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Reinhart and 3C

Créé par: Mediumyeet
Date de création initiale: 17 juin 2021
Publié: 17 juin 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
Ideally they can move a contract out to improve the D a bit. But ultimately I don't this dcore is any worse than the one they iced last season.

Canucks fans would hate this but I honestly wouldn't hate bringing Gudbranson back as cheap depth as well. He could potentially be a decent partner for Hughes for a season.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Reinhart, Sam86 200 000 $
Pettersson, Elias37 000 000 $
Hughes, Quinn25 200 000 $
Juolevi, Olli1875 000 $
Mcleod, Michael21 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Hakanpää, Jani11 000 000 $
McCabe, Jake12 000 000 $
Paquette, Cédric1850 000 $
Dubnyk, Devan11 000 000 $
Nash, Riley1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
BUF
  1. 2021 1e round pick (VAN)
9th OA
2.
VAN
  1. Mcleod, Michael [Droits de RFA]
NJD
  1. Persson, Viktor [Liste de réserve]
  2. 2021 2e round pick (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
41st OA

(Prospect could be anyone NJD wants excluding Woo and Dipietro)
3.
VAN
    SEA
    1. Lind, Kole [Droits de RFA]
    4.
    VAN
      NJD
      1. MacEwen, Zack
      Détails additionnels:
      Part of the Devil's deal as it gives them a 2nd forward that meets exposure requirements allowing them to protect Bastian.
      Rachats de contrats
      • Braden Holtby: 500 000 $
      • Jake Virtanen: 50 000 $
      Frais appliqués
      • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
      ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
      2021
      VAN
      VAN
      CHI
      VAN
      WPG
      VAN
      2022
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      2023
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2381 500 000 $81 675 659 $648 780 $1 900 000 $-175 659 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      VAN
      Miller, J.T.
      5 250 000 $
      AG, C
      UFA - 2
      VAN
      Pettersson, Elias
      7 000 000 $
      C
      RFA - 3
      VAN
      Boeser, Brock
      5 875 000 $
      AD
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Pearson, Tanner
      3 250 000 $
      AG
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      VAN
      Horvat, Bo
      5 500 000 $
      C
      UFA - 2
      Reinhart, Sam
      6 200 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 3
      VAN
      Podkolzin, Vasily
      925 000 $
      AD
      RFA - 3
      Mcleod, Michael
      1 250 000 $
      C
      RFA - 2
      VAN
      Höglander, Nils
      891 667 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 2
      VAN
      Motte, Tyler
      1 225 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Paquette, Cédric
      850 000 $
      C, AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Highmore, Matthew
      725 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Beagle, Jay
      3 000 000 $
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      Nash, Riley
      800 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      VAN
      Hughes, Quinn
      5 200 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 6
      Hakanpää, Jani
      1 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
      VAN
      Demko, Thatcher
      5 000 000 $
      G
      UFA - 5
      McCabe, Jake
      2 000 000 $
      DG
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      VAN
      Schmidt, Nate
      5 950 000 $
      DG/DD
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      Dubnyk, Devan
      1 000 000 $
      G
      UFA
      VAN
      Rathbone, Jack
      925 000 $
      DG
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Myers, Tyler
      6 000 000 $
      DD
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      VAN
      Juolevi, Olli
      875 000 $
      DG
      RFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      VAN
      Ferland, Micheal
      3 500 000 $
      AG, AD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      Équipe de réserve
      VAN
      Roussel, Antoine
      3 000 000 $ (1 875 000 $)
      AG
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Eriksson, Loui
      6 000 000 $ (4 875 000 $)
      AG, AD
      NTC
      UFA - 1

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      17 juin 2021 à 1 h 25
      #1
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      I like it. I think we could go with a stopgap 3C this year though. A guy like Soderberg maybe.

      I also think we could probably get Hamonic and Edler back for ~3m.

      I don’t think our D was actually as bad as it looked last year. Our horrendous bottom 6 ensured they were completely caved in all game
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      17 juin 2021 à 1 h 28
      #2
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      Quoting: chortis
      I like it. I think we could go with a stopgap 3C this year though. A guy like Soderberg maybe.

      I also think we could probably get Hamonic and Edler back for ~3m.


      We could go with a stop gap 3C but I'd rather solve that spot for the long-term (hopefully) if you can get McLeod for something similar to this.

      If Edler and Hamonic come back for similar money to this then I'd be fine with that as well though I prefer McCabe over Edler. McCabe is solid and the only reason he might come this cheap is the question marks after knee surgery and hardly playing for 18 months.
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      17 juin 2021 à 1 h 30
      #3
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      Quoting: Mediumyeet
      We could go with a stop gap 3C but I'd rather solve that spot for the long-term (hopefully) if you can get McLeod for something similar to this.

      If Edler and Hamonic come back for similar money to this then I'd be fine with that as well though I prefer McCabe over Edler. McCabe is solid and the only reason he might come this cheap is the question marks after knee surgery and hardly playing for 18 months.


      Lmao you are the guy I was just talking to on Reddit. I guess we’re on the same page
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      17 juin 2021 à 1 h 32
      #4
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      Quoting: chortis
      Lmao you are the guy I was just talking to on Reddit. I guess we’re on the same page


      Hahaha cheers friend! Well now you can see my whole offseason plan rather than just my reddit suggestion.
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      17 juin 2021 à 1 h 33
      #5
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      This is good stuff Mediumyeet. I think the Hughes and Pettersson deals are just a touch wishful thinking but hopefully not by much. Either way, a few guys on this roster would end up in Abby out of sheer numbers making the math work anyway. I'd be honestly quite happy if this is how we lined up next year.
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      17 juin 2021 à 1 h 36
      #6
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      Quoting: sporkknife
      This is good stuff Mediumyeet. I think the Hughes and Pettersson deals are just a touch wishful thinking but hopefully not by much. Either way, a few guys on this roster would end up in Abby out of sheer numbers making the math work anyway. I'd be honestly quite happy if this is how we lined up next year.


      Ya Petey could go up by 250k. Only reason I've got Hughes so cheap is I went 2yrs. I have a feeling they're going to struggle on coming to an agreement at 4yr or 6yr team and 5yr should be an absolute no go for the nucks.

      Thought process on 2yrs it allows them to sign Hughes long term before Petey. I think Petey signing long term first could inflate Hughes contract too much.
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      17 juin 2021 à 1 h 36
      #7
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      You’d have to add another pretty good asset to that Reinhart trade if you want to make it work. Not to mention you’re adding at least $1 million to the contract you gave him, he’s not signing long term for less than $7 million anywhere.
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      17 juin 2021 à 1 h 38
      #8
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      Quoting: Mediumyeet
      Ya Petey could go up by 250k. Only reason I've got Hughes so cheap is I went 2yrs. I have a feeling they're going to struggle on coming to an agreement at 4yr or 6yr team and 5yr should be an absolute no go for the nucks.

      Thought process on 2yrs it allows them to sign Hughes long term before Petey. I think Petey signing long term first could inflate Hughes contract too much.


      Yup, agree all. Hope this is the case. I fear that CAA is going to put Jimbo through the wash. Fingers crossed
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      17 juin 2021 à 1 h 39
      #9
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      Quoting: Tjm220
      You’d have to add another pretty good asset to that Reinhart trade if you want to make it work. Not to mention you’re adding at least $1 million to the contract you gave him, he’s not signing long term for less than $7 million anywhere.


      We will see TJM, we will see. In a vacuum, I'd agree with you. He's a damn good player. BUT, he's from here and he wants to come here. Buffalo have struggled to leverage for their players. You would have thought Hall with retained salary would get you at least into the first round, for example.
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      17 juin 2021 à 1 h 41
      #10
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      Quoting: Tjm220
      You’d have to add another pretty good asset to that Reinhart trade if you want to make it work. Not to mention you’re adding at least $1 million to the contract you gave him, he’s not signing long term for less than $7 million anywhere.


      I know he goes for more on here typically but I think in reality 9th OA gets it done if Canucks are willing to pull the trigger.

      I think Reinhart would probably sign 6 yrs at 6.75. I think going to 8 years could bring the AAV down from 6.75. but if need be I'd go 6.75x6 and I think that gets it done.
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      17 juin 2021 à 1 h 43
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      Quoting: sporkknife
      Yup, agree all. Hope this is the case. I fear that CAA is going to put Jimbo through the wash. Fingers crossed


      He's done well so far on RFA deals so heres to hoping it continues. But I'm with you, the whole situation makes me nervous.
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      17 juin 2021 à 2 h 9
      #12
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      Not enough for Sam

      The hope would be that 9oa turns into a player as good as Reinhart…. but that’s VERY FAR from proven
      You’d need to add another piece imo
      17 juin 2021 à 2 h 12
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      Quoting: sporkknife
      We will see TJM, we will see. In a vacuum, I'd agree with you. He's a damn good player. BUT, he's from here and he wants to come here. Buffalo have struggled to leverage for their players. You would have thought Hall with retained salary would get you at least into the first round, for example.


      Except Hall said he’d “only go to Boston”
      Reinhart doesn’t have any sort of NTC
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      17 juin 2021 à 2 h 12
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      Quoting: Jdfitz77
      Not enough for Sam

      The hope would be that 9oa turns into a player as good as Reinhart…. but that’s VERY FAR from proven
      You’d need to add another piece imo


      I disagree. I think 9OA gets it done if the Canucks are willing to pull the trigger. Buffalo doesn't have a lot of leverage.
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      17 juin 2021 à 2 h 14
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      Quoting: Mediumyeet
      I disagree. I think 9OA gets it done if the Canucks are willing to pull the trigger. Buffalo doesn't have a lot of leverage.


      We don’t need “a lot of leverage”
      There’s MANY teams out there interested in Reinhart
      YOU have to beat them with the best bid

      9oa in a weak draft is unlikely to be the winning bid imo
      17 juin 2021 à 2 h 14
      #16
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      Quoting: Jdfitz77
      Except Hall said he’d “only go to Boston”
      Reinhart doesn’t have any sort of NTC


      I agree with you, I should be more clear. I just think it's not completely out of the realm of possibility. I've seen proposals where Van adds a 2nd, Lind, and Eriksson and I think that actually might work better for both sides. Maybe Roussel or Holtby instead.
      17 juin 2021 à 2 h 16
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      Quoting: sporkknife
      I agree with you, I should be more clear. I just think it's not completely out of the realm of possibility. I've seen proposals where Van adds a 2nd, Lind, and Eriksson and I think that actually might work better for both sides. Maybe Roussel or Holtby instead.


      Who knows?
      I guess we’ll see…. bc it’s like 90% (my guess) at this point that both Eichel & Reinhart are traded
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      17 juin 2021 à 2 h 16
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      Quoting: Jdfitz77
      We don’t need “a lot of leverage”
      There’s MANY teams out there interested in Reinhart
      YOU have to beat them with the best bid

      9oa in a weak draft is unlikely to be the winning bid imo


      Agree to everything here except the weak draft part. I think it's an average draft with plenty of hidden gems but no franchise players at the top end. You're right, I don't think anyone outside of maybe Berniers can end up as good as Sam. Mayyybe Eklund.
      17 juin 2021 à 2 h 17
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      Quoting: sporkknife
      Agree to everything here except the weak draft part. I think it's an average draft with plenty of hidden gems but no franchise players at the top end. You're right, I don't think anyone outside of maybe Berniers can end up as good as Sam. Mayyybe Eklund.


      Which is why adding another piece seems VERY likely
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      17 juin 2021 à 2 h 18
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      Quoting: Jdfitz77
      Which is why adding another piece seems VERY likely


      Yeah, I buy it
      17 juin 2021 à 2 h 19
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      Quoting: sporkknife
      Yeah, I buy it


      Like i said though…. We’ll see what happens
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      17 juin 2021 à 2 h 30
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      Quoting: Jdfitz77
      We don’t need “a lot of leverage”
      There’s MANY teams out there interested in Reinhart
      YOU have to beat them with the best bid

      9oa in a weak draft is unlikely to be the winning bid imo


      That's where I disagree. I don't think they're going to get a better offer than that especially with reports that he wants to play out west. That limits the number of teams that will be confident they can get an extension done. 9th or 10th overall is the end of the basically consensus top tier of players in this draft. I don't think anyone is going to offer a prospect that has more value than a 9th overall pick.

      To be fair I'd easily add Lind or Gadjovich or MacEwen or something like that to the deal I just don't think it will need that in reality.
      17 juin 2021 à 8 h 39
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      We need ready to play D on both sides and Woo or Rathbone would have to be on this list. We are not trading Wood most likely so its probably not worth discussing
      17 juin 2021 à 12 h 45
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      Quoting: Smitty426
      We need ready to play D on both sides and Woo or Rathbone would have to be on this list. We are not trading Wood most likely so its probably not worth discussing


      Wood isn't involved in this trade...
      17 juin 2021 à 12 h 53
      #25
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      Quoting: Mediumyeet
      Wood isn't involved in this trade...


      My mistake
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