Now WAS fans can understand what us CHI fans have been dealing with the last few weeks.

I think both teams say no here. Carlson doesn’t exactly solve Columbus’s problems plus taking on hagelin’s cap hit. And the caps won’t move Carlson for Jones.

Swap Jones for ZW and I’m in

ZW is worth more than a bottom 6 forward and a dman in his 30s. ZW might even have more value than Carlson at this point of his career

Carlson is the best offensive D in the league… 119p in 121gp. Lol like let’s ignore the massive upside and just use his age to diminish his value. Recently finished in 2nd Norris voting…. Most points by a Dman last 2 years but you choose to describe him as a 30year old Dman… clearly the most intelligent way to go about this.

Lmao what massive upside does he have being in his 30s? The one who has the massive upside is ZW, who is already an elite player. Why would Columbus make that trade? And yes, age does diminish value. Does a player like ovi still have the same value as years prior, even though he’s still producing a lot? No. And why are you bringing up finishing 2nd in Norris last year? Why not bring up where he finished this year? Oh that’s right. You chose his best season, not his typical year.

ZW already has 4 10+ goal seasons, and a 20 goal season (which Carlson has yet to have). Makes absolutely zero sense for the jackets to make a trade for an older dman and give up a young one like ZW.

1) upside means “the positive or favorable aspect of something” I think you mean potential or room to improve?
2) I said you ignored his positive features to use age to diminish his value. I never said age isn’t a negative i just pointed out you used his age as a main focus point to establish value which is dumb lol. He’s the best offensive Dman in the league. Would you describe Crosby as a 30 year old or the 2nd best player in the world ? I’m not saying Carlson has more value either lol I think ZW is amazing. I suggested ZW bc Carlson value is more than 1 year of Jones. You clearly are bias towards the Capitals but it’s embarrassing to say “ 30 years old Dman” when describing Carlson. Like you are purposely trying to describe him in the most underwhelming way possible. Lol do better next time. Idk why you feel the need to explain ZW value… I know he’s great I think he’s only 23 also… maybe you made the mistake of thinking I undervalue him as a player ?

Yes. Age between Carlson and ZW is the main point. They both excel in their positions, and you surround ZW with the talent WSH has, and he'd be even better. And I see constantly people bring up crosbys age and his value. "Oh team x says no because of crosbys age" "Team X isn't giving up futures for a past prime crosby" Age is a huge factor. No team is trading a young elite player for someone in the 30s.

I agree again I was saying that bc his value is more than Jones imo.
Like if I was the Avs I would trade Byram for Crosby. Now that’s unrelated to this trade but just saying. Idk if that even gets you Crosby would have to be way more imo. Just saying some people don’t realize that teams trying to win give up a lot to do so.