As a Flyers Fan, even I know what a terrible trade that is for Buffalo

If you traded with Seattle for Voracek why didn't you use Seattle? And if you think St. Louis is taking Voracek I have land on the moon I can sell you

Flyers didn't protect NAK to just flip him for nothing

We got hosed in the Frost deal

Savard will start at 5million

Its not all bad, I think you are correct that Seattle drafts Haag

Reinhart and Konecny put up similar numbers. Reinhart wants out, they would have Konecny for several years at a reasonable cap hit. Eakin was bad last year and only has one year left on his deal. Buffalo isn't exactly a hot spot for free agents so getting JVR for two years makes them better. The Flyers could add a prospect or pick if need be.

Tarasenko is on he Blues roster, hence why the trade appears to be with them. I Stated in the comments he will get taken by Seattle and flipped for Jake and a pick.

If you are dumb enough to think they protected NAK because of how much the like him that's on you. They protected him so Seattle wouldn't be tempted take a cheap option like him, and instead hopefully force their hand to take on a bigger salary like Jake, JVR, or Ghost.

Bertuzzi is a proven 25 goal / 45-50 point winger who is a pain in the ass to play against. Frost has done nothing. They'd be lucky to get a player like Bertuzzi or Garland for him and a first.

Savard isn't getting 5 million in a flat cap, and he certainly isn't ''starting at 5 million.''

Anything else dumb you want to say.....

Detroit declines.

Kinda keeps the team about the same though, no?

Bertz replaces JVR and everything else ~ even

Voracek and Tarasenko likely similar input overall

Especially given their relative health situations

Even if one assumes Ghost is useless defensively (moreso he's meh) Savard is useless offensively and Ghost outscored Dumba this past season so... 😐

So Flyers fan says Frost and a 1st is way too much for Bertuzzi. Detroit fan says it's not enough. Gotta love NHL fans.

Bertuzzi is cheaper than JVR, and a much more physical player. The Flyers were way too easy to play against last year. Bertuzzi helps with that.

Tarasenko is a sniper, Voracek a playmaker. It's about fit. The Flyers need a sniper a lot more than a playmaker.

The Flyers were the worst team in the league in terms of goals against last season. They need a Savard a lot more than a Ghost on their defense. Again, it's about fit.

Reinhart enables them to move Hayes down to 3C which gives them the high end center depth they desperately need which you didn't mention. Add to that Ellis and a much better goalie to play with Hart in Bernier and no the team is nowhere near the same.

So he isn't allowed to say no?

Haha I stand by what I said

Stick to the Eagles, Phillies and Sixers 3 loser sports with even worse athletes

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