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Working through latest rumors

Créé par: sound_arguments
Date de création initiale: jui 12, 2021
Publié: 12 jui à 21 h 39
Équipe: 2021-22 Blackhawks de Chicago
Explications
Bowman will make a few big moves before they chase him out of the league! I'm trying here to see what it might look like to take on Fleury's cap hit and trade for Jones. If the Jones return is not sufficient, I'd throw Mitchell in instead of Beaudin. I can't believe Bowman's interested in Fleury -- he said he wanted to weaponize cap space but it's hard to see Vegas paying someone to take a Vezina winner off their hands. I went down the middle with that one . . .
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Gaudette, Adam21 000 000 $
Hagel, Brandon21 300 000 $
Nylander, Alexander21 000 000 $
Kämpf, David21 400 000 $
Suter, Pius22 000 000 $
Zadorov, Nikita24 500 000 $
Transactions
CHI
  1. Jones, Seth
CBJ
  1. Strome, Dylan
  2. Beaudin, Nicolas
  3. 2022 1e round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Fleury, Marc-André (3 500 000 $ retained)
VGK
  1. Subban, Malcolm
  2. 2022 3e round pick (VGK)
CHI
    SEA
    1. Kämpf, David
    Détails additionnels:
    Expansion pick
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Olli Määttä: 750 108 $ (18%)
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    CHI
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    CHI
    VAN
    CHI
    CHI
    FLA
    2022
    CHI
    CHI
    EDM
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    2023
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
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    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    CHI
    DeBrincat, Alex
    6 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    CHI
    Toews, Jonathan
    10 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Kane, Patrick
    10 500 000 $
    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Kubalik, Dominik
    3 700 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Dach, Kirby
    925 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Gaudette, Adam
    1 000 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Hagel, Brandon
    1 300 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 3
    CHI
    Suter, Pius
    2 000 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Nylander, Alexander
    1 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Reichel, Lukas
    925 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 3
    CHI
    Carpenter, Ryan
    1 000 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Kurashev, Philipp
    842 500 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Borgström, Henrik
    1 000 000 $
    C
    RFA - 2
    CHI
    Connolly, Brett
    3 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    CHI
    Jones, Caleb
    850 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    CBJ
    Jones, Seth
    5 400 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    VGK
    Fleury, Marc-André
    3 500 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Zadorov, Nikita
    4 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Murphy, Connor
    3 850 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Lankinen, Kevin
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    G
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Stillman, Riley
    1 350 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 3
    CHI
    Mitchell, Ian
    925 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    CHI
    Kalynuk, Wyatt
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    De Haan, Calvin
    4 550 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    CHI
    Seabrook, Brent
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    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    Shaw, Andrew
    3 900 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1

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    12 jui à 21 h 41
    #1
    Rejoint: avr 2018
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    Still have to do something with DeHahn, I'd think . . . . or maybe find a way to move Connolly. Maybe send him to Vegas instead of keeping salary. They could also put Seabrook on LTIR instead of Shaw, which would make space to take on another bad contract.
    12 jui à 21 h 42
    #2
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    Any trade involving basically giving MAF away to relieve cap will mean there won't be much if any retention. Vegas needs the cap space and the sole reason for them giving MAF up.

    Without an extension, I think this is fairly accurate for Jones albeit might be Mitchell instead of Beaudin IMO which has more value to Colombus.

    IMO Suter is a center and proven himself to be a solid 3C which is the reason we can move Strome.

    Sign Hinostroza, a line of Hagel - Suter - Hino would be a very solid 3rd line.

    Borgstrom is a big TBD guy.

    Stillman and Kalynuk are both 3rd liners at this point and Zadarov isn't much more. Therein lies the problem, Hawks need an upgrade on the left side more then the right. We need to pry Lindholm out of Anaheim and forget MAF and find a way to move Connolly.
    12 jui à 21 h 46
    #3
    exo2769
    Rejoint: jui 2015
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Any trade involving basically giving MAF away to relieve cap will mean there won't be much if any retention. Vegas needs the cap space and the sole reason for them giving MAF up.

    Without an extension, I think this is fairly accurate for Jones albeit might be Mitchell instead of Beaudin IMO which has more value to Colombus.

    IMO Suter is a center and proven himself to be a solid 3C which is the reason we can move Strome.

    Sign Hinostroza, a line of Hagel - Suter - Hino would be a very solid 3rd line.


    Wasn't Stone recently bought out and then signed again by CGY? Vegas as buy out Flower and them sign him again.
    12 jui à 21 h 57
    #4
    Rejoint: fév 2016
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    Pro tip: if your Seth Jones trade proposal involves Dylan Strome in any capacity, it's a near-guaranteed failure. He's worthless to us.
    12 jui à 22 h 07
    #5
    Chicago
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    Hawks definitely need to add an LD as well. They don't have a top pair LD.
    12 jui à 22 h 08
    #6
    Démarrer sujet
    Rejoint: avr 2018
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    Quoting: Viqsi
    Pro tip: if your Seth Jones trade proposal involves Dylan Strome in any capacity, it's a near-guaranteed failure. He's worthless to us.


    I keep hearing the Jackets desire centers. Incidentally, so does Buffalo--if they move Eichel--and Columbus has been rumored to be in on Eichel. I can imagine Strome winding up with the Sabres.
    12 jui à 22 h 11
    #7
    Rejoint: mai 2015
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    Is Toews coming back? Anyone confirm this officially or are all these AGMs with him just wishful thinking?
    12 jui à 22 h 14
    #8
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    Quoting: F50marco
    Is Toews coming back? Anyone confirm this officially or are all these AGMs with him just wishful thinking?


    He announced he's coming back and sat down with reporters. Looks like all systems go. However, he does apparently have some weird immune response thing (that he thinks is related to being a long-haul Covid sufferer) that makes it questionable. He could come back for a week and then disappear again . . .
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    12 jui à 22 h 19
    #9
    Rejoint: mai 2015
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    Quoting: sound_arguments
    He announced he's coming back and sat down with reporters. Looks like all systems go. However, he does apparently have some weird immune response thing (that he thinks is related to being a long-haul Covid sufferer) that makes it questionable. He could come back for a week and then disappear again . . .


    Oh ok dang i must have missed that. Yeah i think the want is there but we'll need to see video of him on ice first. That long after dealing with that illness makes me question it. He may want to but his body may not be up to snuff especially if covid messed him up. A 30+ player without the lung capacity anymore???? Thats tough for an athlete.

    We'll have to wait and see i guess.
    12 jui à 22 h 24
    #10
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    Quoting: F50marco
    Oh ok dang i must have missed that. Yeah i think the want is there but we'll need to see video of him on ice first. That long after dealing with that illness makes me question it. He may want to but his body may not be up to snuff especially if covid messed him up. A 30+ player without the lung capacity anymore???? Thats tough for an athlete.

    We'll have to wait and see i guess.


    there was some good coverage on the Athletic, if you get that. His symptoms were more fatigue-oriented than lungs . . . but I've heard commenters also comparing those symptoms to concussion or tau-protein related things (which he has a history with), so who knows.
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    12 jui à 22 h 27
    #11
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    Quoting: sound_arguments
    there was some good coverage on the Athletic, if you get that. His symptoms were more fatigue-oriented than lungs . . . but I've heard commenters also comparing those symptoms to concussion or tau-protein related things (which he has a history with), so who knows.


    Oh ok. No I dont have the Athletic so I had no clue.

    If thats the case then hopefully he does come back healthy. I still think at his age, after that long and coming back to live up to a 10.5M contracts will be a heck of a task for him.
    12 jui à 22 h 31
    #12
    Rejoint: fév 2016
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    Quoting: sound_arguments
    I keep hearing the Jackets desire centers. Incidentally, so does Buffalo--if they move Eichel--and Columbus has been rumored to be in on Eichel. I can imagine Strome winding up with the Sabres.

    "The Jackets need centers" is an oversimplification. What we need is either a heavy-minutes-munching top-6 defensive type who can shelter Roslovic and Domi and Foudy and Texier, OR an actual #1C. Strome is neither of these, and indeed is arguably worse than what we already have.
     
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