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Équipe: 2021-22 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 24 juin 2021
Publié: 24 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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all pending ufas in any deal extend with team traded to
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RFAANSCAP HIT
43 750 000 $
21 250 000 $
13 333 333 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
35 000 000 $
65 750 000 $
44 500 000 $
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PHI
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
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PHI
SEA
  1. Voracek, Jakub
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
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PHI
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
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PHI
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
BUF
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
  2. Konecny, Travis
  3. Myers, Philippe
  4. Patrick, Nolan
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
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PHI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $71 420 595 $0 $1 507 500 $10 079 405 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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NMC
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
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3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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RFA - 1
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780 833 $780 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
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1 075 000 $1 075 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
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24 juin 2021 à 9 h 57
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Not even close for eichel
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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
Not even close for eichel


if a 1st 2nd top 4 top 6 d 25+ goal scorer with term and good contract a former second overall pick whos young and controlled and needs a fresh start is not even close for an injured 85-90 pt max guy on a crappy rebuilder then youre off your absolute rocker pal
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24 juin 2021 à 10 h 5
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I think the issue with the Courturier trade is the fact he's a UFA after this season and I doubt MIN gives up that much for a guy they could lose after one year. If he was still under contract for a few years then I'd say there's something to work with.
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24 juin 2021 à 10 h 7
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Not even close for eichel


I think what people keep getting wrong with the the Eichel trade is it doesn't make sense for Buffalo to go get players back in the deal. Maybe one ok player to balance out the financial part of it, but Buffalo is planning on going back into another rebuild. The Eichel trades should be largely high pick/top prospects-based.

If Buffalo was looking to compete this probably still isn't great, but it would be a more appropriate type of trade.
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24 juin 2021 à 10 h 7
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I think the issue with the Courturier trade is the fact he's a UFA after this season and I doubt MIN gives up that much for a guy they could lose after one year. If he was still under contract for a few years then I'd say there's something to work with.


As great as courturier is, this wouldn’t happen with him as a rental. Especially the wild adding this much. A hockey trade would be more likey, but based on term the wild would not be adding a 1st and 3rd by any imagination.
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 9
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I think the eichel return is going to be so underwhelming from every team. No rebuilding team with the cap space is going to give up their farm and any team that is “1 piece away” won’t have the cap space or strong enough farm system to get him without sending back mainly nhl players. So it’s a perfect storm of screwing the sabres.
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 11
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I think the issue with the Courturier trade is the fact he's a UFA after this season and I doubt MIN gives up that much for a guy they could lose after one year. If he was still under contract for a few years then I'd say there's something to work with.


fair however i would think this comes with an extension however
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 12
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The Wild take that and run like a mofo.
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24 juin 2021 à 10 h 18
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Quoting: mokumboi
The Wild take that and run like a mofo.


Courturier is a UFA after this coming season. I'm sure the Wild pump the breaks.
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24 juin 2021 à 10 h 20
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Quoting: MurkasPyrulas
fair however i would think this comes with an extension however


95% of extension talk is nonsense....Minni doesn't do the trade. And the Flyers gave up way too much for the two rentals in Jones and the very average Korpisalo.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Courturier is a UFA after this coming season. I'm sure the Wild pump the breaks.


okay same deal but couturier agrees to extension
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 20
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Quoting: palhal
95% of extension talk is nonsense....Minni doesn't do the trade. And the Flyers gave up way too much for the two rentals in Jones and the very average Korpisalo.


resign jones
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 24
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resign jones


Never base a trade on this fantasy of resigning. What is Jones motivation to forgo his free agency just to sign with the Flyers? Flyers make that trade, then they feel they have to justify the trade by overpaying Jones as an upcoming UFA.
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 26
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Never base a trade on this fantasy of resigning. What is Jones motivation to forgo his free agency just to sign with the Flyers? Flyers make that trade, then they feel they have to justify the trade by overpaying Jones as an upcoming UFA.


okay youre thinking of this wayyy to much im just saying in this case in this one scenario with all these other players and moves (just in this case) its a good team and there would be no need to overpay or gauge if its a contender which in this case is pretty close
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 26
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Never base a trade on this fantasy of resigning. What is Jones motivation to forgo his free agency just to sign with the Flyers? Flyers make that trade, then they feel they have to justify the trade by overpaying Jones as an upcoming UFA.


in the literal sense you mean i totally agree
24 juin 2021 à 11 h 47
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yes from NJ
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24 juin 2021 à 12 h 47
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Courturier is a UFA after this coming season. I'm sure the Wild pump the breaks.



Well, I mean... they can sign him to a new deal.
24 juin 2021 à 13 h 56
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I think what people keep getting wrong with the the Eichel trade is it doesn't make sense for Buffalo to go get players back in the deal. Maybe one ok player to balance out the financial part of it, but Buffalo is planning on going back into another rebuild. The Eichel trades should be largely high pick/top prospects-based.

If Buffalo was looking to compete this probably still isn't great, but it would be a more appropriate type of trade.


I mean yeah definitelynlook for futures. If they were looking to compete it would have to be wayyyyyyyyy better than an above average wing an overpaid dman a total question mark, a mid first and 2nd.
24 juin 2021 à 14 h 1
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if a 1st 2nd top 4 top 6 d 25+ goal scorer with term and good contract a former second overall pick whos young and controlled and needs a fresh start is not even close for an injured 85-90 pt max guy on a crappy rebuilder then youre off your absolute rocker pal


If you think this is remotely close I don't know what to tell you pal.

TK is an above average winger. Good start.
Nolan. Is a total question mark literally might not ever be relevant. Not valuable
Ghost is not good. Over paid. Close to negative value.
Meyers a top 4 dman to team with way too many dmen. Some value.
A 1st and a 2nd? Some value.

You are probably 2 firsts and Frost away from being close
24 juin 2021 à 14 h 3
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I think what people keep getting wrong with the the Eichel trade is it doesn't make sense for Buffalo to go get players back in the deal. Maybe one ok player to balance out the financial part of it, but Buffalo is planning on going back into another rebuild. The Eichel trades should be largely high pick/top prospects-based.

If Buffalo was looking to compete this probably still isn't great, but it would be a more appropriate type of trade.


Ummm...outside of Ghost (who would just be salary moving) every player involved is 24 or younger. Why wouldn't they want that?
24 juin 2021 à 14 h 3
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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
Not even close for eichel


Not even close? This is an overpay tears of joy
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24 juin 2021 à 14 h 59
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Well, I mean... they can sign him to a new deal.


It's just that simple. lol
24 juin 2021 à 15 h 1
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Ummm...outside of Ghost (who would just be salary moving) every player involved is 24 or younger. Why wouldn't they want that?


Because they're not looking to compete NOW. 24 is the beginning of the prime years, so why would they want to waste prime years when they're prepared to build around those guys right now?
24 juin 2021 à 15 h 9
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Because they're not looking to compete NOW. 24 is the beginning of the prime years, so why would they want to waste prime years when they're prepared to build around those guys right now?


Oh I forgot than anyone over 27 is now old and useless...my bad!
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24 juin 2021 à 15 h 21
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Oh I forgot than anyone over 27 is now old and useless...my bad!


Yes, because that's what I meant.
 
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