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Realistic attempt for Eichel

Créé par: LittleBroDougie
Équipe: 2021-22 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 19 juin 2021
Publié: 19 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Flames trade 2021 futures to go for it but stock up on 2022+ futures in case of a bust
Vegas needs center depth; flames need RW depth
Extend Johnny to 8.5M for 6 years
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1950 000 $
1900 000 $
2950 000 $
21 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
67 000 000 $
11 750 000 $
1850 000 $
11 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Dubé, Dillon [Droits de RFA]
  2. Tkachuk, Matthew
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
2.
CGY
  1. Tuch, Alex
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
VGK
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
Retain 1.625M to offset difference
3.
CGY
SEA
  1. Giordano, Mark
Détails additionnels:
Expansion
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $73 627 499 $0 $15 000 $7 872 501 $
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
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2 425 000 $2 425 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 8
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4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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801 666 $801 666 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
UFA - 3
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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19 juin 2021 à 19 h 35
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That Monahan trade is bad for Calgary and the Nuge contract is even worse. I love Tuch, but he's not the same level of player as Monahan and if you have the Flames retaining (which makes that trade even worse), like it says they are over the cap

Oh sweet jesus, I missed that god awful Simmonds contract
19 juin 2021 à 20 h 9
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Thanks Captain Negative I'll build a team of McDavid's next time!

Edit: Tuch is better than Monny and on a better deal
19 juin 2021 à 20 h 23
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Quoting: Lunatik
That Monahan trade is bad for Calgary and the Nuge contract is even worse. I love Tuch, but he's not the same level of player as Monahan and if you have the Flames retaining (which makes that trade even worse), like it says they are over the cap

Oh sweet jesus, I missed that god awful Simmonds contract


I actually disagree with everything you said here.
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19 juin 2021 à 21 h 10
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I actually disagree with everything you said here.

Monahan has literally had 2 seasons in his entire career worse than Tuch's best season, his rookie season and this year where he played 3/4 of the season injured (and was still putting up a pace just 7 points shy of Tuch's best); on top of that Monahan also plays the more important position. It's not like there is some huge age gap either, Monahan is only a year and a half older. So I really don't care if you disagree, you are wrong.
19 juin 2021 à 21 h 19
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Imo that’s close on Jack but I’d want 2 good prospects Dube, Pelletier or Zary.
20 juin 2021 à 19 h 38
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Quoting: Lunatik
Monahan has literally had 2 seasons in his entire career worse than Tuch's best season, his rookie season and this year where he played 3/4 of the season injured (and was still putting up a pace just 7 points shy of Tuch's best); on top of that Monahan also plays the more important position. It's not like there is some huge age gap either, Monahan is only a year and a half older. So I really don't care if you disagree, you are wrong.


Monahan is regressing hard. It's his 3rd straight season of major surgery and both his counting and possession numbers have declined with each one. He's also a product of Johnny and is completely useless away from him.

Tuch's been driving offense from the third line his whole career. He's only just recently started playing with top-6 guys. Plus he fills a huge need as a RH RW on a team-friendly contract.

So maybe I'd refine the picks slightly to a conditional or something but he's still better.
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20 juin 2021 à 19 h 41
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Quoting: timmeejr
Imo that’s close on Jack but I’d want 2 good prospects Dube, Pelletier or Zary.


Tkachuk, Dube, Pelletier/Zary, 1st?

That's too much. Tkachuk could easily become the face of the franchise alone. I'd have to remove Dube in that case at least.
20 juin 2021 à 23 h 29
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Monahan is regressing hard. It's his 3rd straight season of major surgery and both his counting and possession numbers have declined with each one. He's also a product of Johnny and is completely useless away from him.

Tuch's been driving offense from the third line his whole career. He's only just recently started playing with top-6 guys. Plus he fills a huge need as a RH RW on a team-friendly contract.

So maybe I'd refine the picks slightly to a conditional or something but he's still better.

Monahan had a poor year for his standards in 2019-20 (so did the entire top line but people like you only blame Monahan) but this year he was playing great until he was injured. Claiming he's regressing hard is a false narrative that the ill-informed cite.

Only a complete buffoon would actually believe Tuch is a better player.
20 juin 2021 à 23 h 42
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Quoting: Lunatik
Monahan had a poor year for his standards in 2019-20 (so did the entire top line but people like you only blame Monahan) but this year he was playing great until he was injured. Claiming he's regressing hard is a false narrative that the ill-informed cite.

Only a complete buffoon would actually believe Tuch is a better player.


Learn to read. Johnny and Lindholm had exceptional years from a team relative perspective indicating a down year in 2019-20 (exception not the norm). Monahan meanwhile peaked in 2018-19 and has been declining ever since.

All of your "facts" are opinions. Your main argument is name calling, congrats on admitting defeat.

I'd direct you to some advanced stats charts but they'd be so far over your head it'd be a waste of time.
21 juin 2021 à 10 h 41
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Quoting: LittleBroDougie
Tkachuk, Dube, Pelletier/Zary, 1st?

That's too much. Tkachuk could easily become the face of the franchise alone. I'd have to remove Dube in that case at least.


Tkachuck "could" become the face of the franchise, however, Eichel WILL be the face of the franchise. We're talking a PPG player on the worst team in the league, give him some talent, and I bet you'll see 100 points out of Jack. Also, removing Dube means we'd need both Zary/Pellitier. Don't forget what the other teams have that Calgary doesn't is a top 10 pick...

Also, if Tkachuck is so good(which he is), why does all of Calgary want him gone?
25 juin 2021 à 1 h 10
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Quoting: timmeejr
Tkachuck "could" become the face of the franchise, however, Eichel WILL be the face of the franchise. We're talking a PPG player on the worst team in the league, give him some talent, and I bet you'll see 100 points out of Jack. Also, removing Dube means we'd need both Zary/Pellitier. Don't forget what the other teams have that Calgary doesn't is a top 10 pick...

Also, if Tkachuck is so good(which he is), why does all of Calgary want him gone?


Pelletier and Zary will be better than Dube I think and I love Dube (I customized my favourite jersey with him).

Also literally nobody wants Tkachuk gone in Calgary. These "rumours" have been fabricated from out of town low level media writers to get clicks. Flames fans just really want a 1C and Eichel is the only one available.

Most flames fans I talk to aren't even willing to trade Chucky straight up for Eichel.
 
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