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Créé par: HabsFan33
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 22 juill. 2021
Publié: 22 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 250 000 $
42 400 000 $
2850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
42 800 000 $
74 850 000 $
1850 000 $
43 600 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni (500 000 $ retained)
OTT
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
2.
MTL
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
BUF
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Hillis, Cameron
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
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Logo de CHI
Logo de WSH
Logo de STL
Logo de PHI
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2022
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2023
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
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Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $64 337 977 $597 561 $1 475 000 $17 162 023 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
850 000 $850 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
850 000 $850 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
3 600 000 $3 600 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5

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22 juill. 2021 à 9 h 5
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sensonfire
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We could have had Byron on waivers during the regular season and we didn't claim him.

So, this is Dadonov with retention to a division rival for a 4th round pick.

Hard pass frown
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22 juill. 2021 à 9 h 18
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No thanks. If we are trading Dadonov, it would have to be Tarasenko or Voracek in the return even if we have to slightly add
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22 juill. 2021 à 10 h 40
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Quoting: sensonfire
We could have had Byron on waivers during the regular season and we didn't claim him.

So, this is Dadonov with retention to a division rival for a 4th round pick.

Hard pass frown


I did the retention first and forgot to adjust after I'd signed everybody and completed other trades. As you can see with the space left, Habs could take on the full Dadonov cap hit. So no problem there.

As for Byron and this rhetoric that "he was on waivers last year, we could have grabbed him for free, why do we want him know" is complete BS. In case you don't know how waivers work, once you pick up a guy - he has to stay on your NHL roster for at least 30 days, whether you play him or not. And when his on your roster, his daily cap hit counts toward the team total (I'm sure you know that already). With that said, by the time Byron was put on waivers the first time, Ottawa had already committed to playing the kids with a few vets sitting in the stands. It didn't make sense for their roster at the time.

Now, with news this week that Dorion has confirmed that both Dadonov and Tierney will be traded prior to camp opening - it seems clear to me that Dadonov now becomes a cap dump. If I'm Ottawa, I'd rather have Byron at $3.4M for two yrs than Dadonov at $5M for two. Byron is a much more versatile player than Dadonov. He's great 5v5 and an excellent PK player. HIs work ethic alone is something the young guns would appreciate in Ottawa. Dadonov is a PP specialist imo. I think the trade works for both teams needs. Habs get someone that could provide extra offense if paired with Suzuki/Caufield and Sens get a versatile bottom 6 winger - which where Dadonov would probably end up playing if Sens can't find a suitor.
22 juill. 2021 à 10 h 46
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No thanks. If we are trading Dadonov, it would have to be Tarasenko or Voracek in the return even if we have to slightly add


Sorry but Dadonov plus extras will not get you either of those players imo. Although only just one season in Ottawa, Dadonov might have proved that his offensive production stemmed from playing with Barkov/Huberdeau/Trochek (not sure what line he was on). He's clearly not a guy that can drive your offense but more of a secondary type player. You'd have to add significantly to get Tarasenko. Philly might bite just to get rid of the Voracek contract but I'd think they'd get better offers from elsewhere.
22 juill. 2021 à 11 h 18
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I did the retention first and forgot to adjust after I'd signed everybody and completed other trades. As you can see with the space left, Habs could take on the full Dadonov cap hit. So no problem there.

As for Byron and this rhetoric that "he was on waivers last year, we could have grabbed him for free, why do we want him know" is complete BS. In case you don't know how waivers work, once you pick up a guy - he has to stay on your NHL roster for at least 30 days, whether you play him or not. And when his on your roster, his daily cap hit counts toward the team total (I'm sure you know that already). With that said, by the time Byron was put on waivers the first time, Ottawa had already committed to playing the kids with a few vets sitting in the stands. It didn't make sense for their roster at the time.

Now, with news this week that Dorion has confirmed that both Dadonov and Tierney will be traded prior to camp opening - it seems clear to me that Dadonov now becomes a cap dump. If I'm Ottawa, I'd rather have Byron at $3.4M for two yrs than Dadonov at $5M for two. Byron is a much more versatile player than Dadonov. He's great 5v5 and an excellent PK player. HIs work ethic alone is something the young guns would appreciate in Ottawa. Dadonov is a PP specialist imo. I think the trade works for both teams needs. Habs get someone that could provide extra offense if paired with Suzuki/Caufield and Sens get a versatile bottom 6 winger - which where Dadonov would probably end up playing if Sens can't find a suitor.


If we trade Dadonov, it won't be for Byron.

That's a guarantee.
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