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Dont have to be taken advantage of if done in correct order

Créé par: zibby805
Date de création initiale: 15 juill. 2021
Publié: 15 juill. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Explications
Johnson buy out
then gourde/palat or killorn taken in expansion then the other 2 traded.
Done the way i think will go down.
Tried to make deals that could actually be realistic. give me some leway if you think a third instead of a secound, etc.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Barré-Boulet, Alex2800 000 $
Foote, Cal2800 000 $
Katchouk, Boris2800 000 $
Raddysh, Taylor2800 000 $
Colton, Ross21 800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Coleman, Blake23 000 000 $
Goodrow, Barclay22 000 000 $
Schenn, Luke1800 000 $
Thomas, Ben1800 000 $
Witkowski, Luke1800 000 $
Hakanpää, Jani21 800 000 $
Suter, Ryan1900 000 $
Bernier, Jonathan11 500 000 $
Stastny, Paul11 500 000 $
Nosek, Tomas11 000 000 $
Sutter, Brandon11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TBL
    i don't understand the argument about Seattle not wanting. every report i read says all gms have eyed him sonce coming on the map as a 2C
    SEA
    1. Gourde, Yanni
    2.
    TBL
    1. 2022 3e round pick (PIT)
    2. 2023 3e round pick (LAK)
    3. 2023 4e round pick (PIT)
    I think killorn and LA is a match made.. every report says LA wants a veteran PWR FWD and at a fair cap hit., teach byfield how to use body but maybe not as a bruiser.
    LAK
    1. Killorn, Alex
    3.
    TBL
    1. 2022 3e round pick (STL)
    let the man go home be with his son and go out on top at home
    STL
    1. Maroon, Patrick
    2. Rutta, Jan
    4.
    TBL
    1. 2022 2e round pick (EDM)
    2. 2023 2e round pick (EDM)
    Think zach hyman but way less cost and actual rings (brought keith in for similar reason)
    EDM
    1. Palat, Ondrej
    Rachats de contrats
    • Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $
    • Tyler Johnson: 1 055 556 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2081 500 000 $78 600 678 $145 122 $0 $2 899 322 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Coleman, Blake
    3 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
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    Point, Brayden
    6 750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
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    Kucherov, Nikita
    9 500 000 $
    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    Colton, Ross
    1 800 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 2
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    Cirelli, Anthony
    4 800 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 2
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    Stamkos, Steven
    8 500 000 $
    AD, C, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    Goodrow, Barclay
    2 000 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Stastny, Paul
    1 500 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
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    Joseph, Mathieu
    737 500 $
    C, AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Nosek, Tomas
    1 000 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
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    Stephens, Mitchell
    737 500 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    Sutter, Brandon
    1 000 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Hedman, Victor
    7 875 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    Cernak, Erik
    2 950 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
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    Vasilevskiy, Andrei
    9 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    Sergachev, Mikhail
    4 800 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    Suter, Ryan
    900 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Bernier, Jonathan
    1 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
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    McDonagh, Ryan
    6 750 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    Hakanpää, Jani
    1 800 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Équipe de réserve
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    Schenn, Luke
    800 000 $ (0 $)
    DD
    UFA - 2
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    Foote, Cal
    800 000 $ (0 $)
    DD
    RFA - 2

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    Is Tampa really in Cap Hell?
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    15 juill. 2021 à 14 h 50
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    Oilers are not paying 2 seconds for one year of Palat. I would pay one second and Stalock if you want him for Killorn.
    15 juill. 2021 à 14 h 51
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    Buffalo would give you more for Killorn if you can convince him to waive
    15 juill. 2021 à 14 h 52
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    So 11 guys skip their paydays to take discounts?
    Easy.
    15 juill. 2021 à 14 h 55
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    Not bad .. Palat only worth one #1 though .... Johnson is tradeable with a #2 .. only 3yr/15M left and be can be moved or bought out by new team after year 1 if doenst work out .. At end of day Tamp will SIGN 3 to 4 vets ...so much for no Cap .. LOL
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    15 juill. 2021 à 14 h 57
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    Quoting: TheGreatBigMac
    Oilers are not paying 2 seconds for one year of Palat. I would pay one second and Stalock if you want him for Killorn.


    Yup, with him being a 1 year from UFA you don't need to give up more than a 2nd and a minor piece.
    15 juill. 2021 à 15 h 5
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    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    One of the few realistic posts where Palat and Killorn are traded and Gourde is selection that solves the Cap issues. Now you argue about the trade values and UFA signings, but the thoughts are good.
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    15 juill. 2021 à 15 h 6
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    So 11 guys skip their paydays to take discounts?
    Easy.


    what are you talking about. Goody and Coleman are the only "discounts" everyone else is either a depth player or old or have made their money
    15 juill. 2021 à 15 h 10
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    Quoting: palhal
    One of the few realistic posts where Palat and Killorn are traded and Gourde is selection that solves the Cap issues. Now you argue about the trade values and UFA signings, but the thoughts are good.


    Ya i know my amounts for trades or signings aren't spot on but the premise is what i am going for here. there aren't really in cap hell at all. Johnson is on a buy out friendly contract. No one can say that killorn/palat/gourde don't have serious value with cap hits and production and 2 cups. and there are a ton of vets out there that just want to win
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    15 juill. 2021 à 15 h 11
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    Quoting: TheGreatBigMac
    Oilers are not paying 2 seconds for one year of Palat. I would pay one second and Stalock if you want him for Killorn.


    I don't think killorn will waive for Edmonton and because palat only has 1 year on his contract is why i think 2 2nd rounders makes since. that gives them cap flexibility and to see if hes a good fit
    15 juill. 2021 à 15 h 12
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Buffalo would give you more for Killorn if you can convince him to waive


    LOL i don't think anyone is waiving to go to Buffalo.
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    15 juill. 2021 à 19 h 29
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    No chance Tampa is gutting all of Killorn, Palat, Gourde and Johnson to keep Coleman and some guys who aren't improvements(at less than Tampa can realistically hope to sign them at anyway). Tampa has several younger players in the system that will get more playing time/break into the line up.

    I see Palat getting moved and Johnson being Seattle's pick(with sweetener). If not, Tampa can still make a deal with them to take/not take specific players, then trade Johnson to one of the 20 teams he has to submit a list for. He has more value than he did the last time Tampa tried to move him, so there should be a taker. Tampa should be able to keep Goodrow, and then have players like Colton and Joseph take on a more prominent role, while 1-2 of Barre-Boulet, Raddysb, Katchouk etc get a more regular role in the lineup.
     
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