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Créé par: Zekelio
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 9 juill. 2021
Publié: 9 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
My hopefull 2021 off season. It's really bold. But this habs team will be incredibile. 3 foward line complet. + a fourth line who can do a good job and 3 solid Defensive line.
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3950 000 $
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21 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 500 000 $
1800 000 $
32 950 000 $
43 350 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Killorn, Alex
Détails additionnels:
Cap dump, still get 2 picks for the draft.
TBL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (STL)
2.
MTL
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
P. 15

They send Pavel to Montreal with suzuki and caulfied ont the first line. Where in new york will probably lost is spot in a few years. ( panarin, lafrénière, kappo and others. ) he is 26 and still RFA For this last season so its a risk for montreal but could pay off.
NYR
  1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
P. 30

They send Kotkaniemie to new york, where is gonna be well rounded with good winger. ( 20 Years old still really young ). Still have 5 years of RFA, so its a risk but could pays off really good for them.
3.
MTL
  1. Patrick, Nolan [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
The flyers still get a little bit a value, because is a seconde overall pick in a recent draft but since all that happen with him is value is still low.
PHI
  1. Mysak, Jan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (WSH)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
With the lost of Kotkaniemie montreal gonna tried to get a young center with good potentiel who need a fresh start to replace him.
4.
MTL
SEA
  1. Chiarot, Ben
Détails additionnels:
Expension draft
5.
MTL
    Would be a good fit for a new team like seattle.
    SEA
    1. Byron, Paul
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
    Détails additionnels:
    Still a great player but, montreal is gonna have to dump some cap.
    6.
    MTL
    1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
    Détails additionnels:
    New start for Rasmus.
    BUF
    1. Drouin, Jonathan
    2. Kulak, Brett
    3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
    Détails additionnels:
    New start for Drouin. + Kulak solid top 6 and a 6 round pick.
    7.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (LAK)
    Détails additionnels:
    They put Weber off LTR. ( Early Retirement )
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    9 juill. 2021 à 9 h 43
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    No way.
    9 juill. 2021 à 9 h 46
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    I kind of actually like this for the Rangers (the frame work at least). Maybe add in Montreal's 2nd going to the Rangers and the Rangers 3rd going to Montreal.
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    Quoting: NYR_Mike
    No way.


    What's the problem with this ?
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    Quoting: hero9154
    I kind of actually like this for the Rangers (the frame work at least). Maybe add in Montreal's 2nd going to the Rangers and the Rangers 3rd going to Montreal.


    Yee it would work really good for both team under the circumstances and its pretty fair. And yes you could add the second of MTL for the Third of New York
    9 juill. 2021 à 9 h 56
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    Quoting: Zekelio
    What's the problem with this ?


    Rangers need a more veteran presence. Buch was also on pace to score 72 points this year in a full 82, plays on the first team PP/PK, and adds a bit of sandpaper to the lineup. There is no way that we would give him up for KK AND move back 15 spots in the draft.
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    9 juill. 2021 à 9 h 59
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    Normally when you see armchair GM teams with this many moves they're a mess... but I kind of love this?? The only thing is i am not sure MTL is trading Mysak so fast. Also Weber might still have some years left in him, not that I see him as serviceable on MTL.
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    Quoting: Zekelio
    Yee it would work really good for both team under the circumstances and its pretty fair. And yes you could add the second of MTL for the Third of New York


    this doesn't help the Rangers. year after year Buch has improved and is finally finding himself as a complete top 6 forward.
    he is interchangeable in the top 2 lines and plays both PP and PK.
    there is enough youth on the team already.

    in my opinion, if the Habs want Buch and 15th OV, they need to add more than KK and 30 OV.
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    9 juill. 2021 à 10 h 16
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    Quoting: Mike_Gartner
    this doesn't help the Rangers. year after year Buch has improved and is finally finding himself as a complete top 6 forward.
    he is interchangeable in the top 2 lines and plays both PP and PK.
    there is enough youth on the team already.

    in my opinion, if the Habs want Buch and 15th OV, they need to add more than KK and 30 OV.


    The thing is with the core of new york in the next 1-2 they are gonna need a lot of cap space to sign young talent and Buchnevich with the salary that he is gonna ask, will not really fit anymore. So New york trade for another young potential to developpe with the young you already got, and whit is salary can still get some pretty good player for the next 2-3 ont the market or free agency. I hardly see Buch stay in New york in 2-3 and this is a good value for him. But yeah i mean MTL could probably add an other youngers or pick with this.
    9 juill. 2021 à 10 h 19
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    Quoting: alex_goody
    Normally when you see armchair GM teams with this many moves they're a mess... but I kind of love this?? The only thing is i am not sure MTL is trading Mysak so fast. Also Weber might still have some years left in him, not that I see him as serviceable on MTL.


    Yes. But with is injury and 36 years old, we saw a lot of player like Zetterberg, gaborik and other just retired, and personnaly i think it would be the same with weber. But still a decent player we saw it in the playoff.
    9 juill. 2021 à 10 h 27
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    Quoting: Zekelio
    The thing is with the core of new york in the next 1-2 they are gonna need a lot of cap space to sign young talent and Buchnevich with the salary that he is gonna ask, will not really fit anymore. So New york trade for another young potential to developpe with the young you already got, and whit is salary can still get some pretty good player for the next 2-3 ont the market or free agency. I hardly see Buch stay in New york in 2-3 and this is a good value for him. But yeah i mean MTL could probably add an other youngers or pick with this.


    then they deal with it then, the last thing they need is to trade veteran presence for another kid - they have enough of those.
    9 juill. 2021 à 10 h 35
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    Quoting: alex_goody
    Normally when you see armchair GM teams with this many moves they're a mess... but I kind of love this?? The only thing is i am not sure MTL is trading Mysak so fast. Also Weber might still have some years left in him, not that I see him as serviceable on MTL.


    Oh no this is a mess for sure.

    1. Look at the top pairing D, Neither of them should be on that pairing at best they are 2nd pairing guys.
    2. IF you are getting Killorn then no need for Buch
    3. I don't think moving KK in favor of Patrick is more than a lateral move but either way you go Danault should be moved back to 3C and the kids should be given a chance at this point to take over 2C.
    4. We need more depth than a 21 man roster and NOT Staal, Merrill or Gustafsson lol.
    5. As for the trades Tampa likely accepts that, you overpaid for Risto, the Kracken likely take Chiarot based off his playoffs and everyone else rejects even Montreal on the rest of the deals.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Oh no this is a mess for sure.

    1. Look at the top pairing D, Neither of them should be on that pairing at best they are 2nd pairing guys.
    2. IF you are getting Killorn then no need for Buch
    3. I don't think moving KK in favor of Patrick is more than a lateral move but either way you go Danault should be moved back to 3C and the kids should be given a chance at this point to take over 2C.
    4. We need more depth than a 21 man roster and NOT Staal, Merrill or Gustafsson lol.
    5. As for the trades Tampa likely accepts that, you overpaid for Risto, the Kracken likely take Chiarot based off his playoffs and everyone else rejects even Montreal on the rest of the deals.


    First, you just have to put the petry line, its no biggie, second, You need 2 left handed top 6 player to replace, Drouin and Tatar and they both fit with the scheme. Third i aggree with you but the Nolan move was just because of the KK move, if he doesn't move, Nolan ain't coming to MTL. Fifth, there still 5 millions to signe dethp player to the roster for the season, 1-2 years max contract. Six, Risto is a little overpaid i agree but kulak don't have a spot ont MTL lineup anymore i thinks and it give them a little replacement. And the rest of the deal are cleary not that bad and they seem pretty fair ont the market rigth now.
    9 juill. 2021 à 11 h 12
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    First, you just have to put the petry line, its no biggie, second, You need 2 left handed top 6 player to replace, Drouin and Tatar and they both fit with the scheme. Third i aggree with you but the Nolan move was just because of the KK move, if he doesn't move, Nolan ain't coming to MTL. Fifth, there still 5 millions to signe dethp player to the roster for the season, 1-2 years max contract. Six, Risto is a little overpaid i agree but kulak don't have a spot ont MTL lineup anymore i thinks and it give them a little replacement. And the rest of the deal are cleary not that bad and they seem pretty fair ont the market rigth now.


    1. Edmundson is not top pairing quality either (even though he pretty much played there all season)
    2. Why not just keep Drouin or sign a LW FA instead of trading KK?
    3. There is no need to move KK in the first place especially with the crop of FA LW'ers available
    4. Yes you did leave 5 Mil but you didn't bring in anyone either so it was just a general comment lol
    5. Kulak is a great 7th D guy as he could fill in on either the 2nd or 3rd pairing if injuries occur. Plus instead of Signing Savard just give Fleury a shot and save cap.
    9 juill. 2021 à 11 h 20
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    This is interesting if the Rangers don’t want to commit to Buchnevich long term
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    Quoting: Zekelio
    The thing is with the core of new york in the next 1-2 they are gonna need a lot of cap space to sign young talent and Buchnevich with the salary that he is gonna ask, will not really fit anymore. So New york trade for another young potential to developpe with the young you already got, and whit is salary can still get some pretty good player for the next 2-3 ont the market or free agency. I hardly see Buch stay in New york in 2-3 and this is a good value for him. But yeah i mean MTL could probably add an other youngers or pick with this.


    We have the space, cap will be going up sooner than people think and IF needed we could trade Buch or someone else in 2-3-4 years as needed.. we aren’t desperate for an underwhelming 2/3C on a cheap contract(for good reason) just to plan for space in a few years. This just wouldn’t happen
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    Quoting: hero9154
    I kind of actually like this for the Rangers (the frame work at least). Maybe add in Montreal's 2nd going to the Rangers and the Rangers 3rd going to Montreal.


    My exact thoughts. Fox + Mika's contracts are coming up next summer, so are they gonna be able to commit to Buch long term this summer? Plus Kotkaniemi is a young center who's already had some NHL success, imagine what he'd be able to do playing next to Panarin or with his old national team teammate Kaapo Kakko.
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