. A ton of useless contracts and no draft picks. Stuck. Is there anyone more arrogant about his mid-round draft success than Chuck Fletcher.

I am absolutely sick to my stomach knowing we made this trade

It's not that people undervalued Risto but I think people vastly overvalue draft picks and prospects - I mean there are very few sure things in a NHL draft and people call prospects untouchable and I check them out and they haven't even played in the AHL yet - Power is the consensus #1 and I feel he has a 50% chance to be a first pair D-man after 3- years - Beniers is a player I'd like on my team but I doubt he's a first line center more like a good two-way 2nd line center - people don't like a 27 y/o because he might decline in 3-4 years but they love a 19 y/o who might take 3-4 years to set foot in the NHL or might not make it at all.

I agree Risto is underrated. However Philly overpaid significantly in this trade. If you remove the 2nd in 2023 and add 50% retained, the trade is even. But wow.

I agree about over-valuing draft prospects, but Rasmus Ristolainen is legit not good, and he is on a 1 year deal. So unless the flyers win the stanley cup this year, this trade is more than likely a failure, because even if Risto outperforms his Buffalo production astronomically. By trading this much for him, you just gave his agent huge bargaining chip when it comes to his next contract. Flyers already have to re-sign Giroux, Coots, and Farabee next year. If he's bad? You don't re-sign and lost a ton of draft compensation. If he's good? You are in a huge cap crunch and probably can't afford to keep him.

*Checks Notes* -- Voracek and JVR still are on the roster with big contracts and we already have significantly less picks to work with because of Ristolainen. Picks we likely needed to trade w/ Voracek/JVR to get rid of them.

And I agree with the guy above. If there was any sort of retention, I'd be a little less outraged, but to get no retention for just this year is freaking nuts. How could you not convince Buffalo to retain on a 1 year deal when they are already fleecing you. Chuck must of had big plans tonight at 8 pm, he was desperate to get out of this 1st round.