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Looking to Move Allen

Créé par: GoHabsGo99
Date de création initiale: jui 12, 2021
Publié: 12 jui à 23 h 04
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
A few potential fits here...any other teams looking for a 1B goalie?
Transactions
MTL
  1. 2021 1e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. 2021 2e round pick (MTL)
  3. 2021 2e round pick (TBL)
MTL
  1. Meier, Timo
Détails additionnels:
More to this trade of course...Meier's QO could potentially bring the price down a bit...
SJS
    Allen+
    MTL
    1. 2021 2e round pick (BOS)
    BUF
      Allen
      Rachats de contrats
      • Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $
      ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
      2021
      MTL
      EDM
      BOS
      CHI
      WSH
      MTL
      STL
      VGK
      PHI
      MTL
      MTL
      2022
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      2023
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      1581 500 000 $70 551 370 $597 561 $1 475 000 $10 948 630 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      MTL
      Toffoli, Tyler
      4 250 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
      MTL
      Suzuki, Nick
      863 333 $
      C, AD
      RFA - 1
      MTL
      Gallagher, Brendan
      6 500 000 $
      AD
      NMC NTC
      UFA - 6
      MTL
      Byron, Paul
      3 400 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      MTL
      Evans, Jake
      750 000 $
      C, AD
      RFA - 1
      MTL
      Anderson, Josh
      5 500 000 $
      AD
      NTC
      UFA - 6
      SJS
      Meier, Timo
      6 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 2
      MTL
      Caufield, Cole
      880 833 $
      AD, C
      RFA - 2
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      MTL
      Edmundson, Joel
      3 500 000 $
      DG
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      MTL
      Weber, Shea
      7 857 143 $
      DD
      UFA - 5
      MTL
      Price, Carey
      10 500 000 $
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      MTL
      Chiarot, Ben
      3 500 000 $
      DG
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      MTL
      Petry, Jeff
      6 250 000 $
      DD
      NMC NTC
      UFA - 4
      MTL
      Kulak, Brett
      1 850 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      MTL
      Romanov, Alexander
      894 167 $
      DG/DD
      RFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      MTL
      Drouin, Jonathan
      5 500 000 $
      AG
      NTC
      UFA - 2

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      12 jui à 23 h 07
      #1
      Hire Dusty Imoo
      Rejoint: mai 2021
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      I mean if the Ducks are looking to move Gibson or Sharks looking to move jones or get a back up for him, then hey why not!
      12 jui à 23 h 08
      #2
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      Plenty of teams. All get them for free in ufa.

      Pick 33 for Allen from the worst team in the league...
      12 jui à 23 h 08
      #3
      Rejoint: fév 2021
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      I dont understand why Meier would be involved in an allen trade lmao. They are nowhere near the same level of player. I also think we could probably get another/better goalie elsewhere
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      12 jui à 23 h 09
      #4
      Deaner37
      Rejoint: oct 2020
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      Yea no. Hard decline on the oilers side. You think far too highly on Allan that is clear aha. A first round pick would get you someone like John Gibson. Not a jake Allan. And why would we trade the 19th overall for 2 late 30s picks?
      12 jui à 23 h 13
      #5
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      Quoting: Deaner37
      Yea no. Hard decline on the oilers side. You think far too highly on Allan that is clear aha. A first round pick would get you someone like John Gibson. Not a jake Allan. And why would we trade the 19th overall for 2 late 30s picks?


      Late 60's lol
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      12 jui à 23 h 17
      #6
      Démarrer sujet
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      Quoting: Riley816
      Plenty of teams. All get them for free in ufa.

      Pick 33 for Allen from the worst team in the league...


      thats actually the Boston pick
      12 jui à 23 h 17
      #7
      Rejoint: jui 2019
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      Quoting: Deaner37
      Yea no. Hard decline on the oilers side. You think far too highly on Allan that is clear aha. A first round pick would get you someone like John Gibson. Not a jake Allan. And why would we trade the 19th overall for 2 late 30s picks?


      A 1st + Broberg doesn’t land you Gibson get a grip
      12 jui à 23 h 19
      #8
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      Quoting: Letsgosharks
      I dont understand why Meier would be involved in an allen trade lmao. They are nowhere near the same level of player. I also think we could probably get another/better goalie elsewhere


      possible very expensive QO coming up...who is better that is interested in SJ?
      12 jui à 23 h 20
      #9
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      Quoting: Deaner37
      Yea no. Hard decline on the oilers side. You think far too highly on Allan that is clear aha. A first round pick would get you someone like John Gibson. Not a jake Allan. And why would we trade the 19th overall for 2 late 30s picks?


      you think quite lowly of Gibson!
      12 jui à 23 h 20
      #10
      Rejoint: fév 2021
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      Quoting: GoHabsGo99
      possible very expensive QO coming up...who is better that is interested in SJ?


      I had no idea Allen was interested in SJ tbh but idk
      12 jui à 23 h 20
      #11
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      Quoting: Letsgosharks
      I had no idea Allen was interested in SJ tbh but idk


      he doesnt have a choice lol
      12 jui à 23 h 22
      #12
      Rejoint: fév 2021
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      Quoting: GoHabsGo99
      he doesnt have a choice lol


      okay but Im not saying Allen is a bad option for the sharks but timo meier would just never be included in that trade
      12 jui à 23 h 31
      #13
      Rejoint: aoû 2019
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      LOL what. How about a third lol, lets temper expectations for your backup goalie your losing for free
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      12 jui à 23 h 34
      #14
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      Quoting: papishark
      LOL what. How about a third lol, lets temper expectations for your backup goalie your losing for free


      Allen at 4.35M on is last year was worth a 3rd
      Allen after a really good season with MTL and the next 2 years at 2.85M is worth definitely more than a 3rd round pick
      Not a 1st, but somewhere between
      12 jui à 23 h 36
      #15
      Rejoint: aoû 2019
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      Quoting: GMs
      Allen at 4.35M on is last year was worth a 3rd
      Allen after a really good season with MTL and the next 2 years at 2.85M is worth definitely more than a 3rd round pick
      Not a 1st, but somewhere between


      Then you probably just lose him. Hes fine but there equally good options on the UFA market and MTL is going to lose him anyways. No ones giving you serious value in this year and Meiers name shouldnt even be whispered in the same deal.
      12 jui à 23 h 48
      #16
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      Quoting: papishark
      Then you probably just lose him. Hes fine but there equally good options on the UFA market and MTL is going to lose him anyways. No ones giving you serious value in this year and Meiers name shouldnt even be whispered in the same deal.


      Obviously Meier is the better player and I don't think that the intension was for the focus to be on Allen as the main peice. I think what was meant was Allen + what = Meier? Thinking the starting point would be 2022 1st top 10 protected + Allen + Brook or a similar prospect at a position of need for the sharks. I think that was GMs intention here.
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      12 jui à 23 h 54
      #17
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      Quoting: Campabee
      Obviously Meier is the better player and I don't think that the intension was for the focus to be on Allen as the main peice. I think what was meant was Allen + what = Meier? Thinking the starting point would be 2022 1st top 10 protected + Allen + Brook or a similar prospect at a position of need for the sharks. I think that was GMs intention here.


      i thought that was obvious lol
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      13 jui à 0 h 14
      #18
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      Quoting: GoHabsGo99
      i thought that was obvious lol


      Apparently not judging by the Sharks fans comments lol
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      13 jui à 0 h 15
      #19
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      Quoting: GoHabsGo99
      i thought that was obvious lol


      Personally I wouldnt move Meier without a legitimate top prospect coming back, and if Meier is traded, it means its a blowup so Allen is useless to a team trying to lose.

      Any Allen deal would take place in a separate universe than a Meier trade is what im saying.
      13 jui à 0 h 57
      #20
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      Quoting: papishark
      Personally I wouldnt move Meier without a legitimate top prospect coming back, and if Meier is traded, it means its a blowup so Allen is useless to a team trying to lose.

      Any Allen deal would take place in a separate universe than a Meier trade is what im saying.


      All I (me) was saying is Allen is worth more than a 3rd round pick lol
      13 jui à 1 h 08
      #21
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      Quoting: McSchleep
      I mean if the Ducks are looking to move Gibson or Sharks looking to move jones or get a back up for him, then hey why not!


      Actually there are rumors circulating that the sharks are looking to buyout Jones. Not sure how true they are but they are out there. See link.

      https://www.thefourthperiod.com/jul-202/sharks-to-buy-out-jones
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      13 jui à 10 h 03
      #22
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      Quoting: GoHabsGo99
      possible very expensive QO coming up...who is better that is interested in SJ?


      For the millionth time around here, the QO means literally nothing in terms of trade value. View Meier as having 2 years to UFA rather than 2 years to RFA. He's either going to be locked up long-term before the QO is required or he is going to be a UFA.
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