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Eichel to Rangers

Créé par: Pullero
Date de création initiale: 2 juill. 2021
Publié: 2 juill. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Explications
So apparently Rangers want Eichel... rumours suggest that Sabres are dreaming of getting Lafreniere, but I cant see him moving. Instead we have Kakko and Chytil who would be imo great adds for Sabres and with Eichel going back the other they would be expendable for Rangers. Then we add the 15th overall pick and I think this trade needs one of the Rangers defense prospects to go trough. Could be anyone of them: Jones, Lundkvist, Schneider, Robertson

What do you think?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Asplund, Rasmus2750 000 $
Borgen, William2750 000 $
Dahlin, Rasmus36 000 000 $
Jokiharju, Henri32 000 000 $
Mittelstadt, Casey21 500 000 $
Chytil, Filip31 750 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Power, Owen3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
  2. Schneider, Braden
  3. Chytil, Filip [Droits de RFA]
  4. 2021 1e round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Eichel, Jack
2.
BUF
    SEA
    1. Thompson, Tage
    3.
    BUF
    1. Merzlikins, Elvis
    2. Foudy, Liam
    3. 2021 1e round pick (TOR)
    CBJ
    1. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
    4.
    BUF
    1. 2022 2e round pick (PIT)
    PIT
    1. Ristolainen, Rasmus (2 700 000 $ retained)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
    • Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Rasmus Ristolainen: 2 700 000 $ (50%)
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    BUF
    NYR
    TOR
    BUF
    BOS
    FLA
    MTL
    BUF
    MTL
    BUF
    COL
    BUF
    2022
    BUF
    BUF
    PIT
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    2023
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
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    2381 500 000 $56 208 083 $113 916 $3 900 000 $25 291 917 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    BUF
    Skinner, Jeff
    9 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    BUF
    Mittelstadt, Casey
    1 500 000 $
    C
    RFA - 3
    NYR
    Kakko, Kaapo
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Chytil, Filip
    1 750 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Cozens, Dylan
    894 167 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Olofsson, Victor
    3 050 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Ruotsalainen, Arttu
    925 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    CBJ
    Foudy, Liam
    894 167 $
    C, AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Bjork, Anders
    1 600 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Girgensons, Zemgus
    2 200 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    BUF
    Eakin, Cody
    2 250 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    Okposo, Kyle
    6 000 000 $
    AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    BUF
    Dahlin, Rasmus
    6 000 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 3
    BUF
    Jokiharju, Henri
    2 000 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 3
    CBJ
    Merzlikins, Elvis
    4 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    Bryson, Jacob
    889 166 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Miller, Colin
    3 875 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    Tokarski, Dustin
    725 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Power, Owen
    925 000 $
    BUF
    Borgen, William
    750 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    BUF
    Samuelsson, Mattias
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Murray, Brett
    775 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Asplund, Rasmus
    750 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Skinner, J.
    Mittelstadt, C.
    Olofsson, V.
    Miller, C.
    Dahlin, R.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Ruotsalainen, A.
    Cozens, D.
    Chytil, F.
    Power, O.
    Kakko, K.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Girgensons, Z.
    Okposo, K.
    Dahlin, R.
    Jokiharju, H.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Foudy, L.
    Bjork, A.
    Power, O.
    Borgen, W.

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    2 juill. 2021 à 11 h 35
    #1
    Shibbal18
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    Sabres are dreaming of getting Lafreniere = The only thing that keeps NY in the running. Eichel to the Rangers isnt happening
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    2 juill. 2021 à 11 h 35
    #2
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    I think both Eichel and Sam will get less than that in a trade but the Risto part is fair, although you will likely need to take some cap back for the Pens as its tight for them.

    Other than that its good matching on teams and players
    2 juill. 2021 à 11 h 35
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    that's a big no thank you from the Rangers. If the cap wasn't flat and Eichel was 100% healthy then maybe, but even then that's going to be a hard sell.
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    2 juill. 2021 à 11 h 36
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Sabres are dreaming of getting Lafreniere = The only thing that keeps NY in the running. Eichel to the Rangers isnt happening


    Sabers can dream all they want but it'll come down to what is the best thing other teams offer, not Buf's wishes.
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    2 juill. 2021 à 11 h 38
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    Quoting: Meeqs
    Sabers can dream all they want but it'll come down to what is the best thing other teams offer, not Buf's wishes.


    And the Ducks are still interested. Rangers can’t beat 3 overall+Comtois. It would be disappointing to see Jack on a team that’s worse than the Sabres though.
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    2 juill. 2021 à 11 h 38
    #6
    Lenny7
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Sabres are dreaming of getting Lafreniere = The only thing that keeps NY in the running. Eichel to the Rangers isnt happening


    People also seem to forget about the bonus overrages that NYR are going to have this coming season.
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    2 juill. 2021 à 11 h 39
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    Quoting: Meeqs
    Sabers can dream all they want but it'll come down to what is the best thing other teams offer, not Buf's wishes.


    Until another team offers something much closer to what Buffalo wants, Eichel to the Rangers isnt happening
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    2 juill. 2021 à 11 h 41
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    And the Ducks are still interested. Rangers can’t beat 3 overall+Comtois. It would be disappointing to see Jack on a team that’s worse than the Sabres though.


    Was reported the other day that the Ducks interest was overstated by the media.

    As for "It would be disappointing to see Jack on a team that’s worse than the Sabres though.", whaaaat are you talking about? tears of joy
    2 juill. 2021 à 11 h 44
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Until another team offers something much closer to what Buffalo wants, Eichel to the Rangers isnt happening


    Its about who will offer the best package, its that simple. If this was LAST offseason I would be 100% with you but at this point its happening one way or another and BUF isn't getting the benefit of the doubt after the entire league made a joke of them with the Hall trade.

    I DO think Eichel is going to get a hell of a return overall but I don't think fans favorite talking point of 'you have to give your best guy or it wont happen' is ever something that is based in reality. Its incredibly common for teams to just flat out say 'these guys aren't availible, but we still could make a package otherwise that's worth your while' and that is certainly the case for multiple teams.

    Some teams will offer the big prospect but wan't buf to take on a bad contract, some will offer all the most pieces but not have the big name, some will offer the big name but not much else. There will be some give and take
    2 juill. 2021 à 11 h 49
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    Was reported the other day that the Ducks interest was overstated by the media.

    As for "It would be disappointing to see Jack on a team that’s worse than the Sabres though.", whaaaat are you talking about? tears of joy

    Drury did a great job telling Drury that information. Of “no team is interested, but the Rangers have the best offer.” And yes the 2020 Sabres fully healthy would easily beat the ducks.
    2 juill. 2021 à 12 h 3
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    Quoting: Meeqs
    Its about who will offer the best package, its that simple. If this was LAST offseason I would be 100% with you but at this point its happening one way or another and BUF isn't getting the benefit of the doubt after the entire league made a joke of them with the Hall trade.

    I DO think Eichel is going to get a hell of a return overall but I don't think fans favorite talking point of 'you have to give your best guy or it wont happen' is ever something that is based in reality. Its incredibly common for teams to just flat out say 'these guys aren't availible, but we still could make a package otherwise that's worth your while' and that is certainly the case for multiple teams.

    Some teams will offer the big prospect but wan't buf to take on a bad contract, some will offer all the most pieces but not have the big name, some will offer the big name but not much else. There will be some give and take


    Why would Buffalo not take back a bad contract, they never said that
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    2 juill. 2021 à 12 h 6
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    Interesting offer for a healthy Eichel.

    Eichel's not healthy.

    Rangers decline.
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    2 juill. 2021 à 12 h 10
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    Drury did a great job telling Drury that information. Of “no team is interested, but the Rangers have the best offer.” And yes the 2020 Sabres fully healthy would easily beat the ducks.


    "Drury did a great job telling Drury that information. Of “no team is interested, but the Rangers have the best offer.” " What are you talking about?

    "And yes the 2020 Sabres fully healthy would easily beat the ducks." It's so weird to still be under that weird Sabres illusion that your team isn't an absolute dumpster fire. I commend you for that. Could they have beaten the Ducks? Sure! It's hockey! Anyone can beat anyone! Especially when it's two bad teams playing against each other! It's also funny that you figure that the Sabres are the only team that had any injuries this year. Interestingly, of the first 21 games that Anaheim played, 13 were against playoff teams (including 5 against Vegas), while Buffalo had 9 (including 4 against NYI).

    Sabres w/ Eichel: 6-12-3 (21 GP)
    Ducks first 21 games: 6-10-5

    In conclusion: Yay! We both cheer for bad teams! The only difference is that my favourite team doesn't have a consistent track record of being a heaping pile of steaming trash tears of joy
    2 juill. 2021 à 12 h 11
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Why would Buffalo not take back a bad contract, they never said that


    Depends on the contract. For example what if Min offers the best package but says you need to take Parise to make it work?

    Not drawing any conclusions, just throwing out some examples of the give and take that will be happening
    2 juill. 2021 à 12 h 13
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    Shibbal18
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    Quoting: Meeqs
    Depends on the contract. For example what if Min offers the best package but says you need to take Parise to make it work?

    Not drawing any conclusions, just throwing out some examples of the give and take that will be happening


    The problem with Parise is his NTC. Not that Buffalo wouldnt take him, he wouldnt come here
    2 juill. 2021 à 12 h 26
    #16
    Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Until another team offers something much closer to what Buffalo wants, Eichel to the Rangers isnt happening


    ... but no one is bud
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    2 juill. 2021 à 12 h 29
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    "Drury did a great job telling Drury that information. Of “no team is interested, but the Rangers have the best offer.” " What are you talking about?

    "And yes the 2020 Sabres fully healthy would easily beat the ducks." It's so weird to still be under that weird Sabres illusion that your team isn't an absolute dumpster fire. I commend you for that. Could they have beaten the Ducks? Sure! It's hockey! Anyone can beat anyone! Especially when it's two bad teams playing against each other! It's also funny that you figure that the Sabres are the only team that had any injuries this year. Interestingly, of the first 21 games that Anaheim played, 13 were against playoff teams (including 5 against Vegas), while Buffalo had 9 (including 4 against NYI).

    Sabres w/ Eichel: 6-12-3 (21 GP)
    Ducks first 21 games: 6-10-5

    In conclusion: Yay! We both cheer for bad teams! The only difference is that my favourite team doesn't have a consistent track record of being a heaping pile of steaming trash tears of joy


    Sorry Drury was obviously telling Dreger that “information.” There’s no way Eichel ends up in the Rangers this offseason.
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    2 juill. 2021 à 12 h 46
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    Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
    ... but no one is bud


    there already are... bud
    2 juill. 2021 à 12 h 55
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    Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    there already are... bud


    oh really tell me them... (LA is out) and no one has anything, can take on his cap easily, and will be trading what ur asking for. So good luck when you get your mediocre return.
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    2 juill. 2021 à 13 h 18
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    Sorry Drury was obviously telling Dreger that “information.” There’s no way Eichel ends up in the Rangers this offseason.


    Dreger REALLY came off like a puppet. Pretty bad look honestly.
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    2 juill. 2021 à 13 h 58
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    Shibbal18
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    Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
    oh really tell me them... (LA is out) and no one has anything, can take on his cap easily, and will be trading what ur asking for. So good luck when you get your mediocre return.


    No OnE cAn TaKe On ThE cAp. Sabres will have plenty of cap space to help anyone out. LA also isnt out
    2 juill. 2021 à 14 h 29
    #22
    Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    No OnE cAn TaKe On ThE cAp. Sabres will have plenty of cap space to help anyone out. LA also isnt out


    NO OnE CaN TrAde ThEIR BaD contracts. They all have ntc. No one really has the issues this year it’s the years after. And keep dreaming that LA isn’t out they were really in it a week ago and now they are def not in it with arvidsson happening
     
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