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Thoughts on these cap moves while improving Defense and Forwards

Créé par: Mediumyeet
Date de création initiale: 25 juin 2021
Publié: 25 juin 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
Kesler is owed $1.375m by Anaheim with the rest covered by insurance (I believe insurance typically covers 80%)
Roussell is owed $1.9m
For $525k in additional real money Anaheim gets a player that can be in the locker room for leadership and play 4th line while also not having any LTIR so they can accrue capspace during the year allowing for more trade flexibility. They also get a late round pick. Canucks are able to clear $3m off the cap by moving Roussell and putting Kes onto LTIR.

Thoughts on the Pittsburgh trade? Adds grit and leadership tandem goalie for Jarry at $3m plus restocking their prospects a bit.

I know some people think more is needed for Reinhart. I disagree but I'm really wondering more about the Roussell and Pettersson trades.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Pettersson, Elias37 250 000 $
Hughes, Quinn25 500 000 $
Juolevi, Olli1875 000 $
Reinhart, Sam86 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Hakanpää, Jani1950 000 $
Paquette, Cédric1800 000 $
Wedgewood, Scott1800 000 $
Dzingel, Ryan11 000 000 $
Nash, Riley1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
BUF
  1. 2021 1e round pick (VAN)
2.
VAN
  1. Kesler, Ryan
ANA
  1. Roussel, Antoine
  2. 2021 6e round pick (VAN)
3.
VAN
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
PIT
  1. MacEwen, Zack
  2. Holtby, Braden (1 300 000 $ retained)
  3. Lind, Kole [Droits de RFA]
  4. 2021 2e round pick (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
  • Loui Eriksson: 4 000 000 $
  • Jake Virtanen: 50 000 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Braden Holtby: 1 300 000 $ (65%)
Frais appliqués
  • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
VAN
VAN
CHI
WPG
VAN
2022
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
2023
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $82 050 834 $648 780 $1 900 000 $-550 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
VAN
Höglander, Nils
891 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
VAN
Pettersson, Elias
7 250 000 $
C
RFA - 3
VAN
Boeser, Brock
5 875 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
VAN
Pearson, Tanner
3 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
VAN
Horvat, Bo
5 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Reinhart, Sam
6 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
VAN
Podkolzin, Vasily
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
VAN
Miller, J.T.
5 250 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Dzingel, Ryan
1 000 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
VAN
Motte, Tyler
1 225 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Paquette, Cédric
800 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
VAN
Highmore, Matthew
725 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
VAN
Beagle, Jay
3 000 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
Nash, Riley
800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
VAN
Hughes, Quinn
5 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Hakanpää, Jani
950 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 4
VAN
Schmidt, Nate
5 950 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 4
Wedgewood, Scott
800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
VAN
Rathbone, Jack
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
VAN
Myers, Tyler
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
VAN
Juolevi, Olli
875 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
VAN
Ferland, Micheal
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
ANA
Kesler, Ryan
6 875 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1

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25 juin 2021 à 18 h 40
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Mac1010
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I think hughes contract will be a bit higher and I think the cost is more for REinhart.

the rest of it looks alright to me
25 juin 2021 à 18 h 46
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Quoting: mm1010
I think hughes contract will be a bit higher and I think the cost is more for REinhart.

the rest of it looks alright to me


I only went 2yrs on Hughes but I think if it's 3 or 4 years it will be closer to the 6-7m range
25 juin 2021 à 18 h 47
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I think you're right on Reinhart's value, but the Buffalo people won't agree with us.

The Kesler deal is really intriguing. I'm having a hard time imagining why it wouldn't be good for Anaheim. I figure that whether it's good for the Canucks is YOUR problem. (Kesler's actual compensation is a little below his cap hit, so you're off by $40,000, but who the $%#& cares?)

I think that you're overpaying, maybe by that entire 40th overall selection, for Marcus Pettersson. The problem, of course, is figuring out what Holtby is really worth, and to whom.
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25 juin 2021 à 19 h 0
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I think you're right on Reinhart's value, but the Buffalo people won't agree with us.

The Kesler deal is really intriguing. I'm having a hard time imagining why it wouldn't be good for Anaheim. I figure that whether it's good for the Canucks is YOUR problem. (Kesler's actual compensation is a little below his cap hit, so you're off by $40,000, but who the $%#& cares?)

I think that you're overpaying, maybe by that entire 40th overall selection, for Marcus Pettersson. The problem, of course, is figuring out what Holtby is really worth, and to whom.


Thanks I appreciate the input.

I would gladly give up less for Pettersson, like you said it really depends on whether Holtby with some retention has value to them or not. Would of course much rather give up the 3rd rounder instead of the 2nd rounder.

The Kesler trade is really just for Anaheim to get a roster player for their money rather than someone who can't play. Roussell can still play 4th line, he kills penalties and by all accounts has a great personality and professional mindset. Provides a bit of veteran stability to the young group there. Plus they get a late pick. Could always bump the pick up to a 5th rounder. I think it's something Anaheim would consider unless they have some moves up their sleeves that puts them tight to the cap again. Roussell has never really been able to recover from his knee injury but if he feels healthier then he can still add a bit of value for a season.
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25 juin 2021 à 19 h 31
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I think you're right on Reinhart's value, but the Buffalo people won't agree with us.


Agreed. On both points. But I'd put money on there being some B level project prospect Vancouver doesn't particularly care about being included in the deal to make it look bigger.
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25 juin 2021 à 19 h 33
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Quoting: GoodIdeaAtTheTime
Agreed. On both points. But I'd put money on there being some B level project prospect Vancouver doesn't particularly care about being included in the deal to make it look bigger.


Ya I would have no problem throwing in a B level prospect if that was the deal breaker for them.
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25 juin 2021 à 19 h 41
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Edler is coming back so you have to fit him somewhere.
25 juin 2021 à 19 h 49
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Quoting: PeterForsberg21
Edler is coming back so you have to fit him somewhere.


I mean that's the reports out there but I'm really not convinced it's going to happen. I think it's similar to the Tanev situation last year where if they can find what they believe to be an upgrade then they will let him go unless he signs extremely cheap. Last year it was the Schmidt acquisition, in this situation it would be my Pettersson acquisition.

In this situation to bring Edler back he would have to be willing to sign for 950k with heavy performance bonuses.
25 juin 2021 à 22 h 58
#9
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
I mean that's the reports out there but I'm really not convinced it's going to happen. I think it's similar to the Tanev situation last year where if they can find what they believe to be an upgrade then they will let him go unless he signs extremely cheap. Last year it was the Schmidt acquisition, in this situation it would be my Pettersson acquisition.

In this situation to bring Edler back he would have to be willing to sign for 950k with heavy performance bonuses.


I think both sides get a deal done, especially now with the Sedins playing a role.
26 juin 2021 à 0 h 14
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Quoting: mm1010
I think hughes contract will be a bit higher and I think the cost is more for REinhart...
Quoting: OldNYIfan
I think you're right on Reinhart's value, but the Buffalo people won't agree with us...
Quoting: Mediumyeet
Ya I would have no problem throwing in a B level prospect if that was the deal breaker for them.
Really?
In what alternate universe is an established 50 pt, 20+ goals per year RW who plays in the lowest scoring team in the NHL ONLY worth the 9th OA pick in a poor draft.
Adams may be really stupid, but he is not a baby.
Pierre-Luc Dubois was traded with a third for Jack Roslovic and Patrik Laine.
Dubois' stats are not as impressive as Sam's and Pierre-Luc plays for a playoff team, not the worse team in the NHL!
I am sure you will all remind me that Sam plays with Jack, but Jack did not play this year and Sam had the highest goal/game % of his career.
EDIT:
Let me add, you can get Pettersson, Marcus for less than that.
Move Lind and the 2021 2nd round pick (VAN) and it is closer to fair.
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26 juin 2021 à 2 h 31
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As a Pens fan, I like the offer, I would accept it as it is, but I would like to include Sam Lafferty in it.
26 juin 2021 à 12 h 48
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Not sure we need a 4M LD, never mind trade for one.
Reinhart had questions about his character early in his career with Buffalo and the same issue came up again late this past year. Apart from the fact that he's a BC kid, I'm not sure why people are falling all over themselves to throw away a 9OA pick. This guy is virtually "Matt Duchene" to a "T" and look how that trade turned out. All the signs are there for one more contract to regret before the ink is even dry....I just don't get it.
26 juin 2021 à 15 h 51
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Really?
In what alternate universe is an established 50 pt, 20+ goals per year RW who plays in the lowest scoring team in the NHL ONLY worth the 9th OA pick in a poor draft.
Adams may be really stupid, but he is not a baby.
Pierre-Luc Dubois was traded with a third for Jack Roslovic and Patrik Laine.
Dubois' stats are not as impressive as Sam's and Pierre-Luc plays for a playoff team, not the worse team in the NHL!
I am sure you will all remind me that Sam plays with Jack, but Jack did not play this year and Sam had the highest goal/game % of his career.


You're missing the whole point of his evaluation -- he's a one-year rental.
 
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