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If Not Zegras

Créé par: Chapee44
Date de création initiale: jun 17, 2021
Publié: 18 jun à 0 h 47
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Explications
At least it'll be fun to watch Donny Meatballs and the kids.
Adding Power, another high pick and maybe a big ticket free agent forward like Couturier or Point in 2022 could be really exciting.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Asplund, Rasmus1900 000 $
Borgen, William1900 000 $
Dahlin, Rasmus87 500 000 $
Jokiharju, Henri21 200 000 $
Mittelstadt, Casey31 800 000 $
Comtois, Maxime31 800 000 $
Kyrou, Jordan33 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Caggiula, Drake1750 000 $
McCabe, Jake34 000 000 $
Ullmark, Linus23 500 000 $
Bernier, Jonathan22 500 000 $
Gaudreau, Frédérick11 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Power, Owen4925 000 $
Eklund, William3925 000 $
Stankoven, Logan4925 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Kyrou, Jordan3 500 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022
Transactions
BUF
  1. Drysdale, Jamie
  2. Comtois, Maxime [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2021 1e round pick (ANA)
  4. 2023 1e round pick (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
2023 1st is conditional on Eichel having over 120 points over the next two seasons. Downgrades to a 2nd if over 100 and a 3rd if less than 100.
ANA
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Zacha, Pavel
NJD
  1. Thompson, Tage
  2. Ristolainen, Rasmus (2 700 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
If they want Risto maybe they want both big boys lol
I have no words as to why anyone wants Risto...
Per Friedman
BUF
    SEA
    1. Miller, Colin
    BUF
    1. Drury, Jack [Liste de réserve]
    2. Honka, Anttoni [Liste de réserve]
    CAR
    1. Olofsson, Victor (1 525 000 $ retained)
    BUF
    1. Raymond, Lucas
    Détails additionnels:
    Maybe a mid-round pick to balance it out?
    DET
    1. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
    Rachats de contrats
    • Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
    • Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Rasmus Ristolainen: 2 700 000 $ (50%)
    • Victor Olofsson: 1 525 000 $ (50%)
    Enfoui
    • Cody Eakin: 1 125 000 $ (2 250 000 $)
    • Kyle Okposo: 4 875 000 $ (6 000 000 $)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    BUF
    ANA
    BUF
    BOS
    FLA
    MTL
    BUF
    MTL
    BUF
    COL
    BUF
    2022
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    2023
    BUF
    ANA
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $62 325 000 $0 $4 200 000 $19 175 000 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    BUF
    Skinner, Jeff
    9 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    NJD
    Zacha, Pavel
    2 250 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 1
    Kyrou, Jordan
    3 500 000 $
    AD
    RFA
    Comtois, Maxime
    1 800 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA
    BUF
    Mittelstadt, Casey
    1 800 000 $
    C
    RFA
    DET
    Raymond, Lucas
    925 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 3
    Eklund, William
    925 000 $
    BUF
    Cozens, Dylan
    894 167 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Ruotsalainen, Arttu
    925 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Girgensons, Zemgus
    2 200 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    BUF
    Asplund, Rasmus
    900 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA
    BUF
    Bjork, Anders
    1 600 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Caggiula, Drake
    750 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA
    Gaudreau, Frédérick
    1 500 000 $
    C
    UFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    BUF
    Dahlin, Rasmus
    7 500 000 $
    DG
    RFA
    BUF
    Jokiharju, Henri
    1 200 000 $
    DD
    RFA
    BUF
    Ullmark, Linus
    3 500 000 $
    G
    UFA
    BUF
    McCabe, Jake
    4 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA
    ANA
    Drysdale, Jamie
    925 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Bernier, Jonathan
    2 500 000 $
    G
    UFA
    BUF
    Samuelsson, Mattias
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Borgen, William
    900 000 $
    DD
    RFA
    BUF
    Bryson, Jacob
    889 166 $
    DG
    RFA - 1

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    18 jun à 0 h 49
    #1
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    They hold Zegras and Drysdale at the same level
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    18 jun à 0 h 50
    #2
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    Giving away Olofsson is stupid especially with retention.
    18 jun à 0 h 52
    #3
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    Quoting: Tjm220
    Giving away Olofsson is stupid especially with retention.


    He doesn't do much productive other than shoot... and that even started to fade last year because he stands in one spot and his name isn't Ovechkin... He's also pretty bad in his own end and in transition...
    Jack Drury is a really promising prospect and Honka still has that boom or bust label...
    If we're gonna commit to a tear down and build I think we should take what we can get... He's older than a lot of us realize too
    18 jun à 0 h 52
    #4
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    No
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    18 jun à 0 h 53
    #5
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    Quoting: aspina25
    They hold Zegras and Drysdale at the same level


    Yeah I'm just thinking a difference between forwards and defense, etc.
    I really hope it's one of the two in the package though... I'd almost risk saying I'd prefer Drysdale to be completely honest
    18 jun à 0 h 53
    #6
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    Quoting: QuackAttack
    No


    Yes
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    18 jun à 0 h 56
    #7
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    Quoting: Chapee44
    He doesn't do much productive other than shoot... and that even started to fade last year because he stands in one spot and his name isn't Ovechkin... He's also pretty bad in his own end and in transition...
    Jack Drury is a really promising prospect and Honka still has that boom or bust label...
    If we're gonna commit to a tear down and build I think we should take what we can get... He's older than a lot of us realize too

    He’s guaranteed to score 20 goals no matter how he gets them. This team needs somebody who can score no matter how bad people are trying to get them to be on purpose. Since the Pegulas only care about money they need to at least appear to be slightly competitive or no one is buying tickets. Giving away all your scoring assets for nothing that will make the roster next season is not a great way to send the message “come buy tickets.“
    18 jun à 1 h 04
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    Quoting: Tjm220
    He’s guaranteed to score 20 goals no matter how he gets them. This team needs somebody who can score no matter how bad people are trying to get them to be on purpose. Since the Pegulas only care about money they need to at least appear to be slightly competitive or no one is buying tickets. Giving away all your scoring assets for nothing that will make the roster next season is not a great way to send the message “come buy tickets.“


    I get that and appreciate the idea. But Olofsson is not gonna score 20 goals without linemates to drive the play... I don't think he'd get 20 with this current lineup... Just my opinion that he'd be a bit of a hole in the puck moving/play driving style that Donny Meatballs likes to run... He has talent and that shot will be great on a contender... I just think we'd be better off after the proposed trade.
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    18 jun à 1 h 10
    #9
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    Quoting: Chapee44
    Yes


    Keep Eichel. We don’t want him for that price
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    18 jun à 1 h 11
    #10
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    Quoting: QuackAttack
    Keep Eichel. We don’t want him for that price


    Sorry it's too late. I already manifested it into existence.
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    18 jun à 1 h 14
    #11
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    Wings pass, we are keeping raymond
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    18 jun à 1 h 23
    #12
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    Quoting: buffbry
    Wings pass, we are keeping raymond


    Until I inception Stevie Y!
    Lol I know Wings fans love him for good reason. Anything that's close to fair value (and even some stuff that's not) goes on CapFriendly though.
    18 jun à 1 h 28
    #13
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    Quoting: aspina25
    They hold Zegras and Drysdale at the same level


    The year, is 2021: every single elite prospect is

    U N T O U C H A B L E

    Don't even think of trying to trade for them!!! 😵
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    18 jun à 1 h 41
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    Quoting: Radu47
    The year, is 2021: every single elite prospect is

    U N T O U C H A B L E

    Don't even think of trying to trade for them!!! 😵

    How many elite prospects did Ottawa get for Karlsson? Stutzle doesn’t count because everyone assumed that would be pick 25 or lower at the time. I’m pretty sure he was worth more in 2018 than Eichel is now.
    18 jun à 1 h 42
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    Quoting: Radu47
    The year, is 2021: every single elite prospect is

    U N T O U C H A B L E

    Don't even think of trying to trade for them!!! 😵

    I didn’t realize that every single potentially good prospect was Wayne Gretzky. But wait, even Wayne Gretzky was traded twice, and neither time did the team trading him away get fair value for what he’s worth. I guess the moral of the story is franchise centers don’t get traded, I guess that means Jack Eichel isn’t going anywhere. Somebody better tell him and his agent huh.
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    18 jun à 1 h 53
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    Quoting: Chapee44
    Until I inception Stevie Y!
    Lol I know Wings fans love him for good reason. Anything that's close to fair value (and even some stuff that's not) goes on CapFriendly though.


    This is nowhere near fair value.

    Raymond is a top prospect with unlimited potential and is cost controlled for 8 years.

    You want to trade him for a player without a contract that we don't even know if he has any interest at all to sign with us. And if he should sign it'll be for 10 times the cost of Raymond.

    Detroit needs centres but this is a rip off and you know it.

    You can keep Reinhart.
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    18 jun à 7 h 52
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    We are short a rhd
    We only have two starters
    He's a cash dump from Buf
    I think that's the fit
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    18 jun à 8 h 15
    #18
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    Devils easily decline

    We don't need Thompson or Risto and we're not giving up Zacha
    18 jun à 8 h 52
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    Quoting: Billy12Bob
    This is nowhere near fair value.

    Raymond is a top prospect with unlimited potential and is cost controlled for 8 years.

    You want to trade him for a player without a contract that we don't even know if he has any interest at all to sign with us. And if he should sign it'll be for 10 times the cost of Raymond.

    Detroit needs centres but this is a rip off and you know it.

    You can keep Reinhart.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZpIog7e-R4&ab_channel=CutawayGuy
    18 jun à 9 h 27
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    A cap dump and middling 4th liner for Zacha?
    Gotta add a serious piece to make that work.
    18 jun à 10 h 11
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    A cap dump and middling 4th liner for Zacha?
    Gotta add a serious piece to make that work.

    How many fourth line guys were on pace to score near 20 goals in a full season? Personally I think Thompson is at least a third line player, and Zacha is only a second line center at best. There was an AGM on here a couple weeks ago where the Devils sent Thompson‘s brother to Buffalo, not sure where he fits but that might be something.
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    18 jun à 10 h 15
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    Quoting: Tjm220
    How many fourth line guys were on pace to score near 20 goals in a full season? Personally I think Thompson is at least a third line player, and Zacha is only a second line center at best. There was an AGM on here a couple weeks ago where the Devils sent Thompson‘s brother to Buffalo, not sure where he fits but that might be something.


    Hard to argue with someone who's as big of a homer as this guy. Zacha is a solid 3C on a real team, a 2C on bottom feeders like us and the Devils, and Thompson is a 3RW... mix in Risto with retention, who is the piece who's been said publicly that they want, and the trade should be close enough.
    18 jun à 10 h 16
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    Quoting: Chapee44
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZpIog7e-R4&ab_channel=CutawayGuy


    So Yzerman trades a player he selected 4th overall last year & has said he is the the core for a guy that wants the hell out of Buffalo with little team control? That said player would be in contention for 1st overall this year. Yeah, seems legit.
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    18 jun à 12 h 48
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    Quoting: Tjm220
    How many fourth line guys were on pace to score near 20 goals in a full season? Personally I think Thompson is at least a third line player, and Zacha is only a second line center at best. There was an AGM on here a couple weeks ago where the Devils sent Thompson‘s brother to Buffalo, not sure where he fits but that might be something.


    Tyce Thompson is a good player - but needs to add about 20 lbs.
    He is the smaller, but more skilled of the two brothers.
    Was top-5 in scoring in NCAA.

    Quoting: Chapee44
    Hard to argue with someone who's as big of a homer as this guy. Zacha is a solid 3C on a real team, a 2C on bottom feeders like us and the Devils, and Thompson is a 3RW... mix in Risto with retention, who is the piece who's been said publicly that they want, and the trade should be close enough.


    Zacha is a 3C for us when he plays center, but was a first-line LW for most this past season.
    Was a ppg player on Nico's line.

    There was a story about Risto to NJD that came from one guy, a Sabres beat reporter.
    I do not think the Devils are going to go after Risto.
    Goes against everything they have been saying, doing for last year and half.
    18 jun à 12 h 52
    #25
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Tyce Thompson is a good player - but needs to add about 20 lbs.
    He is the smaller, but more skilled of the two brothers.
    Was top-5 in scoring in NCAA.



    Zacha is a 3C for us when he plays center, but was a first-line LW for most this past season.
    Was a ppg player on Nico's line.

    There was a story about Risto to NJD that came from one guy, a Sabres beat reporter.
    I do not think the Devils are going to go after Risto.
    Goes against everything they have been saying, doing for last year and half.


    Also came from Friedman that the two of them have heard it from the same sources... Idk where there's smoke.
    But like I said, no one should be interested in Risto
     
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