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Edmonton 2022

Créé par: Theo_nollaf
Date de création initiale: jui 7, 2021
Publié: 7 jui à 15 h 23
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Explications
The Edmonton Oilers definitely have the pieces to win the cup. McDavid and Draisatl are definitely the right core for cup winning, but they have not been able to surround them with the right pieces. Obviously, a goalie is an important one, and though Mike Smith had a great year, he shouldn't be being considered the guy for the future of this team and I think Edmonton needs to do something to shore-up their goaltending long-term, similarly to what Calagary did last free agency. I have the Oilers trading for John Gibson as he's a solid starter who's only 27 and locked up long-term therefore he makes sense for Edmonton. Obviously, Gibson likes Anaheim but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be open to being traded, especially because he open happiness with Anaheim makes me think that he's just a loyal person and doesn't want to run around chasing a cup. Obviously, the price for Gibson will be high, but I have the Oilers trading Broberg (because he's the younger of their two defense prospects and thus less likely to fit the timeline), Yamamoto and their first this year (because they no longer need to select Cossa with it.). This package is pretty big, Anaheim receives a pick and two young talents and Edmonton receives stability in net. Another problem with Edmonton is their depth, or more so the lack thereof. To fix this problem, I have them going out in free agency and signing three very solid free agents in Cizikas, Galchenyuk and Drake Caggiula, though they do lose Archibald in the XD. Caggiula especially is someone whom McDavid liked and could maybe take off a leadership burden. Finally, the Oilers have been reported multiple times as being frontrunners for Duncan Keith. I understand that Oilers fans are not huge fans of this but I'm proposing to take this negative and turn it into a positive by also getting Strome in this trade, who is someone who played very well with McDavid in junior. I also have Chicago retaing that way Keith is only being payed 3 million. In exchange Edmonton only has to give up Kahun's signing rights, Caleb Jones and a third, a very fair package for the leadership and experience Keith brings to the table and Strome's upside.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Khaira, Jujhar31 350 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Larsson, Adam54 650 000 $
Cizikas, Casey42 850 000 $
Galchenyuk, Alex42 000 000 $
Caggiula, Drake2950 000 $
Transactions
EDM
  1. Gibson, John
ANA
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Yamamoto, Kailer [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2021 1e round pick (EDM)
EDM
    Expansion
    SEA
    1. Archibald, Josh
    EDM
    1. Keith, Duncan (2 538 462 $ retained)
    2. Strome, Dylan
    CHI
    1. Jones, Caleb
    2. Kahun, Dominik [Droits de RFA]
    3. 2022 3e round pick (EDM)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
    • James Neal: 1 916 667 $
    • Mikko Koskinen: 1 500 000 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    EDM
    EDM
    PIT
    EDM
    2022
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    2023
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2081 500 000 $77 151 339 $669 339 $1 250 000 $4 348 661 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    CHI
    Strome, Dylan
    3 000 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    McDavid, Connor
    12 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    EDM
    Holloway, Dylan
    925 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    RFA - 3
    EDM
    Draisaitl, Leon
    8 500 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 4
    EDM
    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    5 125 000 $
    C, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    EDM
    Puljujärvi, Jesse
    1 175 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Khaira, Jujhar
    1 350 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    Cizikas, Casey
    2 850 000 $
    C
    UFA - 6
    Galchenyuk, Alex
    2 000 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Caggiula, Drake
    950 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Turris, Kyle
    1 650 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Kassian, Zack
    3 200 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 3
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    EDM
    Nurse, Darnell
    5 600 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Bouchard, Evan
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    ANA
    Gibson, John
    6 400 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    EDM
    Klefbom, Oscar
    4 167 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Larsson, Adam
    4 650 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    EDM
    Stalock, Alex
    785 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Keith, Duncan
    3 000 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Bear, Ethan
    2 000 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    EDM
    Russell, Kris
    1 250 000 $ (125 000 $)
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    McLeod, Ryan
    834 167 $ (0 $)
    C
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Shore, Devin
    850 000 $ (0 $)
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 2

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Draisaitl, L.
    McDavid, C.
    Puljujärvi, J.
    Nurse, D.
    Holloway, D.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Strome, D.
    Nugent-Hopkins, R.
    Galchenyuk, A.
    Keith, D.
    Bouchard, E.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Cizikas, C.
    Khaira, J.
    Nurse, D.
    Bouchard, E.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Caggiula, D.
    Nugent-Hopkins, R.
    Klefbom, O.
    Larsson, A.

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    7 jui à 15 h 31
    #1
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    Edmonton declines both trades, especially the Anaheim one. Gibson has been replacement level since 2018, that's a huge overpay for a guy that isn't living up to his contract. Seriously, look at his numbers - you can get better goalies in free agency for less money and keep the 3 prime assets.
    7 jui à 15 h 49
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    First NY Then LA
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    Don't let people fool you -- Ken Holland would push a peanut with his nose from Edmonton to Anaheim on his hands and knees over broken glass to get 6 years of John Gibson.

    I think that you'd have to give us Evan Bouchard instead of Philip Broberg because we're quite set on LD and weak on RD.
    7 jui à 15 h 50
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Don't let people fool you -- Ken Holland would push a peanut with his nose from Edmonton to Anaheim on his hands and knees over broken glass to get 6 years of John Gibson.

    I think that you'd have to give us Evan Bouchard instead of Philip Broberg because we're quite set on LD and weak on RD.


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    7 jui à 15 h 51
    #4
    Pistol Pete
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    I don't think edmonton trades any one of those pieces in the gibson trade. Archibald is likely protected.
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    7 jui à 15 h 53
    #5
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    Word on the street is Kahun isnt going to be tendered, but if he is, I would take that deal.
    7 jui à 15 h 54
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Don't let people fool you -- Ken Holland would push a peanut with his nose from Edmonton to Anaheim on his hands and knees over broken glass to get 6 years of John Gibson.

    I think that you'd have to give us Evan Bouchard instead of Philip Broberg because we're quite set on LD and weak on RD.


    Of 71 goalies who played at least 1250 minutes at 5v5 since December 31, 2018, Gibson ranks 49th for SV% and 47th for HDSV%... yet he carries the 6th highest cap hit!

    tears of joy tears of joy

    http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20182019&thruseason=20202021&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=g&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=S&loc=B&toi=1250&gpfilt=gpdate&fd=2019-01-01&td=2021-05-15&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL
    7 jui à 16 h 03
    #7
    First NY Then LA
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    Quoting: CD282
    Of 71 goalies who played at least 1250 minutes at 5v5 since December 31, 2018, Gibson ranks 49th for SV% and 47th for HDSV%... yet he carries the 6th highest cap hit!

    tears of joy tears of joy

    http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20182019&thruseason=20202021&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=g&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=S&loc=B&toi=1250&gpfilt=gpdate&fd=2019-01-01&td=2021-05-15&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL


    It will be interesting to compare goalie stats between Anaheim and Edmonton in 2022. especially if Grubauer and Ullmark, the only two quality free agent goalies in this levee, escape your grasp.
    7 jui à 16 h 14
    #8
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    Quoting: CD282
    Edmonton declines both trades, especially the Anaheim one. Gibson has been replacement level since 2018, that's a huge overpay for a guy that isn't living up to his contract. Seriously, look at his numbers - you can get better goalies in free agency for less money and keep the 3 prime assets.


    I get that Gibsons stats are bad but I do think that that’s partially because he’s on a bad team. Before these past two years of Anaheim being miserable, Gibson was a top level goalie, which is what Edmonton is betting on in this trade. Even if Gibson can not reach those elite numbers again, it’s not a huge deal. Edmonton doesn’t need a world beater, they just need a solid goalie to with around 30-35 wins, 910 SVP and 2.5 GAA.
    7 jui à 16 h 16
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    It will be interesting to compare goalie stats between Anaheim and Edmonton in 2022. especially if Grubauer and Ullmark, the only two quality free agent goalies in this levee, escape your grasp.


    Nice deflection.
    7 jui à 16 h 17
    #10
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    Quoting: Theo_nollaf
    I get that Gibsons stats are bad but I do think that that’s partially because he’s on a bad team. Before these past two years of Anaheim being miserable, Gibson was a top level goalie, which is what Edmonton is betting on in this trade. Even if Gibson can not reach those elite numbers again, it’s not a huge deal. Edmonton doesn’t need a world beater, they just need a solid goalie to with around 30-35 wins, 910 SVP and 2.5 GAA.


    Why on earth would they give up THREE A+ assets for a $6.4M goalie that they HOPE will give them average results??? That's the stupidest thing I've read all week.
     
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