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Going for Bertuzzi and Getting Bonino plus plus

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Date de création initiale: 14 juill. 2021
Publié: 14 juill. 2021
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I really can't see any way of doing things better than this. Congrats Dubas, you overpaid Marner and Matthews after they had accomplished precisely NOTHING and now you get the rewards. The move to make her is 100% to move Marner but Dubas just loves his guys so much that there is no chance he'll ever do it.
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It's not that he sucks, it's just that he's a defensive player that doesn't even do much PK in TOR, move him for scraps
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14 juill. 2021 à 16 h 24
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For the record, I know I'm very slightly above the cap, but find a way to save those few bucks
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Consider me surprised if DET accepts that. I just don't see the incentive for them.
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14 juill. 2021 à 16 h 26
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Consider me surprised if DET accepts that. I just don't see the incentive.


For a second liner? A 2 B- prospects, a first and a 3rd isn't enough? That's pretty crazy. Or if they want Amirov, then the package is just him plus the first. That's it
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For a second liner? A 2 B- prospects, a first and a 3rd isn't enough? That's pretty crazy. Or if they want Amirov, then the package is just him plus the first. That's it


Knowing Yzerman, he's going to have something amazing going for Bertuzzi. Like he did with Mantha.

The assets offered here are ok, but still pretty meh and they don't really fill a certain need.

Amirov+1st sounds much closer to the truth.

Note, I'm not saying the value is inherently bad. I'm saying that Yzerman is likely going to get a better offer.
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14 juill. 2021 à 16 h 30
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Abramov out and amirov in
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14 juill. 2021 à 16 h 35
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I think Toronto Fans undervalue Bertuzzi and Detroit fans don't want to have to go out and buy another jersey. I think your probably one of the closer deals I have seen. I think maybe a little more greasing.. not much, could seal this.
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14 juill. 2021 à 16 h 36
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Nope one again Yzerman wants a high impact winger for Bertuzzi, So without Robertson coming back Yzerman looks elsewhere. There're as many as 7 to 8 other teams that have interest in Bertuzzi Toronto isn't the only one in on him.
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I think Toronto Fans undervalue Bertuzzi and Detroit fans don't want to have to go out and buy another jersey. I think your probably one of the closer deals I have seen. I think maybe a little more greasing.. not much, could seal this.


I just don't understand why DET would move him TBH. Not like they have 1000 wingers in the pipeline
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14 juill. 2021 à 16 h 40
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
For a second liner? A 2 B- prospects, a first and a 3rd isn't enough? That's pretty crazy. Or if they want Amirov, then the package is just him plus the first. That's it

I’d do Amirov + first rounder.

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I just don't understand why DET would move him TBH. Not like they have 1000 wingers in the pipeline

They currently have Vrana, Zadina, and Fabbri who are on the roster. Fabbri could be potentially move via TDL since he’s a UFA. In the pipeline they have Berggren and Raymond as solid winger prospects plus a bunch of mid tier wingers. I’d also argue wingers are the easiest to replace and we’re potentially getting another 1-2 this draft.
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I’d do Amirov + first rounder.


They currently have Vrana, Zadina, and Fabbri who are on the roster. Fabbri could be potentially move via TDL since he’s a UFA. In the pipeline they have Berggren and Raymond as solid winger prospects plus a bunch of mid tier wingers. I’d also argue wingers are the easiest to replace and we’re potentially getting another 1-2 this draft.


You should either draft a LD of Wallstedt tho
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You should either draft a LD of Wallstedt tho

I’m not a huge top 5/10 pick on a goalie fan. For me to like the move it would have to involve trading back a couple positions (8-9) and acquiring their second rounder in the process or a little more. Either way I have a good tier of players that I’d like to get (some more so than others). Eklund may be redundant but there’s an outside shot he can switch back to center. The top 4 defensemen I like. Guenther looks good and even McTavish offers something we don’t have.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
You should either draft a LD of Wallstedt tho


Yup they should, Edvinsson, Hughes or Wallstedt should be the pick 100% if they all go take McTavish
14 juill. 2021 à 16 h 56
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Nope one again Yzerman wants a high impact winger for Bertuzzi, So without Robertson coming back Yzerman looks elsewhere. There're as many as 7 to 8 other teams that have interest in Bertuzzi Toronto isn't the only one in on him.

Kings are one of them

Let’s see your trade from LA
14 juill. 2021 à 17 h 8
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Kings are one of them

Let’s see your trade from LA


Yzerman will want one of Kaliyev/Kupari and the Kings #8 pick for Bertuzzi. And doubtful Rob Blake does it.
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Yzerman will want one of Kaliyev/Kupari and the Kings #8 pick for Bertuzzi. And doubtful Rob Blake does it.


I can live with Kupari. Kaliyev isn’t getting traded. 8OA is also a bit rich considering bertuzzi isn’t elite and the kings will save that pick for a package for an elite player. I can see 2022 lottery protected. Plus another asset or 2

Bertuzzi will be a bidding war and the kings can easily make the trade with DET.
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I can live with Kupari. Kaliyev isn’t getting traded. 8OA is also a bit rich considering bertuzzi isn’t elite and the kings will save that pick for a package for an elite player. I can see 2022 lottery protected. Plus another asset

Bertuzzi will be a bidding war and the kings can easily make the trade with DET.

What prospect would you add to that lottery protected first? Or a list of prospects you’d feel is fair value wise.
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I can live with Kupari. Kaliyev isn’t getting traded. 8OA is also a bit rich considering bertuzzi isn’t elite and the kings will save that pick for a package for an elite player. I can see 2022 lottery protected. Plus another asset or 2

Bertuzzi will be a bidding war and the kings can easily make the trade with DET.


How about Kupari and the Kings 2021/.2022 LAs choice 2nd round pick for Bertuzzi? That should be more then fair
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How about Kupari and the Kings 2021/.2022 LAs choice 2nd round pick for Bertuzzi? That should be more then fair

Kupari and 2nd?

Yes that’s absolutely fair
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What prospect would you add to that lottery protected first? Or a list of prospects you’d feel is fair value wise.

Madden I would add
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Kupari and 2nd?

Yes that’s absolutely fair


This is a trade that i can see Yzerman 100% doing, And i hope he's talking to Rob Blake. from what i'm seeing LA could be the front runner for Tyler Bertuzzi.
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Madden I would add


Moverare?
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Moverare?

I’ve been waiting for this kid just like Kupari. Idk if I’d add moverare but I can see if he needs to be added
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
This is a trade that i can see Yzerman 100% doing, And i hope he's talking to Rob Blake. from what i'm seeing LA could be the front runner for Tyler Bertuzzi.

According to hoven kings would like to move up in the draft apparently…

Detroit: Tyler Bertuzzi, forward

If the two Hall of Fame players turned GMs were to connect on a deal this summer, Bertuzzi should absolutely be the player involved. A 26-year-old left wing who plays with energy and aggression, he also puts up points. Some might say he’s a poor man’s Matthew Tkachuk. And that’s a high compliment. We first suggested the idea of Bertuzzi to LA several months ago on Kings Of The Podcast and we’re back to double down on the idea. He’s a Restricted Free Agent (RFA) this summer with the Red Wings and is eligible to become a UFA next summer, so the price won’t be peanuts. However, as noted, GM Rob Blake has plenty of assets at his disposal. Add in the fact the Kings would like to move up in the Draft next week (more on that in a separate article), and the idea becomes even more intriguing, as Steve Yzerman is Blake’s most likely trade partner among the seven teams slotted to pick ahead of him. So think big and put a package together that gets LA the two things they’re looking for this summer. It’s possible if you get creative. This would be one of my top three targets.
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