Today is the day teams ask players to waive NMC

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Créé par: NHLfan10506

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Date de création initiale: 12 juill. 2021

Publié: 12 juill. 2021

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Here is the upcoming schedule for NHL.

Jul 12-13: Teams to ask players to waive NMC
Jul 16: Deadline for players to waive NMC
Jul 16: Last day to put buyout candidates on waivers
Jul 17: Teams protection lists submitted to league
Jul 17-22: Roster freeze in effect (no moves, no trades) (3pm July 17 to 1pm on July 22)
Jul 18: Protection lists made public
Jul 18-20: Seattle window to interview unprotected players
Jul 21: Seattle Expansion Draft
Jul 23-24: NHL Entry Draft
Jul 27: Qualifying offers to RFAs
Jul 28: NHL free agency begins at noon
Sep 22: Training camp begins
Oct 12: 2021-22 season begins

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If you want to know who waived and who didn't in 2017, look here: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2397870

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Any updates that I am missing?

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SEA

Lucic, Milan

CGY

Waived NMC, does not have to be protected

(Note - these are not trades or expansion selections. This is just a list of teams/players who have NMC decisions to make)

SEA

Johnson, Erik

COL

Has not waived yet, but is expected to per numerous media reports

SEA

MIN

None have waived yet, but Guerin is expected to ask two of them to waive this week.

SEA

Bishop, Ben

DAL

Will not be asked for waive. This is means that Khudobin is likely exposed (or traded)

SEA

Skinner, Jeff

BUF

Latest I saw was that the Sabres have yet to discuss with Skinner

SEA

Keith, Duncan

CHI

Likely to waive. It had earlier been reported he would waive for a trade to team in pacific northwest. Not totally clear if he waives before expansion draft though.

SEA

Yandle, Keith

FLA

Sounds like he will be asked to waive

SEA

Kreider, Chris

NYR

It does not appear he will be asked to waive

SEA

SJS

Have seen nothing on these two yet

10.

SEA

Wheeler, Blake

WPG

I have no seen anything other than speculation

11.

SEA

Coyle, Charlie

BOS

Only speculation

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
16	81 500 000 $	92 580 129 $	0 $	750 000 $	-11 080 129 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Lucic, Milan 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2		Wheeler, Blake 8 250 000 $8 250 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 3
Parise, Zach 750 000 $750 000 $ (750 000 $$750K) AG UFA - 1	Coyle, Charlie 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Zuccarello, Mats 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 3
Skinner, Jeff 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 6
Kreider, Chris 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 6

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Johnson, Erik 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2		Bishop, Ben 4 916 667 $4 916 667 $ G M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Suter, Ryan 3 650 000 $3 650 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 4
Spurgeon, Jared 7 575 000 $7 575 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6
Brodin, Jonas 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 7
Keith, Duncan 5 538 462 $5 538 462 $ DG NMC UFA - 2
Yandle, Keith 900 000 $900 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 1
Karlsson, Erik 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DG/DD NMC UFA - 5

12 juill. 2021 à 9 h 33

Devil

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Damn the Wild go crazy with the NMC

12 juill. 2021 à 9 h 42

Clement

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Have no idea why the heck you put Jonas brodin, Jared spurgeon on here. They aren't being asked to waive, neither is Zuccarello.

Like i get it, it's a list but still very clearly shows people don't watch wild. Jared spurgeon, & jonas brodin are two of the top dman in the NHL. Zuccarello is coming off an amazing season, & specifically wanted Nmc for these reason

By the way Guerin made it clear he's not going to disrespect players by asking them to waive .

12 juill. 2021 à 9 h 45

Ledge_And_Dairy

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This may just be a hot take but I think EK65 may waive and end up going to Seattle. He was very vocal a little while back about not wanting to go through a rebuild and I think it's very difficult for San Jose to avoid one now.

12 juill. 2021 à 9 h 59

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

If I'm Seattle I don't take him even if he is available. He's 31... he's past his prime and getting paid 11.5M for the next 6 seasons.

I like EK but he's not worth 11.5M until he's age 37. I think he'd get under 7M on a 6 year contract if he was in free agency this season.

12 juill. 2021 à 10 h 10

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Depends on the package they get since SJ would probably have to add something. Also plenty of players (especially defense) play well into their mid-late 30's. They will need a team leader and PPQB.

12 juill. 2021 à 10 h 14

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Quoting: Clement

Obviously the two guys they are talking about are Parise and Suter. I think any readers would arrive at that conclusion. But all the reports I have seen have said “two will be asked” without naming the two. So I followed what has been said already.

12 juill. 2021 à 10 h 17

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If players waive NMC for the draft, does it permanently remove the NMC from their contract or just for the draft?

12 juill. 2021 à 10 h 17

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Quoting: Jiannuccilli

If players waive NMC for the draft, does it permanently remove the NMC from their contract or just for the draft?

Just for the draft

12 juill. 2021 à 10 h 18

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Depends on the package they get since SJ would probably have to add something. Also plenty of players (especially defense) play well into their mid-late 30's. They will need a team leader and PPQB.

I think it would be shrewd move if Francis went for “win now” team. Dunno what it would cost. Last time I asked about Karlsson from Sharks fans, they expected positive return, but very small. Some said they would do Subban for Karlsson straight up.

12 juill. 2021 à 10 h 19

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Quoting: Jiannuccilli

If players waive NMC for the draft, does it permanently remove the NMC from their contract or just for the draft?

Yes. It is unlike waiving for trade, which could be one-time thing.

For expansion draft, once you waive, that clause is gone forever.

12 juill. 2021 à 10 h 24

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Yes. It is unlike waiving for trade, which could be one-time thing.

For expansion draft, once you waive, that clause is gone forever.

No thats not true, you choose exactly what you waive for, and if you are traded to another team/selected in the draft you now keep the NMC

12 juill. 2021 à 10 h 33

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

No thats not true, you choose exactly what you waive for, and if you are traded to another team/selected in the draft you now keep the NMC

You make amendments to your contract and the league evaluates each contract. If they view your NMC as surviving afterwards, they will say player must be protected.

It is not a one-time thing.

12 juill. 2021 à 10 h 38

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Quoting: Gmonwy

Just for the draft

That is not quite right.
This is not like a player waiving once for a trade to pass.
They have to waive the clause altogether.

If a player signs an amendment this week that waives for next month, but that NMC kicks back in next season, the NHL would rule that contract as one with NMC protection and say it needs to be protected.
It would be the same as any player that did not have NMC this year, but has NMC next year.

12 juill. 2021 à 10 h 43

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EK65 won’t be asked I don’t think. Vlasic should be but stated publically he has no plans to leave and I don’t think he realizes he’s bad. Not that the sharks have anyone to protect anyways but we could go 8-1 if he did

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12 juill. 2021 à 10 h 51

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

You make amendments to your contract and the league evaluates each contract. If they view your NMC as surviving afterwards, they will say player must be protected.

It is not a one-time thing.

No, a player with a NMC has full control over what they waive for and when. For example Lucic already waived his NMC for the upcoming expansion draft so that Calgary can protect another player instead. That does not mean Calgary can just go and trade Lucic though, he specifically only waived for the expansion draft.

12 juill. 2021 à 11 h 33

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

If it is in the contract that a NMC will return (or first appear) for 2021-22 season, he has to be protected.

12 juill. 2021 à 12 h 14

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

If it is in the contract that a NMC will return (or first appear) for 2021-22 season, he has to be protected.

That has nothing to do with what I was saying

12 juill. 2021 à 12 h 26

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

That has nothing to do with what I was saying

Oh, I'm sorry. I must have misread what you were saying.

I thought you were saying that a player could waive NMC for rest of 2020-21 season (ie, expansion draft) and reclaim their NMC clause for 2021-22 season. If their contract were amended that way, it would be treated the same as any player who has NMC first appearing in 2021-22. And they would need protection.

With Lucic, if he waives for expansion, he would be waiving 2021-22 NMC protection. Not 2020-21.

12 juill. 2021 à 12 h 28

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I am fairly certain he can waive specifically for the expansion and still have the clause for 21-22. If not can you show me the part of the CBA that says its gone for the year?

12 juill. 2021 à 12 h 32

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

I am fairly certain he can waive specifically for the expansion and still have the clause for 21-22. If not can you show me the part of the CBA that says its gone for the year?

It is my understanding that they can waive NMC for 2020-21 to be put on waivers for purpose of buyout....or waive for 2021-22 and stay on roster.
I will try to dig out the specific language when I get a free minute

12 juill. 2021 à 12 h 55

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Ok well when Lucic was traded to Calgary originally his NMC was instantly placed back into effect despite him waiving it to be traded. Again I am fairly certain you can choose what you waive your NMC for and it is not as simple as "oh you waived it that means we have a year to trade you"

12 juill. 2021 à 13 h 59

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

That is true for trades.

But for expansion draft, the league has to go through every contract and determine if each have NMC protection for 2021-22. They then will release a list of players exempt from expansion draft due to the clauses in their contracts. To “waive” in this instance, a player has to sign an amendment to the contract that permanently alters that deal (no impact on Salary/AAV). Once that is done, they can be removed from exempt list.

Treated very differently than a trade.

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