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Créé par: Quillanrocks

Équipe: 2021-22 Jets de Winnipeg

Date de création initiale: 3 juill. 2021

Publié: 3 juill. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

- In preparation for Seattle expansion, Jets make some tough decisions regarding players to protect and how.
- Again, this AGM runs with the theme that Copp's uncertain future with the team could precipitate a move.
- Also identified a solid defensive add, courtesy of a couple Dallas AGM's that suggested there may be a potential fit.
- Winnipeg adds depth pieces at forward --- players with experience and can play various positions, that can potentially move up and down in the lineup --- but the "opening night" roster reflects a (hopeful) youth movement at most positions. (But YES, the pieces are there to eventually ice the typical Jets roster . . . experience over youth.)
- Heinola makes the team, bumping Stanley to begin the season. Paired with the addition of Hakanpaa for an intriguing Finnish third pairing!
- Perfetti, too, starts the season on the wing . . . the Jets want to see his 9 game NHL "audition" before making the tough decision on NHL versus another year in junior.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE	ANS	CAP HIT
Nikkanen, Henri	3	875 000 $
Smith, Nathan	2	855 000 $
Torgersson, Daniel	3	895 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Pionk, Neal	5	5 500 000 $
Stanley, Logan	2	1 150 000 $
Kehler, Cole	1	750 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Brossoit, Laurent	1	1 750 000 $
Hakanpää, Jani	2	1 750 000 $
Bozak, Tyler	1	1 950 000 $
Perreault, Mathieu	2	1 500 000 $
Fasching, Hudson	2	960 000 $
Witkowski, Luke	1	760 000 $
Gust, David	1	860 000 $
Quine, Alan	1	850 000 $
Goulbourne, Tyrell	1	890 000 $

Transactions

WPG

Girgensons, Zemgus
Laaksonen, Oskari
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)

Détails additionnels:

Facing the potential of a second arbitration hearing with Copp, the Jets trade him for futures and a depth forward, allowing Winnipeg to safely protect Appleton against expansion selection.

BUF

Copp, Andrew [Droits de RFA]

WPG

Expansion Draft Considerations **

SEA

Holm, Arvid
Johannesson, Anton [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)

WPG

SEA

Beaulieu, Nathan

Détails additionnels:

Expansion Draft Selection

* * Earlier assets received on the condition Seattle select this player.

WPG

Lindell, Esa
Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (DAL)

Détails additionnels:

(Got the idea for this trade by a Stars fan who traded Lindell in 2 separate AGM's --- hate to lose Vesalainen but strengthening the defense is sorely required. Lindell is a solid top-four defenseman with ample term, to Chevy's liking.)

DAL

Niku, Sami
Vesalainen, Kristian
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WPG)

Détails additionnels:

- If the Jets advance to the Stanley Cup finals in either of the next 2 seasons, the 2023 2nd round pick becomes a first round selection.

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	77 129 646 $	145 122 $	557 500 $	4 370 354 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Connor, Kyle 7 142 857 $7 142 857 $ AG UFA - 5	Scheifele, Mark 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Wheeler, Blake 8 250 000 $8 250 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 3
Perfetti, Cole 894 167 $894 167 $ (500 000 $$500K) AG, C RFA - 3	Dubois, Pierre-Luc 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C UFA - 1	Ehlers, Nikolaj 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
Harkins, Jansen 725 000 $725 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Lowry, Adam 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 5	Appleton, Mason 900 000 $900 000 $ AD UFA - 1
	Gustafsson, David 817 500 $817 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) AG, C RFA - 1	Bozak, Tyler 1 950 000 $1 950 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1
Perreault, Mathieu 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Lindell, Esa 5 800 000 $5 800 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 4	Pionk, Neal 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Hellebuyck, Connor 6 166 667 $6 166 667 $ G UFA - 3
Morrissey, Joshua 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG UFA - 7	DeMelo, Dylan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3
Heinola, Ville 863 333 $863 333 $ DG RFA - 3	Hakanpää, Jani 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Brossoit, Laurent 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ G UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Stanley, Logan 1 150 000 $1 150 000 $ DG RFA - 2		Little, Bryan 5 291 667 $5 291 667 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 3
Girgensons, Zemgus 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ AG, C UFA - 2

3 juill. 2021 à 13 h 59

njlaforte

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I would rather lose Stanley then give up a 2nd and a very good D prospect to protect him. Also the Jets could get more back for Copp, like a Vince Dunn or pay a bit more for a Sam Reinhart.

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3 juill. 2021 à 14 h 7

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Quoting: njlaf705

I would rather lose Stanley then give up a 2nd and a very good D prospect to protect him. Also the Jets could get more back for Copp, like a Vince Dunn or pay a bit more for a Sam Reinhart.

All very good possibilities. I actually think I agree with you on losing Stanley, but I also try to imagine what Chevy might do. (?) The assets traded to Seattle are to have them select Beaulieu over several "better" options Seattle has to choose from . . . Stanley, Niku, Berdin, Harkins. Chevy is famous for wanting to hang on to the assets he acquires, both through trade and the draft. I'd be surprised if he doesn't pay some sort of price to sway Seattle in some way.

What are your thoughts on the Lindell trade??

3 juill. 2021 à 14 h 20

Windjammer

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I'd rather the Jets just let Seattle take who they want. Plus the Jets should trade Copp for something they need that can play now, if they move him, as opposed to waiting for a long shot prospect.

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3 juill. 2021 à 14 h 33

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Quoting: njlaf705

I would rather lose Stanley then give up a 2nd and a very good D prospect to protect him. Also the Jets could get more back for Copp, like a Vince Dunn or pay a bit more for a Sam Reinhart.

Quoting: Windjammer

I'd rather the Jets just let Seattle take who they want. Plus the Jets should trade Copp for something they need that can play now, if they move him, as opposed to waiting for a long shot prospect.

You're both right about Copp and the disappointing return. I just keep going back to the idea that Copp will price himself out of Winnipeg's long-term plans and if that's the case --- and if perhaps all he'll commit to is a 1 year deal or threatens arbitration (which will be the end result anyway) --- I would hate to see Appleton lost to Seattle just to have Copp walk in a year, anyway. So the premise is a deal PRE-EXPANSION where Appleton remains protected. Perhaps they get back more, but then there are protection issues, again, if they add a roster player that helps this season, etc. (?)

I honestly have no qualms with Seattle taking Stanley, though. With Heinola and Samberg right there, he can't afford a backward step IMO, and I think he may slide this next season, Hope I'm wrong.

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3 juill. 2021 à 15 h 29

g0rd0l0c0

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Yeah most Stars fans think the team could compete without Lindell babysitting Klingberg, yeah right, if Lindell is gone they might as well blow it up the defense is the main thing that makes middle of the pack teams playoff contenders.

3 juill. 2021 à 15 h 47

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Quoting: g0rd0l0c0

Not sure if your post is being critical of a lot of your fans, or of me for sharing how I got the idea of trading for Lindell from a Dallas fan. (?) If it's the latter, check out some recent AGM's by TheMooterus.

3 juill. 2021 à 16 h 24

Islesforthecup

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With 4.5 in cap space why not sign someone to play LW2 if perfetti doesnt stick this season. Get someone on a 1 year deal if you want (stastny) or a few more years (saad, tatar)

3 juill. 2021 à 16 h 33

g0rd0l0c0

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Quoting: Quillanrocks

Sorry, yes critical of dumb Stars fans. Unless Dallas decides to blow it up which all signs point to them trying to make another run to playoffs with this group. But if they did yeah targeting Lindell would be a good move for the Jets, severely under appreciated here and Canadian fans would understand the value his skill set. Maybe a different return if they were rebuilding maybe send another prospect with him like Mascherin and get a first round pick this year (since you know already it’s a later pick having made the second round of playoffs) or maybe a second and third this year, but I’m not familiar with all of the moves Winnipeg could make and how close they might be to going all in next year so that might be against their interests too.

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3 juill. 2021 à 17 h 7

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Quoting: g0rd0l0c0

I would hope that the Jets would be very open to trading quality assets for a solid defenseman like Lindell, someone in his prime with that kind of shutdown ability and ample term left on his contract. But I could write a book on SO many players, of all shapes an sizes, that have been traded to other teams for a price that left me scratching my head, wondering "why the hell were the Jets not in on this one?!" Lol

3 juill. 2021 à 17 h 16

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Quoting: Islesforthecup

With 4.5 in cap space why not sign someone to play LW2 if perfetti doesnt stick this season. Get someone on a 1 year deal if you want (stastny) or a few more years (saad, tatar)

I thought about signing someone else, but I also really hope the Jets give some of their youth a LONG look this season . . . Harkins, Gustafsson, (Vesalainen), and I think even Perfetti. I hope Jets don't bring back Stastny, to be honest. All I think it does is muddle up the center situation and I feel it's imperative Dubois play 2C full-time this season, for better or worse.

3 juill. 2021 à 19 h 24

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njlaforte

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Quoting: Quillanrocks

I think they don't need him. If they trade for any defensemen it should be Josh Manson. Manson is like Trouba and JMo was amazing with Trouba. With Manson and without Stanley the d-lines should be...

JMo - Manson
Samberg - Pionk
Heinola - DeMelo

If the Jets were to not get any new blue liners and still have DeMelo and Stanley the lines should be...

JMo - DeMelo
Heinola- Pionk
Stanley - Samberg

3 juill. 2021 à 19 h 53

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Quoting: njlaf705

I like Manson, too. Problem is Winnipeg was reported to be on his 12 team NO list at the deadline. Even if he somehow changed his mind, he's UFA in a year and Anaheim wants a haul for him. Not ideal.

Also, while I get the excitement in Heinola and Samberg, I don't think icing a d-core with 2 rookies (2 rookies and a sophomore in your second scenario) will spell improvement in the defensive zone.

3 juill. 2021 à 20 h 3

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Quoting: Quillanrocks

So get someone else and give perfetti a shot on the 3rd line and harkins on the 4th or something, but you have a really solid team and it would be foolish imo to take a chance and what happens if perfetti cant stick it in the nhl let alone top 6 on a competing team? Its not like youre gonna have top 6 guys waiting around in fa by the time that decision is made. So you just threw away a year of this core.

3 juill. 2021 à 20 h 31

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Modifié 3 juill. 2021 à 23 h 13

Quoting: Islesforthecup

It's certainly fun to imagine---the Jets landing Tatar or Hyman, perhaps . . . maybe Schwartz---but for a multitude of reasons, the lower-tier UFA's available "at the end" are the players the Jets seem to end up with. Bringing back Perreault & signing Bozak are more Winnipeg's "speed." Besides, whatever money Jets ownership allows Chevy to spend should be used to improve the defense, which I addressed.

Speaking of which, if your team needs help with their cap situation, I'm sure the Jets would be happy to take Pulock off your hands! (Fat chance, I know!)

3 juill. 2021 à 22 h 2

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njlaforte

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Quoting: Quillanrocks

The current roster seems to be out of their window. It is not about a cup run this coming year. They need to take a step back, re-tool, and play the youth. Heinola, Samberg, Perfetti, Vesalainen and Gustafsson are too good to play in the AHL and need a spot on the roster this year. If they don't step back and re-tool then they will turn into the Penguins and be trading futures every year to try and push themselves back into contention when they would be better off to use those futures and open a new longer window.

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3 juill. 2021 à 23 h 10

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Quoting: njlaf705

Respectfully, I must disagree. The core of this team is in it's prime and they should see their window as very wide open still. The Jets need to find a balance between building around that core with both youth and the right acquisitions, but I have little worry that Cheveldayoff will sacrifice future assets---especially after this past trade deadline---unless he feels supremely confident the move will help the team compete now AND in the future.

Pittsburgh is a poor example. They won 3 Stanley Cups. When you win one, and when you do your utmost to keep elite players and a core together, you want to win it again and again, and you will sacrifice tomorrow for the immediate to do so . . . to do whatever you can to keep that window open.

Long and short of it, I want to see the teams youth be given more opportunity, but I also think this team could very well contend with some changes and 2 or 3 new pieces added. If the right deal emerges, I would hope Chevy capitalizes.

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