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The absolute maximum I would pay for Ryan Strome

Créé par: sensonfire
Date de création initiale: jui 19, 2021
Publié: 19 jui à 13 h 54
Équipe: 2021-22 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Tkachuk, Brady88 000 000 $
Batherson, Drake34 725 000 $
Gustavsson, Filip2925 000 $
Brown, Logan1832 500 $
Mete, Victor1750 000 $
Amadio, Michael1750 000 $
Senyshyn, Zach1750 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
McTavish, Mason3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
    SEA
    1. Dadonov, Evgeni
    2.
    OTT
    1. Strome, Ryan
    Détails additionnels:
    If Ryan Strome does not commit to an extension of at least 3 years with Ottawa after the trade takes place, the trade is called off.
    NYR
    1. Thomson, Lassi
    2. Fortunato, Brandon [Droits de RFA]
    3. 2022 2e round pick (TBL)
    Détails additionnels:
    Two different trades are used as a rough template for making this one:

    1. The Matt Duchene trade with Columbus

    2. The Mark Stone trade with Vegas
    3.
    OTT
    1. Senyshyn, Zach [Droits de RFA]
    BOS
      Claimed off waivers
      Rachats de contrats
      • Bobby Ryan: 3 583 333 $
      • Dion Phaneuf: 354 167 $
      ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
      2021
      OTT
      OTT
      SJS
      OTT
      OTT
      OTT
      2022
      OTT
      OTT
      OTT
      BOS
      OTT
      OTT
      OTT
      OTT
      NYI
      SJS
      2023
      OTT
      OTT
      OTT
      OTT
      OTT
      OTT
      OTT
      NSH
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2181 500 000 $65 298 333 $0 $4 507 500 $16 201 667 $

      Formation

      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      OTT
      Tkachuk, Brady
      8 000 000 $
      AG, C
      UFA - 7
      OTT
      Norris, Joshua
      925 000 $
      C
      RFA - 1
      OTT
      Batherson, Drake
      4 725 000 $
      AD, C
      UFA - 6
      OTT
      Stützle, Tim
      925 000 $
      AG, C
      RFA - 2
      NYR
      Strome, Ryan
      4 500 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
      OTT
      Brown, Connor
      3 600 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      OTT
      Formenton, Alex
      747 500 $
      AG
      RFA - 1
      OTT
      Pinto, Shane
      925 000 $
      C
      RFA - 2
      OTT
      White, Colin
      4 750 000 $
      AD, C
      UFA - 4
      OTT
      Paul, Nicholas
      1 350 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 1
      OTT
      Tierney, Chris
      3 500 000 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      OTT
      Watson, Austin
      1 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 2
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      OTT
      Chabot, Thomas
      8 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 7
      OTT
      Zaitsev, Nikita
      4 500 000 $
      DD
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      OTT
      Gustavsson, Filip
      925 000 $
      G
      RFA - 2
      OTT
      Brännström, Erik
      863 333 $
      DD
      RFA - 1
      OTT
      Zub, Artem
      2 500 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 2
      OTT
      Søgaard, Mads
      925 000 $
      G
      RFA - 3
      OTT
      Mete, Victor
      750 000 $
      DG/DD
      RFA - 1
      OTT
      Brown, Joshua
      1 200 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
      OTT
      Murray, Matt
      6 250 000 $
      G
      NTC
      UFA - 3

      Unités spéciales

      Avantage numérique 1
      Tkachuk, B.
      Norris, J.
      Batherson, D.
      Chabot, T.
      Stützle, T.
      Avantage numérique 2
      Formenton, A.
      Pinto, S.
      White, C.
      Brännström, E.
      Strome, R.
      Infériorité numérique 1
      Paul, N.
      Brown, C.
      Zaitsev, N.
      Zub, A.
      Infériorité numérique 2
      Tierney, C.
      Strome, R.
      Mete, V.
      Brown, J.

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      19 jui à 14 h 00
      #1
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      I don't think that's terribly far off.

      2nd + Jarventie probably does it. Heck we'll retain a bit and maybe throw in Hajek since DJ will find a reason to bench one of those short LHD over the course of a season.
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      19 jui à 14 h 06
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      Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
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      That is much more than I would pay, that's for sure.
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      19 jui à 14 h 06
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      That’s not getting you Ryan Strome
      19 jui à 14 h 08
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      That should definitely be more than enough. My thought was just Thomson and a 2nd.
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      19 jui à 14 h 16
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      A 2nd and a prospect not named JBD, Sanderson, Pinto, Greig or Sokolov (please God not Sharky) is a price I could live with. Don't move the 1st for him, and Don't give him more than 5×5.


      I think Ryan Strome is a good player, but he's exactly the type I'm terrified of Dorion trading for. Due for a huge raise, will be expensive to acquire, and he's primed from massive regression in his production when he's taken away from Panarin. I can see how it could work out, and he could be great with Stützle, but I'm also getting severe Derick Brassard flashbacks
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      19 jui à 14 h 19
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      Quoting: TCMonkey
      That is much more than I would pay, that's for sure.


      If Strome doesn't commit to an extension of at least 3 years, the trade is called off.

      We should have no interest in rentals at this point in time, unless we're making the playoffs.

      We need solid NHL players that actually want to play for the Ottawa Senators.
      19 jui à 14 h 25
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      If Strome doesn't commit to an extension of at least 3 years, the trade is called off.

      We should have no interest in rentals at this point in time, unless we're making the playoffs.

      We need solid NHL players that actually want to play for the Ottawa Senators.



      Just a technicality. Ottawa can't "call off the trade". You either trade for him or you don't. It's the Rangers who have to go to Strome, and get the signed extension. I guess the question is do the Rangers inform Strome that if he signs the contract he is going to traded to Ottawa or they don't inform him.
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      19 jui à 14 h 26
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      Quoting: IconicHawk
      That’s not getting you Ryan Strome


      The majority of people commenting on this post seem to disagree with you.
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      19 jui à 14 h 27
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      The majority of people commenting on this post seem to disagree with you.


      I think the Rangers would want slightly more but not too much
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      19 jui à 14 h 28
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      Quoting: palhal
      Just a technicality. Ottawa can't "call off the trade". You either trade for him or you don't. It's the Rangers who have to go to Strome, and get the signed extension. I guess the question is do the Rangers inform Strome that if he signs the contract he is going to traded to Ottawa or they don't inform him.


      When Mark Stone was traded to Vegas, he immediately signed an extension afterwards.

      If we trade for Strome, I want things to go down the same way, only with less money and less term than Stone.
      19 jui à 14 h 33
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      When Mark Stone was traded to Vegas, he immediately signed an extension afterwards.

      If we trade for Strome, I want things to go down the same way, only with less money and less term than Stone.


      Strome won’t want to go to A FOURTH REBUILDING team (well the rangers are out of the rebuild pretty much now but they were when he was traded there)
      19 jui à 14 h 36
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      When Mark Stone was traded to Vegas, he immediately signed an extension afterwards.

      If we trade for Strome, I want things to go down the same way, only with less money and less term than Stone.


      It was t different for Stone. Ottawa was out of playoffs Ottawa had offered a fair contract but he was going the UFA route. So Ottawa/Vegas and Stone deal for the trade and the signing.
      I agree with you that the Sens would want a guarantee of an extension, but really it's Strome's decision if he wants to forgo UFA next summer by signing a extension now.
      If the money is about right...gotta think Strome would love being a Senator. Lots of good forwards to share the responsiblities on a fun, improving team.
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      19 jui à 14 h 40
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      Quoting: IconicHawk
      Strome won’t want to go to A FOURTH REBUILDING team (well the rangers are out of the rebuild pretty much now but they were when he was traded there)


      Senators really a good last half the 20/21 season. IMO they are close to finish their rebuild. Lots of good young players and cap space. I like the Rangers prospects too but Ottawa just might be very good very soon.
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      19 jui à 14 h 41
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      Quoting: palhal
      Senators really a good last half the 20/21 season. IMO they are close to finish their rebuild. Lots of good young players and cap space. I like the Rangers prospects too but Ottawa just might be very good very soon.


      It’ll take another 2 years of them to make the playoffs
      19 jui à 15 h 18
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      Quoting: palhal
      Just a technicality. Ottawa can't "call off the trade". You either trade for him or you don't. It's the Rangers who have to go to Strome, and get the signed extension. I guess the question is do the Rangers inform Strome that if he signs the contract he is going to traded to Ottawa or they don't inform him.


      The Rangers would presumably give teams permission to speak to Strome's camp about an extension, and the deal would probably be made on the understanding that an agreed extension would be signed. It's good for the team acquiring him to know he isn't a rental, and it's good for the Rangers because it maximizes his potential trade value.
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      20 jui à 14 h 45
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      OTT should stay the frick away from a player who is only good when paired with a top 5 winger in the league....
      20 jui à 17 h 48
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      Quoting: mhroblak
      That should definitely be more than enough. My thought was just Thomson and a 2nd.


      Fortunato is not a prospect, if he is, he isn't close to make the Sens top-30

      Quoting: IconicHawk
      Strome won’t want to go to A FOURTH REBUILDING team (well the rangers are out of the rebuild pretty much now but they were when he was traded there)


      You think the Rangers are going much better than Ottawa next season?

      If Dorion doesn't sabotage it again (big IF), then I see the Sens rising next season.

      After the coach and GM messed up several things and the players shook off the rust (no game for 10+ months), Ottawa was 15th OA in the NHL after February 13th
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      20 jui à 17 h 50
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      Quoting: Xspyrit
      Fortunato is not a prospect, if he is, he isn't close to make the Sens top-30


      Okay my bad there. But regardless, it's an offer I'd accept.
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