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Eichel thought I had

Créé par: drmantalban
Date de création initiale: jun 18, 2021
Publié: 18 jun à 11 h 24
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Explications
BUF has no interest in Dumba, so Schmaltz is a setup move. BUF gets immediate center replacement and future replacement in Rossi.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Menell, Brennan1975 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Kaprizov, Kirill57 500 000 $
Fiala, Kevin56 500 000 $
Eriksson Ek, Joel44 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Cole, Ian22 000 000 $
Transactions
MIN
    SEA
    1. Soucy, Carson
    MIN
    1. Schmaltz, Nick
    ARI
    1. Dumba, Matt
    MIN
    1. Eichel, Jack
    BUF
    1. Schmaltz, Nick
    2. Rask, Victor
    3. Rossi, Marco
    4. Khovanov, Alexander
    5. 2021 1e round pick (PIT)
    6. 2021 1e round pick (MIN)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    MIN
    MIN
    PIT
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    2022
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    SJS
    MIN
    2023
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2081 500 000 $80 895 257 $0 $815 000 $604 743 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    MIN
    Zuccarello, Mats
    6 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    BUF
    Eichel, Jack
    10 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    MIN
    Kaprizov, Kirill
    7 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA
    MIN
    Boldy, Matthew
    880 833 $
    C
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Eriksson Ek, Joel
    4 750 000 $
    C
    UFA - 8
    MIN
    Fiala, Kevin
    6 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA
    MIN
    Greenway, Jordan
    2 100 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Sturm, Nico
    725 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Dewar, Connor
    825 833 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Parise, Zach
    7 538 462 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    MIN
    Hartman, Ryan
    1 700 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 3
    MIN
    Foligno, Marcus
    3 100 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    MIN
    Suter, Ryan
    7 538 462 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    MIN
    Spurgeon, Jared
    7 575 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    MIN
    Talbot, Cam
    3 666 667 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Brodin, Jonas
    6 000 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    MIN
    Menell, Brennan
    975 000 $
    D
    RFA
    MIN
    Kähkönen, Kaapo
    725 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Cole, Ian
    2 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA
    MIN
    Addison, Calen
    795 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2

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    18 jun à 11 h 27
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    I think Buffalo would love to take Dumba off your hands. With Risto on the move and Miller headed to Seattle we'll have a need for a RHD.
    That said I'm not crazy about your trade with that change but it's fine. Like all Buffalo fans I want Fiala lol
    18 jun à 11 h 27
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    I'm just not sure if AZ makes that trade. It's a fair trade on paper, but AZ is severely thin on C. I also don't know what AZ's plan is. Are they going into a full rebuild? If so, they're probably just looking for futures.
    18 jun à 11 h 42
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    Quoting: Chapee44
    I think Buffalo would love to take Dumba off your hands. With Risto on the move and Miller headed to Seattle we'll have a need for a RHD.
    That said I'm not crazy about your trade with that change but it's fine. Like all Buffalo fans I want Fiala lol


    That's just it though. No one with legitimate knowledge has said the Sabers don't or wouldn't want Dumba... just a lot of Saber fans here at CapFriendly instead insisting they don't.

    I don't necessarily think Rossi is the prospect Sabres should want either. Boldy however is. You already have Cozens. You'll likely have a shot at one of the 5 franchise centers coming out of the 22 and 23 drafts. Having both Rossi and Cozens is kinda redundant after that point.
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    18 jun à 11 h 42
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    Quoting: Chapee44
    I think Buffalo would love to take Dumba off your hands. With Risto on the move and Miller headed to Seattle we'll have a need for a RHD.
    That said I'm not crazy about your trade with that change but it's fine. Like all Buffalo fans I want Fiala lol


    I agree with you that BUF could use Dumba but there’s a lot of BUF fans that express no interest in him on this site. Lots of Eichel to MIN proposals have dumbs going to buf and that’s always a sticking point. Wanting Fiala is hard to argue with. He’s electric and I love having him.
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    18 jun à 11 h 45
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    I'm just not sure if AZ makes that trade. It's a fair trade on paper, but AZ is severely thin on C. I also don't know what AZ's plan is. Are they going into a full rebuild? If so, they're probably just looking for futures.


    AZ has Dvorak, Hayton and Larsson, which isn’t great but I don’t think they’re in too bad of shape. I think their D situation is worse. Look at that depth chart. But def agree on it depending what they want to do. Their prospect pool is quite bad and they don’t have a 1st this year, so they may want to look at restocking some picks and prospects.
    18 jun à 11 h 56
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    Quoting: RazWild
    That's just it though. No one with legitimate knowledge has said the Sabers don't or wouldn't want Dumba... just a lot of Saber fans here at CapFriendly instead insisting they don't.

    I don't necessarily think Rossi is the prospect Sabres should want either. Boldy however is. You already have Cozens. You'll likely have a shot at one of the 5 franchise centers coming out of the 22 and 23 drafts. Having both Rossi and Cozens is kinda redundant after that point.


    My dream is Boldy, Fiala, Dumba and a 1st but I'm not holding out hope we get that much.
    18 jun à 11 h 58
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    Quoting: drmantalban
    I agree with you that BUF could use Dumba but there’s a lot of BUF fans that express no interest in him on this site. Lots of Eichel to MIN proposals have dumbs going to buf and that’s always a sticking point. Wanting Fiala is hard to argue with. He’s electric and I love having him.


    Seems dumb to say no to Dumba. He's a legitimate middle pairing D and he's a a candidate as a "cap casualty".
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    18 jun à 12 h 10
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    Quoting: Chapee44
    Seems dumb to say no to Dumba. He's a legitimate middle pairing D and he's a a candidate as a "cap casualty".


    Yeah Dumba is overpaid by about 1-1.5M, but he’s still a very solid top 4 D and is a good leader.
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    18 jun à 12 h 16
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    Quoting: Chapee44
    My dream is Boldy, Fiala, Dumba and a 1st but I'm not holding out hope we get that much.


    My offer would be Dumba, Rask, Boldy, Khovanov, 2021 1st and a 2022 2nd.

    Rask is in there for cap purposes and someone to put on the ice for a year. Given this draft I think a 2021 1st has as much value as 2022 2nd which will be a better deeper draft by all accounts.

    I really don't want to give up Fiala when we'd be trying to contend and there are still plenty of concerns about Eichel's neck and possibly losing him for awhile due to wanting surgery. But at this point I wouldn't be surprised given what's been said by our beat-writer Michael Russo that he may just be included for cap reasons.
    18 jun à 12 h 26
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    Quoting: RazWild
    My offer would be Dumba, Rask, Boldy, Khovanov, 2021 1st and a 2022 2nd.

    Rask is in there for cap purposes and someone to put on the ice for a year. Given this draft I think a 2021 1st has as much value as 2022 2nd which will be a better deeper draft by all accounts.

    I really don't want to give up Fiala when we'd be trying to contend and there are still plenty of concerns about Eichel's neck and possibly losing him for awhile due to wanting surgery. But at this point I wouldn't be surprised given what's been said by our beat-writer Michael Russo that he may just be included for cap reasons.


    Is there any fear that someone throws like 9.5 x 6 at Kaprizov on an offer sheet?
    18 jun à 12 h 41
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    Quoting: Chapee44
    Is there any fear that someone throws like 9.5 x 6 at Kaprizov on an offer sheet?


    Nope, offer sheets just don't happen.
    18 jun à 12 h 44
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    Quoting: Chapee44
    Is there any fear that someone throws like 9.5 x 6 at Kaprizov on an offer sheet?


    He's ineligible to be offersheeted. He's ineligible for arbitration. He's exempt from the ED. The only team he can sign with is us. He's a pretty rare form of RFA in that regard. Mostly due to his single year of ELC, and the overall games played to this point. He'd be eligible for all that after next season, which is why it's important to lock him up long term. Anything less than 5 gives him all the power in negotiations. Even now he has the hammer, more or less. He's still fully within his rights to go back to Russia until we no longer own his rights, which isn't for another 3 years.
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    18 jun à 12 h 45
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    Quoting: wabit
    Nope, offer sheets just don't happen.


    He's ineligible anyway, he can only sign with us, no one else.
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