Bertuzzi trade value is the equivalent of 1st and 2nd round pick and salary of about $4M

Awful for the wings

??? why, people state value 1st & 2nd... I added Chiarot and Peohling each as a value of a 2nd = 1st, 3x2nd in value

Chiarot is a rental and holds no value for the Wings.

I doubt the rest is sufficient to start the talks.

Detroit have no reason to trade Bertuzzi so to get him you have to make an offer that can't be refused.

What you're missing is this:

Detroit does not have to trade Bertuzzi.

Bertuzzi have not asked for a trade.

Detroit have not put Bertuzzi on the block.

This is you trying to trade for a player Detroit doesn't want to lose.

that's why I am paying more... extra 2nd value's

A 1st and a decent prospect or a good young player and a pick. I can't see him moving for a so so prospect and like 3 bottom 6 players like we see alot on here

Chiarot is Top4 D
Harris and Poehling are not A+ but Good NHL ready prospect
+1st.... should be fair in my opinion

Wings fans preach to rebuild yet when a offer of a 1st and a 2nd come sup for a 26 year old RFA coming off a major injury they think it's a bad offer. It don't make sense

Pick is #30 , poehling is basically looking like a bust at this point , chiarot is a ufa in a year and harris is a?

Starts with a guhle or 2022 1st for me

Dude let's be realistic here Chiarot is a 30 year old pending UFA he holds 0 value to Detroit. Poehling has been meh at best he's not an upgrade in our bottom 6 Harris doesn't cut it. I'm sorry without Kotkaniemi in the deal the Habs just don't have the pieces to land Tyler Bertuzzi none of those pieces remotely entice us to move Bertuzzi.

Detroit passes, The value just isn't there for Bertuzzi.

OK then, Lehkonen, Norlinder and 2022 1st

Nope once again Lehkonen is a bottom 6 player, Yzerman isn't moving Bertuzzi for a lesser player. I mean Lehkonen is definitely an upgrade on our bottom 6 but he's not the kind of player Yzerman is going to move his 2nd best player for. We need scoring desperately losing Bertuzzi is going to hurt without having a similar player like Bert back. Yzerman has said that Bertuzzi isn't getting moved without a younger scoring winger coming back in the deal.

and we are not giving you Caufield

Like i stated in another thread, Without Kotkaniemi coming back for Bertuzzi. Montreal doesn't have the necessary pieces to land Bertuzzi. And that's just pure fact.

This ones a good offer, lehk is a useful guy, a 1st and norlinder is a pretty good prospect.