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Créé par: mac11_716
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 4 juill. 2021
Publié: 5 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
67 500 000 $
31 500 000 $
31 500 000 $
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
34 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 500 000 $
1850 000 $
32 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
  2. Glass, Cody
  3. Krebs, Peyton
  4. Tuch, Alex
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Fleury flipped to another team while retaining salary
VGK
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Thompson, Tage
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (COL)
2.
BUF
  1. Légaré, Nathan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
Détails additionnels:
Buffalo retains $3.5m
3.
BUF
  1. Määttä, Olli
  2. Vilardi, Gabriel
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Reinhart, Sam
  2. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
4.
BUF
SEA
  1. Eakin, Cody
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Expansion
5.
BUF
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
6.
BUF
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
7.
ARI
  1. Bjork, Anders
  2. Miller, Colin
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
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2021
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2022
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Logo de TBL
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $56 479 749 $113 916 $2 550 000 $25 020 251 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 050 000 $3 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 533 333 $1 533 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
889 166 $889 166 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
900 000 $900 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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5 juill. 2021 à 12 h 14
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Nice if focusing on picks, but lacking in some positions.
5 juill. 2021 à 12 h 24
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Wasn't the original ask something along the lines of 4 x 1sts (Or something equal to that?).

Let's play a fun game of "What the player's value in terms of draft picks":

Krebs (1st)
Glass (1st...value may have dropped, but still a very cheap, young roster player with a bunch of years of control left that has plenty of upside)
Tuch (1st+2nd or 3rd, or 1st+decent prospect?)
MAF (I'd say 1st, based on the whole Vezina thing this year, but given the 1 year of control/his age, let's say a 2nd?)
2 x 1st.

So, on the low end, you could peg this deal at five(!!!) 1st round picks, one 2nd, and a 3rd. That's a pretty excessive overpay given the declining market for Eichel right now, even if you're including Tage.
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5 juill. 2021 à 12 h 28
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Pens say NOPE
5 juill. 2021 à 12 h 48
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MAF and TJ dont waive.
5 juill. 2021 à 12 h 51
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Quoting: Lenny7
Wasn't the original ask something along the lines of 4 x 1sts (Or something equal to that?).


No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

Quoting: Lenny7

Let's play a fun game of "What the player's value in terms of draft picks":


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5 juill. 2021 à 13 h 3
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Who are the sabres drafting in the first round?
5 juill. 2021 à 13 h 18
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Quoting: DraftCentralMP
Who are the sabres drafting in the first round?


In real life, they're taking Power first and want Eklund if they can get another first. Personally I want Beniers. From what I have read/heard, they value this class.
5 juill. 2021 à 13 h 58
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Quoting: Shibbal18
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no



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Hahaha, alright...so, instead of that, we can do the whole "Top 6 winger+top prospect+young roster player with plenty of upside+2 x 1st+1 year of Vezina goalie" instead. Does that seem less insane than the return that's posted above?
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5 juill. 2021 à 14 h 8
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With a bad contract and being a rental LD, I can't see the Jets having any interest in Maatta.
5 juill. 2021 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: Lenny7
Wasn't the original ask something along the lines of 4 x 1sts (Or something equal to that?).

Let's play a fun game of "What the player's value in terms of draft picks":

Krebs (1st)
Glass (1st...value may have dropped, but still a very cheap, young roster player with a bunch of years of control left that has plenty of upside)
Tuch (1st+2nd or 3rd, or 1st+decent prospect?)
MAF (I'd say 1st, based on the whole Vezina thing this year, but given the 1 year of control/his age, let's say a 2nd?)
2 x 1st.

So, on the low end, you could peg this deal at five(!!!) 1st round picks, one 2nd, and a 3rd. That's a pretty excessive overpay given the declining market for Eichel right now, even if you're including Tage.


No. According to Buffalo fans, the ask was 7 first-round-draft-pick values, but they'll take 6.

Which is why you and I are out of this market.
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5 juill. 2021 à 15 h 8
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Quoting: Shibbal18
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no



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So, for the record, was the ask for (a) more, or (b) less than four first-round picks?
5 juill. 2021 à 16 h 11
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
So, for the record, was the ask for (a) more, or (b) less than four first-round picks?


That wasnt a thing, it was never a thing. It was a garbage internet rumor people latched on too so they could set their Chel gm meter. The value is the value, you get there by addressing Buffalo's needs, no equivalent to 4 1st rounders childish garbage

Quoting: OldNYIfan
No. According to Buffalo fans, the ask was 7 first-round-draft-pick values, but they'll take 6.

Which is why you and I are out of this market.


Love this strawman, especially in reference to me
5 juill. 2021 à 16 h 52
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That wasnt a thing, it was never a thing. It was a garbage internet rumor people latched on too so they could set their Chel gm meter. The value is the value, you get there by addressing Buffalo's needs, no equivalent to 4 1st rounders childish garbage


Says the guy whose last proposal to Las Vegas was for Tuch, Krebs, Glass, the 2021 first (there's at least four first-round-pick values right there, even conservatively), plus Reilly Smith and Ryan Reaves.

It's irrelevant whether the quote of Kevyn Adams is accurate or not. Us SoCal guys evaluate Eichel trades by what the equivalent values are. You can deny all you want that Kevyn Adams ever said that, but the bottom line is that Buffalo proposals are always for more than four first-round-pick values. What I find especially pernicious is your comrades' constant evaluation of a top-10 pick as just another first-rounder (as if Los Angeles would trade #8 for Minnesota's two picks) while pooh-poohing the value of any pick after #16 as "not really a first-round pick." (To be fair, I'm not including you in this group at all.) FYI, I consider a top-10 pick as worth two first-round-pick values and a pick in the 21 to 32 range as a 0.75 first-round-pick value. Nobody in his right mind thinks that Seth Jones and Columbus' two late first-rounders is an equitable trade for Eichel. But you'll be hard-pressed to find any Buffalo ACGM offer for Eichel that is less than 5 first-round-pick values, and I don't think that's coincidental.
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5 juill. 2021 à 17 h 1
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
(there's at least four first-round-pick values right there, even conservatively)


Omfg... this is entirely my point
 
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