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Hawks best Eichel offer

Créé par: Wadejos123
Date de création initiale: jun 18, 2021
Publié: 18 jun à 10 h 38
Équipe: 2021-22 Blackhawks de Chicago
Explications
Can't include Dach, just can't do it. I view this deal as just as good as if NYR added Kakko+ or LAK did Turcotte+.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Zadorov, Nikita13 000 000 $
Suter, Pius12 200 000 $
Nylander, Alexander1900 000 $
Kämpf, David21 500 000 $
Hagel, Brandon21 800 000 $
Gaudette, Adam21 100 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Martinez, Alec15 500 000 $
Transactions
CHI
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Bjork, Anders
BUF
  1. Boqvist, Adam
  2. Reichel, Lukas
  3. Strome, Dylan
  4. 2021 1e round pick (CHI)
  5. 2023 2e round pick (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
11th OA

2023 2nd becomes a 1st if Hawks reach West finals in 2021, 2022, or 2023
CHI
    SEA
    1. De Haan, Calvin
    2. 2022 3e round pick (VGK)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Brett Connolly: 1 166 667 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Olli Määttä: 750 108 $ (18%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    CHI
    VGK
    CHI
    VAN
    CHI
    CHI
    FLA
    2022
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    2023
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $77 325 176 $452 439 $4 232 500 $4 174 824 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    CHI
    DeBrincat, Alex
    6 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Eichel, Jack
    10 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    CHI
    Kane, Patrick
    10 500 000 $
    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Kubalik, Dominik
    3 700 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Toews, Jonathan
    10 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Dach, Kirby
    925 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Hagel, Brandon
    1 800 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 3
    CHI
    Suter, Pius
    2 200 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Kurashev, Philipp
    842 500 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Bjork, Anders
    1 600 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    CHI
    Kämpf, David
    1 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Gaudette, Adam
    1 100 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Martinez, Alec
    5 500 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    Zadorov, Nikita
    3 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Lankinen, Kevin
    800 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Kalynuk, Wyatt
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Murphy, Connor
    3 850 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Delia, Collin
    1 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Keith, Duncan
    5 538 462 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Mitchell, Ian
    925 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    CHI
    Carpenter, Ryan
    1 000 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Seabrook, Brent
    6 875 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    Stillman, Riley
    1 350 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 3
    CHI
    Shaw, Andrew
    3 900 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    CHI
    Nylander, Alexander
    900 000 $ (0 $)
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1

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    18 jun à 10 h 45
    #1
    Shibbal18
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    Value is meh, fine, but as been said for months, Sabres arent looking for D prospects
    kedogs00 a aimé ceci.
    18 jun à 10 h 50
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    sabres dont want D prospects and if u dont include dach ur not getting jack
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    18 jun à 10 h 53
    #3
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    I agree that the value may be close, but I dont see BUF accepting. I think unless it's a crazy offer Dach would have to be included. Dach, Strome, 12th OA, and a B prospect.
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    18 jun à 11 h 12
    #4
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    Quoting: Sabres_Insider
    sabres dont want D prospects and if u dont include dach ur not getting jack


    Newsflash to all Sabres fans:

    You will not get a calibre of prospect/young player like the likes of Kirby Dach, Quentin Byfield, Trevor Zegras, Jamie Drysdale, etc. for Eichel.

    Eichel hasn't proven anything anything and he has a long history of injury concerns plus a substantial cap hit and financial contract. Those types of players don't get young, elite potential prospects.

    The type of deal you'll likely be getting is what Erik Karlsson got:
    1. Middle 6 forward that's young but can help make up some of the cap difference (this was Chris Tierney)
    2. High end 2nd tier prospect/young roster player (this was Josh Norris)
    3. Mediocre prospect that needs a change of scenery but still has a shot at either a top 6 or top 4 future (this was Rudolf Balcers)
    4. A 1st round pick (yes this turned out to be Stuetzle, but that was because San Jose **** the bed in their season with Karlsson, if he's traded before the draft it has a shot to be a top 10 pick otherwise it's likely in the 15-32 range next year)
    5. A conditional pick that could turn into a 1st


    Teams don't trade prospects like Dach for Eichel. They trade for Eichel to bring in to be a competitive team WITH players like those to create the 1-2 punch down the middle. If you're expecting a player like that in an Eichel deal, you're going to be highly disappointed.
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    18 jun à 11 h 18
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Newsflash to all Sabres fans:

    You will not get a calibre of prospect/young player like the likes of Kirby Dach, Quentin Byfield, Trevor Zegras, Jamie Drysdale, etc. for Eichel.

    Eichel hasn't proven anything anything and he has a long history of injury concerns plus a substantial cap hit and financial contract. Those types of players don't get young, elite potential prospects.

    The type of deal you'll likely be getting is what Erik Karlsson got:
    1. Middle 6 forward that's young but can help make up some of the cap difference (this was Chris Tierney)
    2. High end 2nd tier prospect/young roster player (this was Josh Norris)
    3. Mediocre prospect that needs a change of scenery but still has a shot at either a top 6 or top 4 future (this was Rudolf Balcers)
    4. A 1st round pick (yes this turned out to be Stuetzle, but that was because San Jose **** the bed in their season with Karlsson, if he's traded before the draft it has a shot to be a top 10 pick otherwise it's likely in the 15-32 range next year)
    5. A conditional pick that could turn into a 1st


    Teams don't trade prospects like Dach for Eichel. They trade for Eichel to bring in to be a competitive team WITH players like those to create the 1-2 punch down the middle. If you're expecting a player like that in an Eichel deal, you're going to be highly disappointed.


    News flash: Those teams wont be getting eichel
    18 jun à 12 h 33
    #6
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    Quoting: Sabres_Insider
    News flash: Those teams wont be getting eichel


    Lmao. Guarantee you're gonna be disappointed by the return.
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    18 jun à 16 h 55
    #7
    Démarrer sujet
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Newsflash to all Sabres fans:

    You will not get a calibre of prospect/young player like the likes of Kirby Dach, Quentin Byfield, Trevor Zegras, Jamie Drysdale, etc. for Eichel.

    Eichel hasn't proven anything anything and he has a long history of injury concerns plus a substantial cap hit and financial contract. Those types of players don't get young, elite potential prospects.

    The type of deal you'll likely be getting is what Erik Karlsson got:
    1. Middle 6 forward that's young but can help make up some of the cap difference (this was Chris Tierney)
    2. High end 2nd tier prospect/young roster player (this was Josh Norris)
    3. Mediocre prospect that needs a change of scenery but still has a shot at either a top 6 or top 4 future (this was Rudolf Balcers)
    4. A 1st round pick (yes this turned out to be Stuetzle, but that was because San Jose **** the bed in their season with Karlsson, if he's traded before the draft it has a shot to be a top 10 pick otherwise it's likely in the 15-32 range next year)
    5. A conditional pick that could turn into a 1st


    Teams don't trade prospects like Dach for Eichel. They trade for Eichel to bring in to be a competitive team WITH players like those to create the 1-2 punch down the middle. If you're expecting a player like that in an Eichel deal, you're going to be highly disappointed.


    Agreed. seems like my proposal is pretty spot on, atcually better value than what Kalson got, which is fitting because I think Eichel returns more than KArlson, but I agree he Doesn't get the likes of Dach/Byfeild/Zegas etc.
    18 jun à 16 h 57
    #8
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    Quoting: Sabres_Insider
    sabres dont want D prospects and if u dont include dach ur not getting jack


    Buffalo Sabres
    Lukas Reichel
    Philip Kurashev
    Dylan Strome
    11th OA
    2022 1st (top 3 protected)

    Chicago Blackhawks
    Eichel
    18 jun à 19 h 10
    #9
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    Quoting: Wadejos123
    Buffalo Sabres
    Lukas Reichel
    Philip Kurashev
    Dylan Strome
    11th OA
    2022 1st (top 3 protected)

    Chicago Blackhawks
    Eichel


    That would have to get Eichel and it would suck giving up all of that but they would be silly to turn down that offer.
    18 jun à 19 h 12
    #10
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    Quoting: Wadejos123
    Agreed. seems like my proposal is pretty spot on, atcually better value than what Kalson got, which is fitting because I think Eichel returns more than KArlson, but I agree he Doesn't get the likes of Dach/Byfeild/Zegas etc.


    Honestly, the value of yours is fine but I don't see it happening. The main piece is Boqvist and Buffalo will be looking for that type of prospect but at centre. Reichel is a decent piece but his ceiling isn't high enough for an Eichel deal.

    I don't see Chicago as a fit for an Eichel deal tbh
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    18 jun à 21 h 03
    #11
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Honestly, the value of yours is fine but I don't see it happening. The main piece is Boqvist and Buffalo will be looking for that type of prospect but at centre. Reichel is a decent piece but his ceiling isn't high enough for an Eichel deal.

    I don't see Chicago as a fit for an Eichel deal tbh


    Well if we will part with Dach we're the frontfunner. Thats the best piece any team is giving them
     
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