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Revised Karlsson Trade

Créé par: Hockyluv21
Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 17 juin 2021
Publié: 17 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 300 000 $
42 580 000 $
53 800 000 $
26 300 000 $
2800 000 $
1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 100 000 $
31 400 000 $
2750 000 $
22 100 000 $
44 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Karlsson, Erik (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
SJS
  1. Gardiner, Jake
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
2.
CAR
    Protected: Svechnikov, Aho, Teravainen, Staal, Trocheck, Niederreiter, Foegele, Slavin, Pesce, Bean, Nedeljkovic
    3.
    CAR
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
    WPG
      Signing Rights to D Dougie Hamilton. Jets extend Hamilton for 7 years, $9.1M AAV.
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2281 500 000 $79 403 583 $0 $537 500 $2 096 417 $
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      6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 8
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      8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
      C
      UFA - 3
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      5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
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      5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
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      4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
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      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
      AD
      RFA - 1
      4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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      UFA - 3
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      2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
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      725 000 $725 000 $
      C, AG, AD
      UFA - 1
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      800 000 $800 000 $
      C, AD
      RFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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      5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 4
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      7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 6
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      5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
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      4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
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      1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
      DD
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      3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
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      1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
      DG/DD
      RFA - 3
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      2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      750 000 $750 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 1
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      750 000 $750 000 $
      DG
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      17 juin 2021 à 16 h 42
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      Gaining a high pick is cool and all but that pick would have to clear top 6 early on to be worth the difference in Hamilton and Karlsson over 6 years at about the same price
      17 juin 2021 à 16 h 44
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      Quoting: ecupirate07
      Gaining a high pick is cool and all but that pick would have to clear top 6 early on to be worth the difference in Hamilton and Karlsson over 6 years at about the same price


      It's about getting Karlsson for the same AAV as Hamilton would take, PLUS the #7 pick, for #26 and Gardiner. If Dougie truly is asking for too much, this is a way to use that cap space to actually generate an asset.
      17 juin 2021 à 16 h 45
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      SJ declines, not trading 1sts.
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      17 juin 2021 à 16 h 46
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      WPG and SJS won't be trading their 1sts for those trades
      17 juin 2021 à 16 h 47
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      Quoting: Klara
      SJ declines, not trading 1sts.


      You're not trading out of the 1st entirely, though. This is a pick-swap in a questionable draft, where the value between a high 1st and a late 1st isn't all that big because of COVID and how it has impacted scouting.
      17 juin 2021 à 16 h 50
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      Quoting: Hockyluv21
      You're not trading out of the 1st entirely, though. This is a pick-swap in a questionable draft, where the value between a high 1st and a late 1st isn't all that big because of COVID and how it has impacted scouting.


      The value between 7th overall and 26th is absolutely huge, no matter the draft, and especially this draft where after the top 12 or so, the quality drops of considerably.
      17 juin 2021 à 16 h 51
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      Quoting: Hockyluv21
      It's about getting Karlsson for the same AAV as Hamilton would take, PLUS the #7 pick, for #26 and Gardiner. If Dougie truly is asking for too much, this is a way to use that cap space to actually generate an asset.


      Gardiner is a cap dump. SJS have to give up an asset and retain and still have to take back a cap dump who can't play defense. I think I'm missing why SJS do this.
      17 juin 2021 à 16 h 52
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      Maybe Burns for Gardiner straight up.
      17 juin 2021 à 16 h 54
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      Quoting: Klara
      The value between 7th overall and 26th is absolutely huge, no matter the draft, and especially this draft where after the top 12 or so, the quality drops of considerably.


      I look at it as the opposite. There's a huge disagreement between certain scouts about who the best players are in this draft, and you therefore are going to see a lot of players that (IMO) are some of the best players in the draft, like Raty, Robertsson, and Lysell, that potentially may fall into the 20s. This may be the best time in a long time to have a late 1st round pick.
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      17 juin 2021 à 16 h 56
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      Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
      Gardiner is a cap dump. SJS have to give up an asset and retain and still have to take back a cap dump who can't play defense. I think I'm missing why SJS do this.


      One cap dump is 6 years, the other one is 2. The gap in magnitude of the two dumps is huge in terms of AAV, as well.
      17 juin 2021 à 17 h 3
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      Jets won’t trade a 1st unless it’s a sign and trade.
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      17 juin 2021 à 17 h 9
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      Quoting: Carterman13
      Jets won’t trade a 1st unless it’s a sign and trade.


      This would be a sign-and-trade.
      17 juin 2021 à 17 h 11
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      Quoting: Hockyluv21
      This would be a sign-and-trade.


      Ok then yes I’d do it. But if it’s just for his rights then no
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      17 juin 2021 à 19 h 11
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      Would rather just buy Gardiner out or stash him on LTIR if he’s getting another back surgery which sounds like it could be happening. Don’t want to be stuck with an aging Karlsson for 6 more years.
      17 juin 2021 à 20 h 42
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      If Hamilton wants to sign in Winnipeg I'd rather the Jets just go for 7 years and keep the first. In Dougie's case a 5-7 year contract is probably best.
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      17 juin 2021 à 22 h 17
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      Quoting: Windjammer
      If Hamilton wants to sign in Winnipeg I'd rather the Jets just go for 7 years and keep the first. In Dougie's case a 5-7 year contract is probably best.


      The risk is that Hamilton would choose somewhere else, of course. First-dibs and an extra year is a valuable thing, especially with an elite piece like Dougie.
      17 juin 2021 à 22 h 59
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      Quoting: Hockyluv21
      The risk is that Hamilton would choose somewhere else, of course. First-dibs and an extra year is a valuable thing, especially with an elite piece like Dougie.


      If he really wants to sign in Winnipeg he will, if he doesn't he doesn't. It's certainly not worth wasting a first to try and convince him.
       
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