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Way for teams to not give up a player in the Expansion draft

Créé par: AMBA2007
Date de création initiale: 25 juin 2021
Publié: 26 juin 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Explications
Steps to not give up a player in the draft.

This will only work if SEA agrees to the 3 team trade and a third team does too. The third team is most likely VGK, but can be any other team, that is willing to give up 2 players.

For this example, I will use VGK.

1) Find a player on VGK that SEA likes and VGK are ok losing. For this hypothetical, I will use Holden.

2) Trade a prospect/ pick to VGK for Holden. Think of the pick/ prospect as compensation for not having a player selected off your roster.

3) SEA selects Holden off your roster. You can give SEA a pick as compensation, but you don't have to.

Now you gave an OK prospect, and a 4th round pick, to keep players like Bean, Fast, and Martinook for free!
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Holden, Nick
VGK
  1. Puistola, Patrik [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
Trade a prospect/ pick to VGK for Holden. Think of the pick/ prospect as compensation for not having a player selected off your roster.
2.
CAR
    SEA
    1. Holden, Nick
    2. 2021 4e round pick (CAR)
    Détails additionnels:
    SEA selects Holden off your roster. You can give SEA a pick as compensation, but you don't have to.
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    LAK
    STL
    2022
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    ANA
    CAR
    CBJ
    2023
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    1281 500 000 $52 073 583 $0 $537 500 $29 426 417 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    CAR
    Niederreiter, Nino
    5 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    CAR
    Aho, Sebastian
    8 460 250 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
    CAR
    Teräväinen, Teuvo
    5 400 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    CAR
    Staal, Jordan
    6 000 000 $
    C, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    CAR
    Fast, Jesper
    2 000 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    CAR
    Trocheck, Vincent
    4 750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    CAR
    Necas, Martin
    863 333 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 1
    CAR
    Lorentz, Steven
    725 000 $
    AD, C, AG
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    CAR
    Slavin, Jaccob
    5 300 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    CAR
    Pesce, Brett
    4 025 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    CAR
    Skjei, Brady
    5 250 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    CAR
    Gardiner, Jake
    4 050 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 2

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    26 juin à 0 h 14
    #1
    Miss the Thrashers
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    Why would you give Puistola up, just let them take Fast or Skjei
    26 juin à 0 h 19
    #2
    Your deal is bad
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Why would you give Puistola up, just let them take Fast or Skjei


    It's not about the players used. They are just showing an example
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    26 juin à 0 h 20
    #3
    Miss the Thrashers
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    Quoting: OnlyBadDeals
    It's not about the players used. They is just showing an example


    It makes no sense because you lose both picks and prospects to do it. It's easier to bite the bullet on one player
    26 juin à 0 h 22
    #4
    Démarrer sujet
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    It makes no sense because you lose both picks and prospects to do it. It's easier to bite the bullet on one player


    Maybe your right but a team like CAR or TBL would make a trade like this to help them not lose a big player. Also, all of the players and picks involved in this scenario were hypothetical and can be changed anytime.
    26 juin à 0 h 24
    #5
    Miss the Thrashers
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    Quoting: AMBA2007
    Maybe your right but a team like CAR or TBL would make a trade like this to help them not lose a big player. Also, all of the players and picks involved in this scenario were hypothetical and can be changed anytime.


    Even for Carolina, this makes no sense. The biggest loss here is Skjei or Bean. That's not a big deal. Think of it as trading to keep that player, would you give up Puistola and a 4th for Brady Skjei? No. Just keep the magic beans and let them take the larger deal.
    26 juin à 0 h 25
    #6
    Your deal is bad
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    Quoting: AMBA2007
    Maybe your right but a team like CAR or TBL would make a trade like this to help them not lose a big player. Also, all of the players and picks involved in this scenario were hypothetical and can be changed anytime.


    I get that it's more about the theory and less about the teams, but Carolina doesn't have much to lose in my opinion. We lose Skjei, Bean, Geekie, Foegele, or Lorentz. All of those players a pretty easily replaceable. Tampa is also going to want to use the ExD to get rid of cap. I'm not sure what teams could use this tbh. Maybe Colorado?
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    26 juin à 0 h 27
    #7
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    Quoting: AMBA2007
    Maybe your right but a team like CAR or TBL would make a trade like this to help them not lose a big player. Also, all of the players and picks involved in this scenario were hypothetical and can be changed anytime.

    But why would Seattle agree to this lol? If there’s a better player available they’ll just take the better player, nobody likes Holden so much that they’d pass on Skjei. And getting a player from vegas like Smith or something that would actually be better than anyone else you don’t protect, would cost more assets than the assets you hope to protect
    26 juin à 0 h 29
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    Quoting: Alfie11
    But why would Seattle agree to this lol? If there’s a better player available they’ll just take the better player, nobody likes Holden so much that they’d pass on Skjei. And getting a player from vegas like Smith or something that would actually be better than anyone else you don’t protect, would cost more assets than the assets you hope to protect


    Maybe SEA excepts because they get a higher pick than a 4th. Or SEA could like the player a 3rd team is offering.
     
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