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Créé par: Doublezee
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 23 juin 2021
Publié: 23 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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EDM
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Jones, Caleb
  2. Koskinen, Mikko (1 500 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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CHI
  1. Niemeläinen, Markus
  2. Rodrigue, Olivier
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
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EDM
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
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23 juin 2021 à 22 h 56
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PlusMinus is stupid
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Where? I don't see the long term, overpaid contracts with NTCs for average players?
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23 juin 2021 à 22 h 56
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PULL A TAMPA IGNORE
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Lightning offer their 7 that's it
23 juin 2021 à 22 h 56
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Chicago easily rejects
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23 juin 2021 à 22 h 58
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why would boston take koskinens contract for you hes trash. even to make a normal trade go through edmonton has to add a 1st or a top 8 prospect on their team. Bruins don't need bottom pairing LHD, i would choose lauzon, zboril and moore over jones hes useless to boston, i think you edmonton fans forget what debrusk can be 22gls per 82 games playing with krecji and coyle, now imagine what he would do with mcdavid or draisaitl. the whole league also knows edmontons winger depth sucks so if you want to trade for young wingers with potential teams will make you pay more
23 juin 2021 à 23 h 2
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I think all 3 trades would be declined by the respective organisations. They all favour EDM
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24 juin 2021 à 0 h 0
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Bruins thank you for the laugh and decline.

Pretty amazing you could offer nothing of use or value and think it works. Lol.
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24 juin 2021 à 7 h 18
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Hey look another DeBrusk/Jones deal.

A depth d-man Boston doesn't need
A 32yr old goalie that sucks
And 3 scratch tickets

No thanks, we'll just keep DeBrusk
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24 juin 2021 à 12 h 41
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Quoting: Beetlejuice
Chicago easily rejects


Maybe. Swap the 3rd and make it a 1st and it’s a done deal, but I want a 6th coming back
24 juin 2021 à 12 h 45
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Hey look another DeBrusk/Jones deal.

A depth d-man Boston doesn't need
A 32yr old goalie that sucks
And 3 scratch tickets

No thanks, we'll just keep DeBrusk


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Bruins thank you for the laugh and decline.

Pretty amazing you could offer nothing of use or value and think it works. Lol.


Quoting: Dekes
why would boston take koskinens contract for you hes trash. even to make a normal trade go through edmonton has to add a 1st or a top 8 prospect on their team. Bruins don't need bottom pairing LHD, i would choose lauzon, zboril and moore over jones hes useless to boston, i think you edmonton fans forget what debrusk can be 22gls per 82 games playing with krecji and coyle, now imagine what he would do with mcdavid or draisaitl. the whole league also knows edmontons winger depth sucks so if you want to trade for young wingers with potential teams will make you pay more


Ha ha. What a surprise the bruins fans are coming in hot. Halal is gone, Koskinen 1.5 mil retained, he’s your backup with only 1 year left. Mike Reilly is gone, Jones is instantly your second best LD, if the league knowing oilers are desperate for a left winger and that will hamper their trade proposals, then the league knowing your head coach hates debrusk and he can’t properly be showcased decreases his value (your logic not mine)

Handful of “scratch tickets”, ok it’s a handful of draft picks which your team will need going into a rebuild after this year. I can see the insecurity and anger from b fans knowing their team is heading into descent. Fun to watch, thanks for coming
24 juin 2021 à 12 h 48
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Quoting: Zachzeller
Ha ha. What a surprise the bruins fans are coming in hot. Halal is gone, Koskinen 1.5 mil retained, he’s your backup with only 1 year left. Mike Reilly is gone, Jones is instantly your second best LD, if the league knowing oilers are desperate for a left winger and that will hamper their trade proposals, then the league knowing your head coach hates debrusk and he can’t properly be showcased decreases his value (your logic not mine)

Handful of “scratch tickets”, ok it’s a handful of draft picks which your team will need going into a rebuild after this year. I can see the insecurity and anger from b fans knowing their team is heading into descent. Fun to watch, thanks for coming


Swayman and Vlad are better than Koskinen already. Jones is a 6/7. Can get those anywhere. Nothing of value or need for Boston there.

If they are concerned about a goalie they can sign a free agent like Reimer or Raanta at half the cost without giving up assets.
24 juin 2021 à 12 h 50
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Swayman and Vlad are better than Koskinen already. Jones is a 6/7. Can get those anywhere. Nothing of value or need for Boston there.

Rask is gone too buds
24 juin 2021 à 12 h 56
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Rask is gone too buds


Maybe. Maybe til Feb. don’t care. Swayman was great and there are plenty of free agents. Koski sucks.
24 juin 2021 à 14 h 16
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Ha ha. What a surprise the bruins fans are coming in hot. Halal is gone, Koskinen 1.5 mil retained, he’s your backup with only 1 year left. Mike Reilly is gone, Jones is instantly your second best LD, if the league knowing oilers are desperate for a left winger and that will hamper their trade proposals, then the league knowing your head coach hates debrusk and he can’t properly be showcased decreases his value (your logic not mine)

Handful of “scratch tickets”, ok it’s a handful of draft picks which your team will need going into a rebuild after this year. I can see the insecurity and anger from b fans knowing their team is heading into descent. Fun to watch, thanks for coming


-Halak lost his job to Swayman and Koskinen isn't even worth being a back-up.
-No idea if Reilly will be back (Boston has interest), but to think Jones becomes our 2nd best LHD is laughable and shows your lack of knowledge on the Bruins players. Also funny that in your ACGM's Jones is either gone in expansion or you sign other guys and he's not even in your top 6.
-Cassidy doesn't hate DeBrusk, that's some **** made up by unknowledge fans and click bait hockey writers.

Now on the draft picks. Looking at historical data the odds of a player playing 100+ games in the NHL round....

2nd round - 34%
3rd round - 27%
5th round - 15%

So the odds of hitting on an NHL regular are slim at best.

There is zero insecurity and anger from B's fans. We know the window is closing and we're in win now mode. The offer you have hear doesn't do anything to help them win now. It could be worse for Bruins fans though and we could have had the number 1 pick in 4 of the last 11 years and still only qualified for the playoff 3 times in that time frame. We could have been gifted a generational player only to see our franchise over the next 6 years still accomplish nothing. Imagine trying to chirp a fanbase when in the last two years your own teams was swept by the 2nd lowest P% team in the playoffs and the year before managed 1 win game vs a team that finished dead last in their division and was barley playing .500 hockey.

cheers
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24 juin 2021 à 14 h 46
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Quoting: ON3M4N
-Halak lost his job to Swayman and Koskinen isn't even worth being a back-up.
-No idea if Reilly will be back (Boston has interest), but to think Jones becomes our 2nd best LHD is laughable and shows your lack of knowledge on the Bruins players. Also funny that in your ACGM's Jones is either gone in expansion or you sign other guys and he's not even in your top 6.
-Cassidy doesn't hate DeBrusk, that's some **** made up by unknowledge fans and click bait hockey writers.

Now on the draft picks. Looking at historical data the odds of a player playing 100+ games in the NHL round....

2nd round - 34%
3rd round - 27%
5th round - 15%

So the odds of hitting on an NHL regular are slim at best.

There is zero insecurity and anger from B's fans. We know the window is closing and we're in win now mode. The offer you have hear doesn't do anything to help them win now. It could be worse for Bruins fans though and we could have had the number 1 pick in 4 of the last 11 years and still only qualified for the playoff 3 times in that time frame. We could have been gifted a generational player only to see our franchise over the next 6 years still accomplish nothing. Imagine trying to chirp a fanbase when in the last two years your own teams was swept by the 2nd lowest P% team in the playoffs and the year before managed 1 win game vs a team that finished dead last in their division and was barley playing .500 hockey.

cheers


Haha bringing up oilers faults of the past, nothing to do with these trade proposals and B’s future, thanks for proving my point. Bruins are sliding my friend. Also, gryzl is better than Jones... who else? He should be in our second pairing but tipp won’t give him a shot.
24 juin 2021 à 15 h 15
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Haha bringing up oilers faults of the past, nothing to do with these trade proposals and B’s future, thanks for proving my point. Bruins are sliding my friend. Also, gryzl is better than Jones... who else? He should be in our second pairing but tipp won’t give him a shot.


You had no point. Your proposal was blown out of the water because of how bad it was and you got defensive. You attempted to take a shot at Bruins fans and failed worse then your trade proposal. I'll let others deal with your clown takes because your just a waste of my time and clearly you don't add anything of value to a hockey discussion.
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24 juin 2021 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: ON3M4N
You had no point. Your proposal was blown out of the water because of how bad it was and you got defensive. You attempted to take a shot at Bruins fans and failed worse then your trade proposal. I'll let others deal with your clown takes because your just a waste of my time and clearly you don't add anything of value to a hockey discussion.


Quoting: ON3M4N
You had no point. Your proposal was blown out of the water because of how bad it was and you got defensive. You attempted to take a shot at Bruins fans and failed worse then your trade proposal. I'll let others deal with your clown takes because your just a waste of my time and clearly you don't add anything of value to a hockey discussion.


I stand by the trade. Bruins missing playoffs next year! 😜 see you in this thread April 2022
24 juin 2021 à 15 h 29
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Quoting: Zachzeller
Ha ha. What a surprise the bruins fans are coming in hot. Halal is gone, Koskinen 1.5 mil retained, he’s your backup with only 1 year left. Mike Reilly is gone, Jones is instantly your second best LD, if the league knowing oilers are desperate for a left winger and that will hamper their trade proposals, then the league knowing your head coach hates debrusk and he can’t properly be showcased decreases his value (your logic not mine)

Handful of “scratch tickets”, ok it’s a handful of draft picks which your team will need going into a rebuild after this year. I can see the insecurity and anger from b fans knowing their team is heading into descent. Fun to watch, thanks for coming



What are you talking cassidy is disappointed in debrusk production this year he doesn’t hate him, Jones is also not our 2nd bets LHD I’d take lauzon over him any day Jones could barely even start in Edmonton he played no playoff games and played half the regular season, bruins could get a defenceman 3 times Jones caliber in free agency without losing debrusk. Sweeney would laugh at Edmonton if they offered that deal, I’d rather have vladar as our back up then koskinen. St. Louis has been talked about offering Vince Dunn for debrusk who is actually a good defenceman he’s produces well offensively while played bottom 6 minutes and only limited PP time, he has yet to even each his potential. If Edmonton wants debrusk you can offer us Jesse P, your first and a b tier prospect or broberg and maybe we add. And if you think Edmonton will be winning the cup anytime soon you are a joke, Edmonton has proven time and time again they never can get a supporting cast to build around their stars sooner or later mcdavid or draisaitl will get fed up and will leave
24 juin 2021 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: Dekes
What are you talking cassidy is disappointed in debrusk production this year he doesn’t hate him, Jones is also not our 2nd bets LHD I’d take lauzon over him any day Jones could barely even start in Edmonton he played no playoff games and played half the regular season, bruins could get a defenceman 3 times Jones caliber in free agency without losing debrusk. Sweeney would laugh at Edmonton if they offered that deal, I’d rather have vladar as our back up then koskinen. St. Louis has been talked about offering Vince Dunn for debrusk who is actually a good defenceman he’s produces well offensively while played bottom 6 minutes and only limited PP time, he has yet to even each his potential. If Edmonton wants debrusk you can offer us Jesse P, your first and a b tier prospect or broberg and maybe we add.


Ok the first half was sensible and then we have to offer jesse p plus plus? Idk I like debrusk but he’s been way overvalued here.
24 juin 2021 à 15 h 46
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Ok the first half was sensible and then we have to offer jesse p plus plus? Idk I like debrusk but he’s been way overvalued here.



Oops I meant Jesse p or a first and prospect or broberg and we add
24 juin 2021 à 16 h 39
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Quoting: Dekes
Oops I meant Jesse p or a first and prospect or broberg and we add


Now we’re talking! I still hate it
24 juin 2021 à 18 h 8
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Quoting: Zachzeller
Now we’re talking! I still hate it



I would Jesse but I think Edmonton wants more wingers so I doubt they would move him, I like him and think he’s good but I think he’s just a little over valued as he did play with either mcdavid or draisaitl all season. I think debrusk and Jesse have pretty similar values it just all depends on what you want more speed or more size and bruins want size
24 juin 2021 à 22 h 2
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Quoting: Dekes
I would Jesse but I think Edmonton wants more wingers so I doubt they would move him, I like him and think he’s good but I think he’s just a little over valued as he did play with either mcdavid or draisaitl all season. I think debrusk and Jesse have pretty similar values it just all depends on what you want more speed or more size and bruins want size


Jp has a higher ceiling I’d say
 
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