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Garland To leafs

Créé par: Leafsfan16
Date de création initiale: jui 17, 2021
Publié: 17 jui à 19 h 46
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Garland, Conor44 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Bogosian, Zach11 200 000 $
Bunting, Michael11 250 000 $
Bozak, Tyler22 000 000 $
Transactions
TOR
    SEA
    1. Dermott, Travis
    TOR
    1. Garland, Conor [Droits de RFA]
    2. Kuemper, Darcy (2 250 000 $ retained)
    ARI
    1. Kerfoot, Alexander
    2. Engvall, Pierre
    3. Abramov, Mikhail
    4. 2022 2e round pick (TOR)
    5. 2023 4e round pick (TOR)
    TOR
    1. 2021 4e round pick (CBJ)
    2. 2022 6e round pick (TOR)
    Any team for Picks
    CBJ
    1. Mikheyev, Ilya
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    TOR
    CBJ
    TOR
    TOR
    2022
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2023
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $79 374 783 $0 $1 650 000 $2 125 217 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Garland, Conor
    4 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 5
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    10 903 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    McCann, Jared
    2 940 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    11 000 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    6 962 366 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Robertson, Nicholas
    796 667 $
    AG
    RFA - 3
    Bozak, Tyler
    2 000 000 $
    C, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Bunting, Michael
    1 250 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Brooks, Adam
    725 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Simmonds, Wayne
    900 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    5 000 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    5 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    1 650 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    5 625 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Holl, Justin
    2 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    ARI
    Kuemper, Darcy
    1 250 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    894 167 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    TOR
    Semyonov, Kirill
    825 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Bogosian, Zach
    1 200 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3

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    17 jui à 19 h 53
    #1
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    Yotes counter offered with Robertson, a 1rst and Kerfoot for Garland and Kuemper

    Better offers for Garland and don't see them trading Kuemper, probably more Raanta that leaves
    17 jui à 19 h 54
    #2
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    Garland and Kuemper to the Leafs after the expansion draft makes a ton of sense. But I think the package has to start with Liljegren and a 1st, probably add Abramov and Kerfoot would be my guess. Arizona is gonna get a pretty good haul for Garland as he's been one of the most underrated scorers for a couple years.
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    17 jui à 19 h 55
    #3
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    Quoting: nepTrystan
    Yotes counter offered with Robertson, a 1rst and Kerfoot for Garland and Kuemper

    Better offers for Garland and don't see them trading Kuemper, probably more Raanta that leaves


    Nah Garland isnt worth Robertson.
    17 jui à 19 h 55
    #4
    was lebronisdagoat
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    ur making leafs fans look bad buddy
    17 jui à 19 h 56
    #5
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    Garland to the Leafs makes sense as much as I hate it but two overpaid players like Kerfoot and Engvall won't move the needle there. Probably Liljegren, Amirov, or Robertson and a 1st with your picks being so late.
    17 jui à 19 h 56
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    Quoting: Leafsfan16
    Nah Garland isnt worth Robertson.


    Coldest of takes
    17 jui à 19 h 57
    #7
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    Quoting: Leafsfan16
    Nah Garland isnt worth Robertson.


    I don't think it's a good offer either, but that deal makes Arizona laughs so they will counter attack

    Probably more like Amirov, Kerfoot, Engvall and a 2nd it's a little bit more fair
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    17 jui à 19 h 57
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    Quoting: Chapee44
    Garland to the Leafs makes sense as much as I hate it but two overpaid players like Kerfoot and Engvall won't move the needle there. Probably Liljegren, Amirov, or Robertson and a 1st with your picks being so late.


    Kerfoot was one of the only players that had a good playoff run for the Leafs he has value.
    17 jui à 19 h 58
    #9
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    Quoting: nepTrystan
    I don't think it's a good offer either, but that deal makes Arizona laughs so they will counter attack

    Probably more like Amirov, Kerfoot, Engvall and a 2nd it's a little bit more fair


    Or Liligren
    17 jui à 19 h 58
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    Quoting: nepTrystan
    Yotes counter offered with Robertson, a 1rst and Kerfoot for Garland and Kuemper

    Better offers for Garland and don't see them trading Kuemper, probably more Raanta that leaves


    Robertson is off the table and Arizona doesn't have much leverage. They're trying to massively cut budget (reported internal budget is about $65M) and Kuemper makes $5.5M on a $4.5M cap hit and Garland is due for a huge raise. Kuemper has already told them he won't re-sign there next off-season so he's likely gone and they'll sign another goalie this off season. Arizona will be looking for NHL players that make less real dollars than their cap hit so I can see them wanting Kerfoot. As said in my last comment, an offer like this would be a fairly competitive offer:

    Toronto Maple Leafs
    Conor Garland
    Darcy Kuemper

    Arizona Coyotes
    Timothy Liljegren
    Alex Kerfoot
    2022 Toronto 1st round pick
    Mikhail Abramov
    (Could also throw in an conditional pick if Arizona retains on Kuemper but with then trying to cut budget, I don't see that as likely)
    17 jui à 20 h 01
    #11
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    Quoting: Leafsfan16
    Kerfoot was one of the only players that had a good playoff run for the Leafs he has value.


    His numbers were actually still quite bad in the playoffs... still a negative impact overall... not sure you can call 7 games a run either lol
    17 jui à 20 h 05
    #12
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    Quoting: Leafsfan16
    Or Liligren


    Liljgren compared to Amirov (or Sandin, or Robertson) has 0 value. I think he got overhyped and i don't see this guy as a future top 4 d

    for garland only it would make sens, but if you add kuemper, you'll need to put a bigger name thant tat
    17 jui à 20 h 06
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Robertson is off the table and Arizona doesn't have much leverage. They're trying to massively cut budget (reported internal budget is about $65M) and Kuemper makes $5.5M on a $4.5M cap hit and Garland is due for a huge raise. Kuemper has already told them he won't re-sign there next off-season so he's likely gone and they'll sign another goalie this off season. Arizona will be looking for NHL players that make less real dollars than their cap hit so I can see them wanting Kerfoot. As said in my last comment, an offer like this would be a fairly competitive offer:

    Toronto Maple Leafs
    Conor Garland
    Darcy Kuemper

    Arizona Coyotes
    Timothy Liljegren
    Alex Kerfoot
    2022 Toronto 1st round pick
    Mikhail Abramov
    (Could also throw in an conditional pick if Arizona retains on Kuemper but with then trying to cut budget, I don't see that as likely)


    Quite better, but still less compared of what you're getting.

    If you swap the 1rst to a 3rd and Liljgren to Amirov, you're talking big money
    17 jui à 20 h 13
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    Quoting: lucal2228
    ur making leafs fans look bad buddy


    Lots of leaf fans make the good ones look like idiots
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    17 jui à 20 h 20
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    Quoting: nepTrystan
    Quite better, but still less compared of what you're getting.

    If you swap the 1rst to a 3rd and Liljgren to Amirov, you're talking big money


    Top prospects will be off the table because every team knows about Arizona's financial situation and they're not gonna pay too prospects to help out Arizona. That already takes off that table Toronto's top 3 prospects in Sandin, Robertson, and Amirov. Their next 2 prospects in line which are still B rated prospects are Liljegren and Abramov. It's a more than fair offer what I listed.
    17 jui à 20 h 35
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Top prospects will be off the table because every team knows about Arizona's financial situation and they're not gonna pay too prospects to help out Arizona. That already takes off that table Toronto's top 3 prospects in Sandin, Robertson, and Amirov. Their next 2 prospects in line which are still B rated prospects are Liljegren and Abramov. It's a more than fair offer what I listed.


    But so deos Toronto! They're in a really tough spot, so team knows that they're. They will not give the Leafs anything
    17 jui à 21 h 10
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    Quoting: nepTrystan
    But so deos Toronto! They're in a really tough spot, so team knows that they're. They will not give the Leafs anything


    No they're not? Leafs aren't in financial troubles. They're one of the richest teams in North America. Their cap situation isn't an issue - everyone on here doesn't seem to realize that they've always figured it out and there was like 10 teams in overage cap space after last season, and Toronto wasn't one of them. They have space, and if Kerfoot is moved it creates even more space. They have moveable assets and again, the offer I've listed is strong. I'd be shocked if there are many teams that beat it because most of them are recovering from the pandemic and don't have the financial flexibility to add a $5.5M goalie and a forward who's likely getting at least that. $11M isn't easy to add and pay, Leafs have that advantage.
    17 jui à 21 h 24
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    No they're not? Leafs aren't in financial troubles. They're one of the richest teams in North America. Their cap situation isn't an issue - everyone on here doesn't seem to realize that they've always figured it out and there was like 10 teams in overage cap space after last season, and Toronto wasn't one of them. They have space, and if Kerfoot is moved it creates even more space. They have moveable assets and again, the offer I've listed is strong. I'd be shocked if there are many teams that beat it because most of them are recovering from the pandemic and don't have the financial flexibility to add a $5.5M goalie and a forward who's likely getting at least that. $11M isn't easy to add and pay, Leafs have that advantage.


    I still thinks arizona refuses, no matter what
     
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