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Créé par: SaskCanesFan

Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline

Date de création initiale: 9 juill. 2021

Publié: 9 juill. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

If the Canes want to take the next step to Cup contender, they need to add some more scoring punch and upgrade the bottom 6. These moves leave them with very little cap room and some tough choices to make in 2022-23, but with an improved roster that has the depth and firepower to make a Cup run. Svech and Nedjelkovic get bridge deals, pushing off the long term big $ contracts to when the Cap is hopefully rising. After the season at least one of Nino or Trochek will have to go to make room for Necas' raise, but a prospect like Jarvis or Drury should be able to step in and contribute after another year of development.

Hamilton re-signing is dependent on him liking the fit in Carolina above anywhere else, and the Canes being able to offer an 8th year to spread the money out. If he just wants the highest AAV possible it'll come from somewhere else.

Canes are taking a potential risk on Tarasenko, but for the right price I think its a high upside gamble that's worth the move. Foegele is a solid middle 6 winger right now and a good play driver looking for a bigger role that just doesn't seem to fit the Canes plans. I think Foegele, Suzuki, and a 1st is somwhat of an overpay for Tarasenko right now considering the circumstances around him being moved, so added salary retention and a Scandella for Skjei swap to balance things out and allows the Canes to make some other moves. If the Blues hate the D swap it could be eliminated but I'd probably downgrade either the pick or Suzuki in that scenario.

Nino being pushed down the chart and the addition of Tatar creates a really deep top 9 that should be able to hang with anyone. Bit of a youth movement on the 4th line, I like keeping McGinn around for the veteran presence and PK ability plus he can move up the lineup in a pinch. I like the D better with $5-6M spread out on Scandella and a Miller/Montour type instead of Skjei and a depth guy like Hakanpaa. In this scenario I got enough retention on Miller to make signing Mrazek possible, but if a person wants to save on a cheaper goalie then there's more money to spend on the D instead.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE	ANS	CAP HIT
Gunler, Noel	3	825 000 $
Honka, Anttoni	3	825 000 $
Puistola, Patrik	3	825 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Nedeljkovic, Alex	2	3 500 000 $
Geekie, Morgan	2	950 000 $
Svechnikov, Andrei	3	6 500 000 $
Bean, Jake	1	1 050 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Tatar, Tomas	3	4 250 000 $
Hamilton, Dougie	8	7 750 000 $
McGinn, Brock	2	2 250 000 $
Mrázek, Petr	2	3 250 000 $

Transactions

CAR

Expansion Draft deal to take Gardiner

SEA

Fast, Jesper
Gardiner, Jake
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)

CAR

Scandella, Marco
Tarasenko, Vladimir (1 750 000 $ retained)

STL

Foegele, Warren [Droits de RFA]
Skjei, Brady
Suzuki, Ryan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)

Détails additionnels:

Foegele is looking for an expanded role and has good underlying numbers, but the Canes need more scoring. Swapped Scandella-Skjei to help the Canes with the cap and the Blues get a bit younger

CAR

Miller, Colin (1 875 000 $ retained)

BUF

Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CAR)

Détails additionnels:

This might be a deal with Seattle instead of Buffalo depending on the expansion draft. 2nd is mainly for the high salary retention.

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20	81 500 000 $	77 548 583 $	0 $	537 500 $	3 951 417 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Teräväinen, Teuvo 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Aho, Sebastian 8 460 250 $8 460 250 $ C UFA - 3	Tarasenko, Vladimir 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AD NTC UFA - 2
Svechnikov, Andrei 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Trocheck, Vincent 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Necas, Martin 863 333 $863 333 $ (537 500 $$538K) AD RFA - 1
Niederreiter, Nino 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Staal, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 2	Tatar, Tomas 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
McGinn, Brock 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Lorentz, Steven 725 000 $725 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Geekie, Morgan 950 000 $950 000 $ C, AD RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Slavin, Jaccob 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Hamilton, Dougie 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ DD UFA - 7
Scandella, Marco 3 275 000 $3 275 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Pesce, Brett 4 025 000 $4 025 000 $ DD UFA - 3
Bean, Jake 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 3	Miller, Colin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Nedeljkovic, Alex 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 2
		Mrázek, Petr 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ G UFA - 3

9 juill. 2021 à 19 h 59

jwg314

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I would take this in a heartbeat. SEA would likely have to choose between Dunn and Skjei (they still take Dunn I think). Whoever we’re left with would be our second-pairing LD. Scandella is nice to just be rid of the contract so that leaves Tarasenko for Foegele, Suzuki and a 1st. Way more than I would expect.

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9 juill. 2021 à 20 h 1

planter5

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i like this a lot

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9 juill. 2021 à 20 h 3

SaskCanesFan

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Quoting: jwg314

Cool, good to know! Maybe I'm over rating Scandella if you'd be happy just to be rid of his contract lol. Has his play really fallen off, I thought he'd be decent in that role? Maybe a slight downgrade from Skjei and a bit older, but the cap savings facilitate other moves for the Canes which is the main thing to me.

9 juill. 2021 à 20 h 9

jwg314

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Quoting: SaskCanesFan

He’s not bad but he’s more suitable as a bottom-pairing guy and should be paid as such. Defensive-minded and can play PK.

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9 juill. 2021 à 21 h 42

ecupirate07

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Huge pass on spending that much for tarasenko or paying Seattle that much to take Gardiner and Fast.

9 juill. 2021 à 22 h 21

vikhodush

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I like the concept and really well thought out but I think including Suzuki is unnecessary in the Tara deal. Would imagine the next couple of guys just below Suzuki would still be enough.

I also don’t mind the idea of moving Skjei but would probably have a couple of other deals to move him for assets and then acquire another second pairing guy via a different trade.

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13 juill. 2021 à 14 h 58

SaskCanesFan

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Quoting: jwg314

He’s not bad but he’s more suitable as a bottom-pairing guy and should be paid as such. Defensive-minded and can play PK.

Thanks. Honestly that's not a bad thing, I think that style would fit in well with the Canes other D. Out of curiosity would you think the deal is still acceptable with Dunn in place of Scandella or not?

13 juill. 2021 à 18 h 51

SaskCanesFan

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Quoting: vikhodush

Thanks for the feedback!

Yeah I think the trade is probably an overpayment, especially considering the reaction of a Blues fan in the first comment saying he'd take it in a heartbeat. I didn't want to be a Canes homer and throw a lowball offer in though, and this way I think it kinda shows that even in a worst case, overpayment scenario the Canes system is capable of absorbing the loss. But ideally sub in someone like Rees for Suzuki or downgrade the pick to a 2nd.

As to your couple other trades idea to replace Skjei with a different second pairing guy, I don't disagree, just wonder if you have any specific names in mind? I'm sure there's probably a better combination of trades with other teams out there, I just didn't have anyone specific coming to me and had seen a Scandella/Skjei swap in another one of these mocks and liked the simplicity of it. If someone suggested a series of moves that netted out better in the end I'll gladly run another Armchair GM with those moves instead.

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13 juill. 2021 à 20 h 16

vikhodush

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Quoting: SaskCanesFan

Yeah that’s fair. In terms of trade targets maybe Graves, Gavrikov, Schmidt (would have to be the right offer since it’s a higher cap, maybe retention although they don’t want to do that on his deal or a package that clears Gardiner) or Dunn. UFAs maybe Martinez or I really like oleksiak. Suter if the price is right - think playing with Pesce would be great for him.

Fleury would’ve been a good option had we kept him honestly.

It gets complicated bc of expansion draft but I guess if you’re moving Skjei and potentially Bean you could take on a D in a trade that you’d protect.

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