Calgary declines. While I like the idea, Calgary would get a bigger offer that helps them still compete.

Can you at least try to make a feasible offer?

Yea thats the best offer the blues could put together in this situation maybe throw in pernovich but he might want to come back to stl so they might have to accept it but i dont think he has a ntc so it wont be like hall and buffalo

This is worse than the last one.

Kyrou needs to be included

Its very feasible aslo hes value is very hard to gauge as well as i think this is the best STL can make maybe throw pernovich in as well

hell no

He doesn't have one. Blues should try to use Schenn if possible to get out of that contract before it's too late, but Calgary would have to be on his list of teams.

Scheens good as well as the blues would want to keep him if a 2c or 3c isnt coming back

It's offering an ExD bound D-man and a mid tier first for a top 10 player of his position. It's comparable to CGY offering their first and Kylington for Tarasenko. I'd say the different between Kylington and Dunn is smaller than difference between Tkachuk and Tarasenko, all things considered.

In terms of value, Tkachuk would be the No. 1 forward in STL. 1LW easily in there and way younger than anyone else there.

Its not worse its bad but not that bad

nope. its worse

I agree im just saying its there best offer no way clagry accepts this tho imo

i just saying at least i made the team better

Blues wouldn't need a 2c or 3c. They have that in Thomas and Sundqvist already.

You know what i didnt think of that
heres a revised trade
DUNN, SCHENN, 2023 FIRST for TKACUCK then we can sign Jake MCABE as well

Flames have been looking for a solid right handed shooting forward for years - because of that, a deal absolutely has to include one of Robert Thomas or Jordan Kyrou or it doesn't even get considered. From there I could see another high end prospect, and some high picks.

It's gonna be a high offer to get Tkachuk out of Calgary and this just doesn't cut it.

Couple of things wrong here.
1. Blues can protect Dunn over Krug. Seattle won't take a 6.5 milx 6 dman and if they did then oh well.
2. Tkachuk is arguably not a top 10 LW in the league. Probably not even the better Tkachuk.
3. I think the Blues would accept Kylington and Calgary's first for Vova this year. At least I would.

The original trade certainly wouldn't have gotten done, but the new one is much better.

gonna take the world to get Tkachuk, if hes available.

Much better. Calgary might want our first this year instead of waiting to 2023, but it's certainly a good deal.

calgary would easily start the convo with thomas/kyrou

1) In theory Blues CAN do whatever they like, but imo it seems pretty unlikely that they'd sign D-men like Krug and Faulk for lengthy contracts only to risk losing them immediately. Consider me surprised if that happens

2) I've very hard time listing 10 better LWs than Tkachuk if we consider all things he brings to the table. He's a solid phyiscal power forward with a skill set that rivals the elite of the league, and brings leadership as well. Brady's also good, but a step down from his older brother.

3) pretty sure no one could afford to offer that kind of offer even value wise it would work. Just set it as a value example. But it goes to show that Senko's far from what Tkachuk is.

My take is you severely overvalue your assets, or undervalue Tkachuk.

I dont undervalue Tkachuk, but let's also not act like he's deserving of a king's ransom. But I'll also say this, Calgary brought Sutter in to win now. If Calgary takes any deal for Tkachuk it will have to be one that they could improve or build depth on as Sutter doesn't like rebuilds. My overall proposal would be: Schenn + Neighbours + 16th overall and if Dunn has to be included. This helps Calgary now, gives them a good prospect and another first.

I disagree. There's not many players of his position more valuable than he is, if we consider his age, potential, and how long he's under team control as a RFA. Should CGY sell him, they'll be looking for just that king's ransom. Will they get one is an entirely different question, but should he hit the market, there will be definitely be a plethora of interested teams.

That offer seems meh. Schenn's contract makes him subject to becoming the next anchor contract. Dunn is ok but nothing groundbreaking, and as you said if CGY is about winning now these prospects don't help them in that regard.

Top LW for me are (in no particular order)

Marchand, Panarin, Kaprizov, Connor, Svechnikov, Huberdeau, Landeskog, Gaudreau, and Ovechkin are the definitely. You could make an argument for several other including Pacioretty, Guentzel, Brady (who plays on a weaker team), Forsberg and even JT Miller has stepped up his game significantly. So Matt Tkachuk is certainly close to the top 10, but not there right now.