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What do they pay to dump

Créé par: TheWolfe
Date de création initiale: jun 1, 2021
Publié: 22 jun à 12 h 38
Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit
Explications
Though Stevie does not have a history of taking on cap dumps, I think the wings would be daft not to weaponize their cap space this off season by taking on a couple bad contracts for picks.

The flat cap is putting a lot of teams in a bind, but the expansion draft may also be an option for teams looking to unload bad deals.

I assembled a few of the deals I thought it would make the most sense for Detroit to take on. So, with all that considered, what do we think Detroit gets for taking any of these contracts/what would these teams be willing to pay?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler55 500 000 $
Cholowski, Dennis21 500 000 $
Erne, Adam21 500 000 $
Hronek, Filip63 750 000 $
Lindström, Gustav21 250 000 $
Pearson, Chase2950 000 $
Rasmussen, Michael2950 000 $
Smith, Givani2950 000 $
Svechnikov, Evgeny2950 000 $
Verbeek, Hayden2950 000 $
Vrána, Jakub66 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Bernier, Jonathan23 000 000 $
Gagner, Sam1850 000 $
Glendening, Luke11 000 000 $
Hirose, Taro1850 000 $
Oleksiak, Jamie53 500 000 $
Ryan, Bobby11 000 000 $
Transactions
DET
    Expansion
    SEA
    1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
    DET
    1. Eriksson, Loui
    VAN
      DET
      1. Ladd, Andrew
      2. Boychuk, Johnny
      NYI
        DET
        1. Neal, James
        EDM
          Rachats de contrats
          • Justin Abdelkader: 2 305 556 $
          Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
          • Richard Pánik: 1 375 000 $ (50%)
          ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
          2021
          WSH
          DET
          EDM
          NYR
          DET
          VGK
          DET
          DET
          TBL
          DET
          OTT
          DET
          2022
          DET
          WSH
          DET
          DET
          DET
          COL
          VGK
          DET
          DET
          DET
          2023
          DET
          DET
          DET
          DET
          DET
          DET
          DET
          TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
          2781 500 000 $81 057 223 $0 $2 018 750 $442 777 $
          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
          DET
          Vrána, Jakub
          6 000 000 $
          AG
          UFA - 3
          DET
          Larkin, Dylan
          6 100 000 $
          C, AG
          UFA - 2
          DET
          Zadina, Filip
          894 167 $
          AG, AD
          RFA - 1
          DET
          Erne, Adam
          1 500 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 2
          DET
          Veleno, Joseph
          894 167 $
          C
          RFA - 2
          DET
          Bertuzzi, Tyler
          5 500 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 2
          DET
          Fabbri, Robby
          2 950 000 $
          AG, C
          UFA - 1
          DET
          Rasmussen, Michael
          950 000 $
          AG, C, AD
          RFA - 3
          DET
          Ryan, Bobby
          1 000 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA
          DET
          Smith, Givani
          950 000 $
          AG
          RFA - 2
          DET
          Glendening, Luke
          1 000 000 $
          C, AD, AG
          UFA - 2
          DET
          Pánik, Richard
          1 375 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 2
          VAN
          Eriksson, Loui
          6 000 000 $
          AG, AD
          NTC
          UFA - 1
          EDM
          Neal, James
          5 750 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 2
          NYI
          Ladd, Andrew
          5 500 000 $
          AG
          NTC
          UFA - 2
          EDM
          Neal, James
          750 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 1
          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
          Oleksiak, Jamie
          3 500 000 $
          DG
          NTC
          UFA - 5
          DET
          Hronek, Filip
          3 750 000 $
          DD
          RFA - 3
          DET
          Greiss, Thomas
          3 600 000 $
          G
          UFA - 1
          DET
          Lindström, Gustav
          1 250 000 $
          DD
          RFA - 2
          DET
          Seider, Moritz
          863 333 $
          DD
          RFA - 3
          DET
          Bernier, Jonathan
          3 000 000 $
          G
          UFA - 2
          DET
          Cholowski, Dennis
          1 500 000 $
          DG
          RFA - 1
          DET
          Stecher, Troy
          1 700 000 $
          DD
          UFA - 1
          Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
          DET
          Gagner, Sam
          850 000 $
          C, AD
          UFA - 1
          NYI
          Boychuk, Johnny
          6 000 000 $
          DD
          NTC
          UFA - 1
          DET
          DeKeyser, Danny
          5 000 000 $
          DG
          NTC
          UFA - 1
          DET
          Nielsen, Frans
          5 250 000 $
          C, AG
          NTC
          UFA - 1

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          22 jun à 12 h 46
          #1
          KFTW
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          I think Boychuk stays on LTIR but maybe Bellows and a 2nd to dump Ladd
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          22 jun à 12 h 50
          #2
          STL V5 GM
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          I heard a rumour that DET is in talks with Killorn
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          22 jun à 12 h 51
          #3
          KFTW
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          Quoting: LGuy54
          I heard a rumour that DET is in talks with Killorn


          If I’m Detroit I get Killorn and sign Danault. Good way to shelter the youth too
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          22 jun à 12 h 51
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          I think the OIlers would need to pay a 1st plus convince a team to take Neal but in reality I don't think the Oilers are willing to pay the price and will just buy out.
          22 jun à 13 h 06
          #5
          Mac1010
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          Quoting: rpain
          I think the OIlers would need to pay a 1st plus convince a team to take Neal but in reality I don't think the Oilers are willing to pay the price and will just buy out.


          I agree or they will find a team that they can retain and only spend a 2nd or less.
          22 jun à 13 h 09
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          I think the price for Eriksson would be a second round pick. Ladd would probably be a first or a second and a good prospect which islanders have alot of. Boychuk stays on LTIR I think. Neal is also a first I would think or a second and a prospect like Lavoie.
          Alot of other cap dump options in the league with Gardiner, gostisbehere, hagelin, Copley, Okposo, yandle, quick, Brown, Tyler Johnson, Martin Jones, koskinen, Roussel, beagle just to name a few
          22 jun à 14 h 17
          #7
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          Quoting: mm1010
          I agree or they will find a team that they can retain and only spend a 2nd or less.


          The issue with retaining is how much will they retain. A buy-out only costs us $2mil/year. If we retain 50% it costs more in years 1 and 2 which doesn't make sense for us, even retaining 33% is break-even is just spending assets to save money in 3 years which doesn't make that strong of a case.
          22 jun à 14 h 24
          #8
          Mac1010
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          Quoting: rpain
          The issue with retaining is how much will they retain. A buy-out only costs us $2mil/year. If we retain 50% it costs more in years 1 and 2 which doesn't make sense for us, even retaining 33% is break-even is just spending assets to save money in 3 years which doesn't make that strong of a case.


          years 1-2 of a buy out is ok as they should be looking at being a better play off team.
          years 3-4 they should be looking at contending for a cup. that would have almost 2 million in dead space that year.

          If you can get rid of neal and have extra cap space now and not be penalized for 4years when you want to be competitive you do it.
          22 jun à 14 h 27
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          NoCupsForCanada
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          Quoting: Lancebmx
          I think the price for Eriksson would be a second round pick. Ladd would probably be a first or a second and a good prospect which islanders have alot of. Boychuk stays on LTIR I think. Neal is also a first I would think or a second and a prospect like Lavoie.
          Alot of other cap dump options in the league with Gardiner, gostisbehere, hagelin, Copley, Okposo, yandle, quick, Brown, Tyler Johnson, Martin Jones, koskinen, Roussel, beagle just to name a few


          The reason I threw Boychuck on there is I'm not certain if his contract is insured our not. Isle aren't one of the richer teams in the league so if they still have to pay his salary, I'm sure they wouldn't mind getting it off the books. Don't know if that's the case though.
          22 jun à 14 h 29
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          Quoting: rpain
          I think the OIlers would need to pay a 1st plus convince a team to take Neal but in reality I don't think the Oilers are willing to pay the price and will just buy out.


          Yeah that's the hang-up with the Oilers and Neal, I don't think they're willing to burn a first to offload that deal which is honestly what it would take unless they were willing to offload a prospect. Which I don't think they are.
          22 jun à 14 h 41
          #11
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          Quoting: TheWolfe
          Yeah that's the hang-up with the Oilers and Neal, I don't think they're willing to burn a first to offload that deal which is honestly what it would take unless they were willing to offload a prospect. Which I don't think they are.


          That's the conclusion I keep coming around to. The Oilers in the end aren't going to be willing to pay market value to dump him.
           
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