Looks like the Wild are trying to build on the success of this year and are betting that JEE continues to be the player he was this season.

A bit less optimistic about this one compared to RNH's contract.

What kind of teams pay their 3c's 5 mil?

And few teams pay their 1c more than 9 mil.

bad contract, he will decline in 3rd season

Boston: Charlie Coyle (although I'd like to point out that this contract is going rotten very quickly)
Tampa: Yanni Gourde
New York Islanders: Jean-Gabriel Pageau
Calgary: Mikael Backlund
Carolina: Your pick between Jordan Staal or Vinny Trochek
And plenty of other teams have their 3C's within the lower bounds of that range. It is pretty typical these days man.

In terms of the 1C, most teams that aren't paying their 1C's 9+ just haven't had them come up for contract since this rule of thumb was accurate, or they weren't the 1C they are today when they signed (looks at MacKinnon)

Interesting contract, not sure how to feel about it

The only questionable part of this contract is the term.

Where did I say he's a 2C? I said $5.25m for a 2C is steal, based on some other comment saying it was a lot for a 1C. Right now, Ek is a 3C on a good team and hopefully he keeps improving to be worth the money. It's an 8 year deal, they're betting he'll keep improving.

The money is right, the term is really long though.

Should have gotten the AAV down with that term but not a bad deal nonetheless. Hope he pans out.

Was going to make this exact point.

If the past two seasons are a sign of how he’ll maintain/accelerate his growth, this is a great deal.

Worst case scenario? Yeah…Wennberg 2.0.

Even if he plateaus into a decent 40-45 point 2 way guy who can play up and down, 5.25 is not that much for that

Where did I say… you said he's a 2C?

lot of "not sure how I feel about it".......just come out and say what you mean, you don't like it.

I don't blame you, I don't like it either. This is a lot of term for a lot of scratch on someone who doesn't really have much history here.
Just to put this in comparison. Guys like Pasta and Jake came out and got 6-5 year deals at 6+ million after 70 point seasons.
Now I know the pasta deal was a while ago, but Jake's was not really in this flat cap world for the last 2 seasons.
I just don't see how his numbers justify that figure. Hell even if you extend out his "vreakout year, he's still pulling down 40s in points.
This should be far less for far shorter.

Backlund's usually a 2c, and like you said, Coyle's contract hasn't aged well.

The other 3(4) are the leagues best 3c's. They should be payed a little more.

And if not many 1c's are payed 9 mil, why put that as the price for a 1c?

Beacause that is the going rate for a 1C on the market these days?




And yes, that is how the upperbounds work. It is the best 3C's in the league with some overlap with 2C's.

This signing compares favorably to Hischier, who hit around $7.25M AAV. Both are excellent 2-way centers. Nico probably has a higher offensive upside, but both are foundational pieces. A+ signing for both sides here. Maybe the flat cap will encourage more max term contracts?

I should clarify: I don't think most 1cs are payed 5 mil (it's probably 6 mil for low end ones). That is the money of a mid to lower end 2c.

Which, in my opinion, is what Ek is.

You quoted me saying $5.25m for a 2C is a steal, posted some stats to compare him to Eller, and proceeded to say people saying this is a steal might be over hyping him?

you should re read the conversation.... think you are confused

Eller = great 3c average 2c... doesn't score a ton of points but has a great 200ft game. Steal would be getting him for 3.5m this is an okay deal could turn out to be really good

I'd offer you the same suggestion. You quoted me when I didn't even say anything about where Ek fits into a lineup and proceeded to explain where he did based on a comparison to Eller.

your exact words

"Yeah, I was going to say $5.25m is a steal for a 2C. Contract is a gamble the steady progress he's shown year over year will continue, so we'll see. I like it though, thrilled to see him signed long term."

5.25m is a steal for a 2c.... means you think hes a 2c and that this price point would be considered well below league average. i simply was pointing out his production is that of a 3c or an average 2c and that this deal is far from a "steal" and is actually closer to being fair / average. based off this comment you said 2c...with the exact cap hit he has... meaning you think he is or potentially is a 2c?. seems weirdly specific to generally be talking about anyone besides Ek. the fact people are referring to him as a good 2c is overhyping him imo

You're trolling at this point? I said 5.25m is a steal for a 2C IN RESPONSE TO SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF A 2C WHO IN TURN WAS RESPONDING TO SOMEONE SAYING THAT WAS EXPENSIVE FOR A 1C AND NOT SAYING WHETHER EK WAS OR WAS NOT ONE.

how is that trolling i took your exact quote that isaw. i will agree that 5.25m is amazing for a 2c but Ek isnt a 2c....

i only saw you quote this guy

"Bro have you seen contracts these days? 5.25 is high end 3C/low end 2C money.

750k-2M = 4C
3M-5M = 3C
6M-8M = 2C
9M+ = 1C"

which this guy had one of the worst takes ive ever seen....who pays a 3c 5m? lol

No one pays guys based on where they play, they pay them based on production.
This whole concept here is absurd.

if you are talking about this

"Bro have you seen contracts these days? 5.25 is high end 3C/low end 2C money.

750k-2M = 4C
3M-5M = 3C
6M-8M = 2C
9M+ = 1C"

i agree some guy posted this andit was absolutely idiotic

i posted this

118gp 27g 32a 59p (.5ppg or 41p / 82gp)

48.59cf% 49.52ff% 55.79xgf%

his production is that of a 3c and his contract is a lot for the production he currently is producing at... more got paid for potential

also production and promotion in line up generally go hand in hand... unless you have an overwhelming amount of talent at a position which isnt the case here lol

best example would be Kessel on Pitt