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Leaf Equivalent of Ducks Eichel Offer

Créé par: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 17 juin 2021
Publié: 17 juin 2021
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Can't give up Robertson or Sandin... too valuable for an injured guy.
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17 juin 2021 à 16 h 46
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Not even close
17 juin 2021 à 16 h 46
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Not sure what you are referring to, but if it's Zegras and Drysdale, it's apples and oranges
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17 juin 2021 à 16 h 48
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Not sure what you are referring to, but if it's Zegras and Drysdale, it's apples and oranges


Not really? Who is the Ducks' 3rd best prospect. Are they better than Amirov or Liljegren? No.
17 juin 2021 à 16 h 50
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Not even close


firstly: what mitchmarner16 said

second: Leafs dont need another centerman, we have an abundance
17 juin 2021 à 16 h 51
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“Okay guys I know we haven’t made it past the 1st round in forever but we need another $10M forward on our roster. That’s the missing piece!”
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17 juin 2021 à 16 h 55
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Ducks have a top 3 pick they can offer, Leafs don't
17 juin 2021 à 16 h 58
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Not really? Who is the Ducks' 3rd best prospect. Are they better than Amirov or Liljegren? No.


How would you know if you don’t even know who it is?
17 juin 2021 à 17 h 2
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we don't need Eichel
17 juin 2021 à 17 h 4
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How would you know if you don’t even know who it is?


I'd say Comtois but the rest of the prospects other than Zegras and Drysdale aren't elite and certainly isn't going to get you Eichel.

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Ducks have a top 3 pick they can offer, Leafs don't


In the weakest draft since 2012. Beniers (the guy slotted at 2OA) wouldn't have even cracked the top 10 in last year's draft.
17 juin 2021 à 17 h 13
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I'd say Comtois but the rest of the prospects other than Zegras and Drysdale aren't elite and certainly isn't going to get you Eichel.



In the weakest draft since 2012. Beniers (the guy slotted at 2OA) wouldn't have even cracked the top 10 in last year's draft.


The 3rd overall pick is still good value, and much more valuable than a late 2022 first round pick

If you compare this offer to the Ducks rumored offer
Kerfoot = Henrique (both don't have any value to the trade and are just there for salary purposes)
Amriov < Comtois (I like Amirov as a prospect but Comtois has more value)
Engvall +Liljegren < Perrault (Engvall is just a throw in and Liljegren isn't that valuable anymore.)
Late 2022 first < 3rd overall pick
17 juin 2021 à 17 h 26
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Quoting: Devil1122
The 3rd overall pick is still good value, and much more valuable than a late 2022 first round pick

If you compare this offer to the Ducks rumored offer
Kerfoot = Henrique (both don't have any value to the trade and are just there for salary purposes)
Amriov < Comtois (I like Amirov as a prospect but Comtois has more value)
Engvall +Liljegren < Perrault (Engvall is just a throw in and Liljegren isn't that valuable anymore.)
Late 2022 first < 3rd overall pick


Kerfoot = Henrique as a player sure but Henrique has an extra year on his contract at 6M per season. That's a straight up cap dump with negative value.

Kerfoot > Henrique

Sure Comtois > Amirov (right now)

Liljegren > Perrault

Never know the 1st will be a late could even be a lottery pick and 2022 is a strong draft class.
But Sure 3OA > 20221st that could be anywhere from #1 to #32.

It's not far off what the Ducks' offer is.

I'm not saying this trade is fair. Buffalo would be fools to accept this one or the rumored Anaheim one.
17 juin 2021 à 17 h 31
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
I'd say Comtois but the rest of the prospects other than Zegras and Drysdale aren't elite and certainly isn't going to get you Eichel.



In the weakest draft since 2012. Beniers (the guy slotted at 2OA) wouldn't have even cracked the top 10 in last year's draft.


I mean if you’re counting Comtois as a prospect he’s better than Amirov and Liljegren. So your logic is entirely flawed when claiming Comtois is a prospect.

Even without Zegras, Drysdale, and Comtois, the ducks can offer a better package than what you have.

3OA, Terry, Lundestrom, Perrault, Henrique (retained), 2022 2nd.

Perrault in less games had more points in the AHL than Amirov in the KHL but I’ll give Amirov the benefit of being the higher rated prospect. 3OA is worth a bit more than Liljegren tho. Lundestrom and Kerfoot are similar players but Lundestrom is younger. Henrique at half price is still a better player than Engvall and will be throughout his entire contract. There is probably an argument for pick ~28 next season being worth more than Terry and pick ~42 tho.
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I mean if you’re counting Comtois as a prospect he’s better than Amirov and Liljegren. So your logic is entirely flawed when claiming Comtois is a prospect.

Even without Zegras, Drysdale, and Comtois, the ducks can offer a better package than what you have.

3OA, Terry, Lundestrom, Perrault, Henrique (retained), 2022 2nd.

Perrault in less games had more points in the AHL than Amirov in the KHL but I’ll give Amirov the benefit of being the higher rated prospect. 3OA is worth a bit more than Liljegren tho. Lundestrom and Kerfoot are similar players but Lundestrom is younger. Henrique at half price is still a better player than Engvall and will be throughout his entire contract. There is probably an argument for pick ~28 next season being worth more than Terry and pick ~42 tho.


I'd give more than that as the Sens though. If I was giving a legit offer as the Leafs I'd definitely include Robertson.
17 juin 2021 à 17 h 37
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I'd give more than that as the Sens though. If I was giving a legit offer as the Leafs I'd definitely include Robertson.


That wasn’t the focus of your post tho. You put together a TOR package that would be less than the max I’d give up as a Ducks fan.

TOR can’t afford the $10M cap hit so their only option would be a hockey trade involving Marner.

I’m sure Sens fans would offer quite a bit but most of the rumors don’t really include OTT do they?
17 juin 2021 à 17 h 56
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Eichel makes no sense for us

Now if this was happening in 2018-2019 Leafs would have made a historic deal for him with Nylander as the main center piece.

As for now dont see it happening, but Sam Rhienhart though could be an idea especially if Hyman leaves in FA.
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17 juin 2021 à 18 h 1
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Eichel makes no sense for us

Now if this was happening in 2018-2019 Leafs would have made a historic deal for him with Nylander as the main center piece.

As for now dont see it happening, but Sam Rhienhart though could be an idea especially if Hyman leaves in FA.


Don't see the appeal of getting Reinhart over signing RNH. Especially if we keep Marner and Nylander who are both already right shots.
17 juin 2021 à 18 h 6
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Don't see the appeal of getting Reinhart over signing RNH. Especially if we keep Marner and Nylander who are both already right shots.


RNH would be nice but he reportedly wants 6.5+ mill making him around the same price as what Hyman wants

if Im dubas and looking for Bargains

Jaden Schwartz anyone

I know he had a bad year but I think theirs a fit especially is Dubas also brings back Bozak
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RNH would be nice but he reportedly wants 6.5+ mill making him around the same price as what Hyman wants

if Im dubas and looking for Bargains

Jaden Schwartz anyone


Reinhart isn't gonna be a bargain. Only one year of team control left.
17 juin 2021 à 18 h 9
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Reinhart isn't gonna be a bargain. Only one year of team control left.


thats why I was thinking of a 1 for 1

Willy for Rheidnart

he then proceeds to sign an extension and Buffalo gets 3 years of Willy and can do whatever they want with him. Flip him for more picks or use him.

but then I went nah

as with the recent news of Schwartz and the Blues potentially parting ways I could see Dubas going for him instead
17 juin 2021 à 18 h 16
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thats why I was thinking of a 1 for 1

Willy for Rheidnart

he then proceeds to sign an extension and Buffalo gets 3 years of Willy and can do whatever they want with him. Flip him for more picks or use him.

but then I went nah

as with the recent news of Schwartz and the Blues potentially parting ways I could see Dubas going for him instead


Willy for Reinhart is just a downgrade. It doesn't help the team get better.

Schwartz could be interesting I wouldn't want to give up too much for him though and I see him more as a potential TDL target if we can get him half retained
17 juin 2021 à 18 h 20
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Willy for Reinhart is just a downgrade. It doesn't help the team get better.

could be interesting I wouldn't want to give up too much for him though and I see him more as a potential TDL target if we can get him half retained


Schwartz is a UFA so wont cost us a dime wink

at worst case give them a C prospect for his signing rights

In general people are panicking about Hyman when the fact is there are so many guys in FA that are basically Hyman like players

Blake Coleman, Jaden Schwartz, among others

we will be just fine
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