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Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 17 juill. 2021
Publié: 17 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
33 125 000 $
32 625 000 $
3750 000 $
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31 975 000 $
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MTL
    expansion draft
    2.
    MTL
    1. Duchene, Matt
    Détails additionnels:
    cap recapture
    NSH
    1. Drouin, Jonathan
    2. Poehling, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
    3. Weber, Shea
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
    3.
    MTL
    1. Fleury, Marc-André (2 000 000 $ retained)
    VGK
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (WSH)
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
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    17 juill. 2021 à 22 h 26
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    Deal from Preds!!!!
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    17 juill. 2021 à 22 h 28
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    Ovechkin 3 years 11 million ,jesus christ... his not 25 anymore
    17 juill. 2021 à 22 h 33
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    What is that Nashville offer?? Lol. Habs in no way would do that. Weber is on ltir at least and Duchene is a big negative in terms of trade value.
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    17 juill. 2021 à 22 h 51
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    What is that Nashville offer?? Lol. Habs in no way would do that. Weber is on ltir at least and Duchene is a big negative in terms of trade value.


    I unload Weber AND Drouin! For cap recapture both team win big time. it's a money deal.
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    17 juill. 2021 à 22 h 52
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    Why would you do that NSH offer? It will be cheaper to keep Weber, They'll just keep him on LTIR. Why would we want to take on Duchenes contract?
    17 juill. 2021 à 23 h 0
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    Why would you do that NSH offer? It will be cheaper to keep Weber, They'll just keep him on LTIR. Why would we want to take on Duchenes contract?


    Unloading both Drouin and Weber and give us another speedy forward to balance our group.

    Nashville need that and habs don't need distraction .... So we start a renew!
    17 juill. 2021 à 23 h 0
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    Vegas isn’t going to retain on Fleury….I don’t think he’ll be moved tbh; it’s Lehner if either one gets moved
    17 juill. 2021 à 23 h 1
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    Unloading both Drouin and Weber and give us another speedy forward to balance our group.

    Nashville need that and habs don't need distraction .... So we start a renew!


    Drouin has 2 years left so we can just wait till that deal is up, And we can keep Weber on LTIR, No point in trading for a 8 mil player who had a bad season last year
    17 juill. 2021 à 23 h 8
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    I unload Weber AND Drouin! For cap recapture both team win big time. it's a money deal.


    Nashville would take Weber for free if he was going to retire so they could save on that penalty. Then you add Duchene who's contract is ten times worse than Drouin's. Then you have the nerve to add Poehling (insanely underrated on here) and a first round pick! Thank god you're not the actual gm lol
    17 juill. 2021 à 23 h 9
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    Vegas isn’t going to retain on Fleury….I don’t think he’ll be moved tbh; it’s Lehner if either one gets moved


    1yr retention vs 2 3rd is a good move and unloading 5 million too. Its a question mark trade for Vegas but gives Habs a transition goalie.
    17 juill. 2021 à 23 h 13
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    Nashville would take Weber for free if he was going to retire so they could save on that penalty. Then you add Duchene who's contract is ten times worse than Drouin's. Then you have the nerve to add Poehling (insanely underrated on here) and a first round pick! Thank god you're not the actual gm lol


    Poehling is a good kid but not for our system but i'm paying for Drouin here ... 2021 is not a deep draft and our 1st is here a damn 2nd.

    We need to move on before tempest François Gagnon rip MB head off .... Media trouble are something that need to be assess
    17 juill. 2021 à 23 h 18
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    we hold the cards with Weber...Duchene is not worth Drouin+Poehling+1st...this is terrible
    17 juill. 2021 à 23 h 27
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    Poehling is a good kid but not for our system but i'm paying for Drouin here ... 2021 is not a deep draft and our 1st is here a damn 2nd.

    We need to move on before tempest François Gagnon rip MB head off .... Media trouble are something that need to be assess


    You clearly don't understand values. And Btw there is a very good chance Poehling will be our third line center full time next year or the year after. This kid is going to be solid. You would know if you actually watched him last year. Brutal trade bud
    17 juill. 2021 à 23 h 29
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    Modifié 18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 12
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    we hold the cards with Weber...Duchene is not worth Drouin+Poehling+1st...this is terrible


    And if he bounce back with our system we win .... Or we do another Domi in 2yrs wink !! We are renewing our core. Time to move on. I'm not keeping dead weight on ltir! (AIN'T NO LEAFS OR TAMPA)
    17 juill. 2021 à 23 h 30
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    You clearly don't understand values. And Btw there is a very good chance Poehling will be our third line center full time next year or the year after. This kid is going to be solid. You would know if you actually watched him last year. Brutal trade bud


    Yeah right ... I value Poehling but i'm paying for Drouin ... There is no trouble there ... Geez are ya'll snowflakes now that we can finally have an offense first mind team??
    17 juill. 2021 à 23 h 45
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    Yeah right ... I value Poehling but i'm paying for Drouin ... There is no trouble there ... Geez are ya'll snowflakes now that we can finally have an offense first mind team??


    You're forgetting you're taking on a worse situation than Drouin in Duchene. You're way way overvauling how bad Drouin is. His value may be zero (although i personally think he has some value) but he doesn't have negative value.
    18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 9
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    You're forgetting you're taking on a worse situation than Drouin in Duchene. You're way way overvauling how bad Drouin is. His value may be zero (although i personally think he has some value) but he doesn't have negative value.


    Drouin is out next year. Duchesne can still play. I know it's heavy to have 5*8 but if he get injured it's 8 million ltir. Duchesne can bounce back. With that deal Nashville are at cap floor and if they push for a run cab boost up over the cap. It's a huge win for them, i know its a gamble, but for our media frenzy it will help to calm down sonenof our gonghead and give the players a chance to push forward. Also playing Duch on a third with Gally give us a check line, so we can protect the injury proned player with a good 2way center. And no he is not a worst case scenario than Drouin .... You are undervaluing the Duch ....
    18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 14
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    Drouin is out next year. Duchesne can still play. I know it's heavy to have 5*8 but if he get injured it's 8 million ltir. Duchesne can bounce back. With that deal Nashville are at cap floor and if they push for a run cab boost up over the cap. It's a huge win for them, i know its a gamble, but for our media frenzy it will help to calm down sonenof our gonghead and give the players a chance to push forward. Also playing Duch on a third with Gally give us a check line, so we can protect the injury proned player with a good 2way center. And no he is not a worst case scenario than Drouin .... You are undervaluing the Duch ....


    You have your values way off. Even if you think Drouin is equal to Duchene (which it isn't since Duchene makes 8mil!) and Weber you can give away for free to Nashville if he is retiring then you' re essentially giving them a first round pick and a very very underrated good prospect for absolutely nothing. Poor asset management
    18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 35
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    You have your values way off. Even if you think Drouin is equal to Duchene (which it isn't since Duchene makes 8mil!) and Weber you can give away for free to Nashville if he is retiring then you' re essentially giving them a first round pick and a very very underrated good prospect for absolutely nothing. Poor asset management


    Have you seen 2021 draft?
    Weber for free .... League wouldn't accept ... You have value and valor in a fantasy chart where i've checked the rules and the depth chart ... Both teams benefit and lose something .... You have feeling where i don't ..... .. stoo arguing and agree that we disagree ... My team here is a boost for a second round without the eternal media yapping .... We need a massive blast to renew and that's start with flushing the distraction ... Ain't keeping both drou or webby so no François Gagnon can blame or cry about ... Have you seen how Danault situation has gone with the famous contract ... I'm protecting my player by giving them away. They are human and i cannot accept such situation. We have a real problem with the media here and with such move we can shut that too. Less pressure, more active player and less cap crunch have their cost so yeah 30th + Poehling could be a high price but the outside win over the media, getting Duch and moving forward is the solution to all the damn fuzz.

    When it come to trade the human perspective need to be assess in the new era of hockey. I know what i'm looking for. Have you seen the combinaison, can you tell me which playbook i'm gonna use .... Ah yeah we are never talking about the system but always about money value .... Well get that checked and you will see what i'm doing ... Anderson Duchene Gallagher Ovechkine ... Other teams could cry the hella, but you are afraid of money value ...
    18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 44
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    Have you seen 2021 draft?
    Weber for free .... League wouldn't accept ... You have value and valor in a fantasy chart where i've checked the rules and the depth chart ... Both teams benefit and lose something .... You have feeling where i don't ..... .. stoo arguing and agree that we disagree ... My team here is a boost for a second round without the eternal media yapping .... We need a massive blast to renew and that's start with flushing the distraction ... Ain't keeping both drou or webby so no François Gagnon can blame or cry about ... Have you seen how Danault situation has gone with the famous contract ... I'm protecting my player by giving them away. They are human and i cannot accept such situation. We have a real problem with the media here and with such move we can shut that too. Less pressure, more active player and less cap crunch have their cost so yeah 30th + Poehling could be a high price but the outside win over the media, getting Duch and moving forward is the solution to all the damn fuzz.

    When it come to trade the human perspective need to be assess in the new era of hockey. I know what i'm looking for. Have you seen the combinaison, can you tell me which playbook i'm gonna use .... Ah yeah we are never talking about the system but always about money value .... Well get that checked and you will see what i'm doing ... Anderson Duchene Gallagher Ovechkine ... Other teams could cry the hella, but you are afraid of money value ...


    Sorry man, normally I would say we can agree to disagree but in this case you got fleeced. Habs fans would you alive if you made that deal. (I'm only talking about this one trade). Nashville would pay the habs to not have the recapture penalty and Duchene has negative value. If the trade was Drouin straight up for Duchene then I could see where you were coming from. Poehling will turn out to be at least a solid 3rd line center and you simply don't give away first round picks even if they are late in a proclaimed thin draft.
    18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 46
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    Have you seen 2021 draft?
    Weber for free .... League wouldn't accept ... You have value and valor in a fantasy chart where i've checked the rules and the depth chart ... Both teams benefit and lose something .... You have feeling where i don't ..... .. stoo arguing and agree that we disagree ... My team here is a boost for a second round without the eternal media yapping .... We need a massive blast to renew and that's start with flushing the distraction ... Ain't keeping both drou or webby so no François Gagnon can blame or cry about ... Have you seen how Danault situation has gone with the famous contract ... I'm protecting my player by giving them away. They are human and i cannot accept such situation. We have a real problem with the media here and with such move we can shut that too. Less pressure, more active player and less cap crunch have their cost so yeah 30th + Poehling could be a high price but the outside win over the media, getting Duch and moving forward is the solution to all the damn fuzz.

    When it come to trade the human perspective need to be assess in the new era of hockey. I know what i'm looking for. Have you seen the combinaison, can you tell me which playbook i'm gonna use .... Ah yeah we are never talking about the system but always about money value .... Well get that checked and you will see what i'm doing ... Anderson Duchene Gallagher Ovechkine ... Other teams could cry the hella, but you are afraid of money value ...


    fyi there is a reason no one agrees with you other than the one Nashville fan lol
    18 juill. 2021 à 1 h 3
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    fyi there is a reason no one agrees with you other than the one Nashville fan lol


    Yeah right like when i've called Subban trade few years back... Stop having emotion it's a game where you don't have the tool to be that emotional. Players are assets and both habs and Nashville win here .... Stop putting your limbic system afront and think once. If i'm having few agm at 20 messages or so week after week it's because i'm pointing in the grey zone. Now stop with all your childish reacts and you tell me what system am i using ...
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    Yeah right like when i've called Subban trade few years back... Stop having emotion it's a game where you don't have the tool to be that emotional. Players are assets and both habs and Nashville win here .... Stop putting your limbic system afront and think once. If i'm having few agm at 20 messages or so week after week it's because i'm pointing in the grey zone. Now stop with all your childish reacts and you tell me what system am i using ...


    Lol. What are you rambling on about? Habs get fleeced in this deal. And again thats why no one agrees with you on that offer.

    And i'm sure you called the Subban for Weber trade before it happened. You're clearly full of **** and don't come close to knowing any values.
    18 juill. 2021 à 1 h 33
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    Lol. What are you rambling on about? Habs get fleeced in this deal. And again thats why no one agrees with you on that offer.

    And i'm sure you called the Subban for Weber trade before it happened. You're clearly full of **** and don't come close to knowing any values.


    Look how rude and triggered you are ... You value cash, not component and skiilset. You didn't prove anything ... at best mention your feeling. I remember the Domi-Galchenyuk when everyone was ludicrous. Yet again no one talk about chemistry nor game setting. You are the one alone doing rampage on a AGM site ... who's nut?
    18 juill. 2021 à 1 h 39
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    Look how rude and triggered you are ... You value cash, not component and skiilset. You didn't prove anything ... at best mention your feeling. I remember the Domi-Galchenyuk when everyone was ludicrous. Yet again no one talk about chemistry nor game setting. You are the one alone doing rampage on a AGM site ... who's nut?


    You're nuts for giving away Poehling and a first tound pick when you didn't have to lol. Its ok to admit you were wrong. Its a bad offer. You could have done the exact same trade and not include Poehling and the first. Nashville would love to get rid of Duchene
     
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