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Eichel

Créé par: MarcN
Date de création initiale: 1 juill. 2021
Publié: 1 juill. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Explications
I'm not a Rangers fan....so I might be way off in what people think of their players lol
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Chytil, Filip33 000 000 $
Shesterkin, Igor64 500 000 $
Gauthier, Julien21 000 000 $
Howden, Brett21 500 000 $
Hájek, Libor22 500 000 $
Buchnevich, Pavel66 000 000 $
Dermott, Travis21 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Martinez, Alec35 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
  2. Kakko, Kaapo
  3. Miller, K'Andre
  4. Deangelo, Anthony
  5. 2021 1e round pick (NYR)
2.
NYR
  1. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
  2. Engvall, Pierre
Détails additionnels:
Assuming the Leafs lose Kerfoot to Seattle and bring back Bogosian
TOR
  1. Strome, Ryan (1 250 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Strome is in the last year of his contract, so likely just a rental
Rachats de contrats
  • Henrik Lundqvist: 1 500 000 $
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
  • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Ryan Strome: 1 250 000 $ (27.78%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
NYR
BUF
NYR
LAK
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $80 062 301 $0 $4 550 000 $1 437 699 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
925 000 $
AG
RFA - 2
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
NYR
Kreider, Chris
6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Chytil, Filip
3 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
NYR
Howden, Brett
1 500 000 $
C
RFA - 1
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
NYR
Blackwell, Colin
725 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
1 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Martinez, Alec
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
NYR
Fox, Adam
925 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
4 500 000 $
G
UFA - 4
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
NYR
Kinkaid, Keith
825 000 $
G
UFA - 1
NYR
Hájek, Libor
2 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Dermott, Travis
1 200 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
NYR
Bitetto, Anthony
737 500 $ (0 $)
DG
UFA - 1
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
750 000 $ (0 $)
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1

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1 juill. 2021 à 21 h 22
#1
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Pretty far off on Strome's value...

And that's roughly the price for a healthy Eichel.... Eichel isn't healthy. Far from it.
1 juill. 2021 à 21 h 34
#2
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Pretty far off on Strome's value...

And that's roughly the price for a healthy Eichel.... Eichel isn't healthy. Far from it.


If it costs less for Eichel then even better for NYR. I suspect that moving DeAngelo will cost them though rather than being considered an asset...particularly without retaining any of his salary.

I'll admit that I'm limited on my knowledge of Strome. But with the acquisition of Eichel, his job has been lost and his cap hit likely needs to go. He is also likely just a rental wherever he'd get moved being at the end of his contract and both Dermott and Engvall could be retained for quite a while.

What would the return for Strome be?
1 juill. 2021 à 21 h 37
#3
Shibbal18
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Sabres pass
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1 juill. 2021 à 21 h 41
#4
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I wondered if Sabres fans would think it's not enough while others would think it's too much lol. It'll be interesting to see what he actually moves for.
1 juill. 2021 à 22 h 2
#5
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Pretty far off on Strome's value...

And that's roughly the price for a healthy Eichel.... Eichel isn't healthy. Far from it.


Except nobody is going to trade for Eichel without their medical team reviewing and signing off on it. There isn’t going to be medical discounts, team medical signs off on him he is 100% and the price is what BUF has out there 4 1st rd pieces, team medical doesn’t sign off they don’t trade for him period. But the more things are starting to happen RNH contract, Arvidsson trade, the more I begin to wonder if anybody is going be willing to part with the pieces to add a $10M contract even if it is a 24yr old elite center.
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1 juill. 2021 à 22 h 18
#6
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Way too much for Eichel
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1 juill. 2021 à 22 h 29
#7
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Yessssss....got Sabres saying not enough and Rangers saying too much lol
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1 juill. 2021 à 22 h 30
#8
Stay mad
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Quoting: Xqb15a
Except nobody is going to trade for Eichel without their medical team reviewing and signing off on it. There isn’t going to be medical discounts, team medical signs off on him he is 100% and the price is what BUF has out there 4 1st rd pieces, team medical doesn’t sign off they don’t trade for him period. But the more things are starting to happen RNH contract, Arvidsson trade, the more I begin to wonder if anybody is going be willing to part with the pieces to add a $10M contract even if it is a 24yr old elite center.


You forgot to add broke elite center
1 juill. 2021 à 22 h 33
#9
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Bonus points for sending Georgiev and Deangelo to the same team.
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1 juill. 2021 à 22 h 36
#10
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Quoting: sabres89
Bonus points for sending Georgiev and Deangelo to the same team.


Funny you're the only one that said something lol....although I still don't see DeAngelo playing for the Sabres either...or anyone
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1 juill. 2021 à 22 h 45
#11
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New York already said they're buying out Deangelo this summer. If someone really wants him, they can just wait until after the buyout and sign him as a UFA.
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1 juill. 2021 à 22 h 56
#12
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
New York already said they're buying out Deangelo this summer. If someone really wants him, they can just wait until after the buyout and sign him as a UFA.


Part of paying so much for Eichel would be to make the buyout someone else's job and someone else's cap hit
1 juill. 2021 à 23 h 57
#13
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Quoting: MarcN
Yessssss....got Sabres saying not enough and Rangers saying too much lol


Rangers will say too much to everything. They really overrate their young guys on here.
2 juill. 2021 à 0 h 0
#14
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Quoting: MarcN
If it costs less for Eichel then even better for NYR. I suspect that moving DeAngelo will cost them though rather than being considered an asset...particularly without retaining any of his salary.

I'll admit that I'm limited on my knowledge of Strome. But with the acquisition of Eichel, his job has been lost and his cap hit likely needs to go. He is also likely just a rental wherever he'd get moved being at the end of his contract and both Dermott and Engvall could be retained for quite a while.

What would the return for Strome be?


Fortunately Deangelo is almost surely a buyout, which only costs about 300k for the Rangers in cap. So they won't be paying anything to get rid of him nor retaining a thing.

You are correct, acquiring Eichel makes Strome redundant. Over the last 2 seasons Strome has put up more points than guys like Barzal, Tkachuk, Rantanen, Ehlers, Bergeron, etc (he's 28th in the NHL over that span). For a guy like that who plays C and all situations, you can expect to pay a 1st+ as a rental.
2 juill. 2021 à 0 h 13
#15
In Zito We Trust
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Hajek sucks
2 juill. 2021 à 0 h 32
#16
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Fortunately Deangelo is almost surely a buyout, which only costs about 300k for the Rangers in cap. So they won't be paying anything to get rid of him nor retaining a thing.

You are correct, acquiring Eichel makes Strome redundant. Over the last 2 seasons Strome has put up more points than guys like Barzal, Tkachuk, Rantanen, Ehlers, Bergeron, etc (he's 28th in the NHL over that span). For a guy like that who plays C and all situations, you can expect to pay a 1st+ as a rental.


Keep dreaming on a 1st+ you wont get a 1st at all. Id imagine i could put up a bunch of points if i was playing with panarin.
2 juill. 2021 à 0 h 34
#17
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Surprise surprise. A leafs fan has a trade thats pretty lopsided. And guess who its in favor of? The leafs! Wow what a coincidence. All leafs fans should be banned from cf.
2 juill. 2021 à 9 h 53
#18
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Rangers decline both trades.
2 juill. 2021 à 10 h 13
#19
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
Keep dreaming on a 1st+ you wont get a 1st at all. Id imagine i could put up a bunch of points if i was playing with panarin.


Ppl said this about Kevin Hayes too way back when. Also, when Panarin missed time this year Strome performed at a point per game pace. He should fetch a 1st, more if rangers retain half
2 juill. 2021 à 12 h 12
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
You forgot to add broke elite center


No I didn’t, you missed the whole point of my post if you think I forgot broke. If you trade for him he is healthy, otherwise you don’t make the trade. Period.
 
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