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Eichel to Seattle and Build

Créé par: Chapee44
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2021
Publié: 16 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Can't rebuild when we're already trying lol
Using Dobber's latest crack at the Seattle roster.
https://dobberhockey.com/2021/06/14/ramblings-dobber-takes-a-crack-at-drafting-seattle-krakens-expansion-team-jun-14/
Disclaimer: I don't agree with some of their decisions like Toews being exposed to them.

1-William Eklund
1-Sebastian Cossa
2-Logan Stankoven
3-Jack Bar
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
87 500 000 $
21 200 000 $
31 800 000 $
34 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
34 000 000 $
23 500 000 $
22 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Eklund, William
3925 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Kyrou, Jordan4 000 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Rumoured Devils are in on Risto.
Don't know why they are but they are.
2.
BUF
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (SEA)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (SEA)
Détails additionnels:
Devon Toews
Mason Appleton
SEA
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Miller, Colin
Détails additionnels:
Colin Miller is their expansion selection here as part of the deal.
3.
4.
5.
BUF
  1. Kadri, Nazem
  2. Newhook, Alex
Détails additionnels:
Colorado trades "probably a 2C soon" for a "for sure 2C right now". This is a "go for it" trade.
COL
  1. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
If the price is a 1st and a quality prospect for Reinhart then this is a top prospect and cap space with a little value.
6.
BUF
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Kadri, Nazem (2 250 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Any contender that needs centre depth.
7.
BUF
  1. Drury, Jack [Liste de réserve]
  2. Honka, Anttoni [Liste de réserve]
CAR
  1. Olofsson, Victor (1 525 000 $ retained)
8.
BUF
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
CBJ
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (SEA)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Draft Day trading up for Cossa
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
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2022
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $65 147 249 $113 916 $1 700 000 $16 352 751 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 3
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Eklund, William
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
900 000 $900 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
889 166 $889 166 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2

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16 juin 2021 à 21 h 20
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???Seattle isn't giving up the 2nd pick to big up a 10m cap hit in Eichel. Seattle is much better off, keeping those top picks and spending 10m UFAs (just like Sabres did with the trade you proposed)
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 20
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Then Seattle will go on a Cinderella run like Vegas did…..
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16 juin 2021 à 21 h 26
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I have a hard to trusting someone who isn't protecting Craig Smith and has SEA selecting Dan Vladar when Vladar will be protect from expansion lol. Think Dobber needs to go back to the drawing board lol
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16 juin 2021 à 21 h 28
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Quoting: palhal
???Seattle isn't giving up the 2nd pick to big up a 10m cap hit in Eichel. Seattle is much better off, keeping those top picks and spending 10m UFAs (just like Sabres did with the trade you proposed)


Yes Seattle would take that deal in a heartbeat.
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 31
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COL is protecting Toews and isn’t trading Newhook.
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 32
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Quoting: palhal
???Seattle isn't giving up the 2nd pick to big up a 10m cap hit in Eichel. Seattle is much better off, keeping those top picks and spending 10m UFAs (just like Sabres did with the trade you proposed)


They didn't give up 2 overall. They gave up their 2nd this year and 1st next year.
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16 juin 2021 à 21 h 33
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Then Seattle will go on a Cinderella run like Vegas did…..


I hope GMs are smarter this time around but definitely a possibility
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 33
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Yes Seattle would take that deal in a heartbeat.


If is so good for Seattle, why would Buffalo do it? Sabres aren't getting 10m in cap space and a premier pick.
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COL is protecting Toews and isn’t trading Newhook.


I would imagine. The Newhook trade is possible but not probable. Just market value. I wouldn't move him if I were them
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 38
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Quoting: palhal
If is so good for Seattle, why would Buffalo do it? Sabres aren't getting 10m in cap space and a premier pick.


Buffalo would never do that, it's actually quite laughable.
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 42
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Buffalo would never do that, it's actually quite laughable.


It's not laughable. Strapping yourself with 19m for those two players. Any competent GM can spend 19m better.
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 45
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NJ laughs and hangs up


They're supposedly really in on Risto so who knows their value of him
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 46
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Quoting: palhal
It's not laughable. Strapping yourself with 19m for those two players. Any competent GM can spend 19m better.


Ok, if you were the Maple Leafs GM, would you trade Marner for the 1st overall pick?
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 46
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Ok, if you were the Maple Leafs GM, would you trade Marner for the 1st overall pick?


Yes.

If I'm the Sabres GM, I would hope my # 1 pick will be cost efficient star, and in the meantime I have 11m to spend on UFAs.(not necessarily this year), which collectively have more value than Marner. That would be thinking as Leafs GM. Get a cost efficient star at # 1 and then 11m to restructure my team
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 48
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Quoting: palhal
Yes.


Wow, you would probably be the only Toronto fan on here that would do that, but ok you stick to your guns and I can respect that.
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 55
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Nothing about those avs moves makes a kick of sense

Toews is protected
And reinhart isn’t good enough to warrant Newhook, and he’s not even an upgrade at 2c over kadri since reinhart doesn’t even really play C, he plays mostly wing

Also kadri has a m-ntc, it’s a safe bet that Buffalo is on his no trade list,
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16 juin 2021 à 22 h 11
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Quoting: Chapee44
They're supposedly really in on Risto so who knows their value of him


if Fitzgerald made this trade he would be fired the next day. if they decide to trade for Ristolainen (awful idea to begin with) they're not giving up a 25 year old that was on pace to score 25 goals in a full season
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17 juin 2021 à 0 h 34
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Quoting: coga16
Nothing about those avs moves makes a kick of sense

Toews is protected
And reinhart isn’t good enough to warrant Newhook, and he’s not even an upgrade at 2c over kadri since reinhart doesn’t even really play C, he plays mostly wing

Also kadri has a m-ntc, it’s a safe bet that Buffalo is on his no trade list,


Reinhart just finally got a shot to play centre this season and played exceptionally. He also drove play at just as high a rate as ever while having the top tier production... just because our organization stuck him on the wing doesn't mean a smart one like Colorado will.
17 juin 2021 à 1 h 2
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Quoting: Chapee44
Reinhart just finally got a shot to play centre this season and played exceptionally. He also drove play at just as high a rate as ever while having the top tier production... just because our organization stuck him on the wing doesn't mean a smart one like Colorado will.


16 game hot streak shooting double his career shooting percentage.
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17 juin 2021 à 7 h 52
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16 game hot streak shooting double his career shooting percentage.


Can't discount that it came while playing a different position and being able to take different lanes of attack and shoot from different spots. But yes what you said is correct
17 juin 2021 à 9 h 27
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Reinhart just finally got a shot to play centre this season and played exceptionally. He also drove play at just as high a rate as ever while having the top tier production... just because our organization stuck him on the wing doesn't mean a smart one like Colorado will.


he got his shot bc Eichel got hurt and even then he wasnt one of the top 5 faceoff men on the sabres. Hes not a 2C. Hes a winger
and avs decline everything you proposed
17 juin 2021 à 9 h 41
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he got his shot bc Eichel got hurt and even then he wasnt one of the top 5 faceoff men on the sabres. Hes not a 2C. Hes a winger
and avs decline everything you proposed


There's a lot more to playing centre than taking faceoffs... lol
17 juin 2021 à 9 h 51
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There's a lot more to playing centre than taking faceoffs... lol


and he doesnt play Centre, he doesnt take faceoffs or play the position regularly. He played 11 games at Centre this year after they traded Staal. Lets not pretend his now a star Centre

Dude its a bad trade, avs are not trading Kadri and Newhook for 1 year of Reinhart who is going to either go to Arb get his 1 year deal to head to UFA or will ask for a overpayment of a extension.

You couldnt get newhook 1 for 1 nevermind with Kadri. Reinhart is not that good
17 juin 2021 à 9 h 53
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and he doesnt play Centre, hes effective as a winger. Dude its a bad trade, avs are not trading Kadri and Newhook for 1 year of Reinhart who is going to either go to Arb get his 1 year deal to head to UFA or will ask for a overpayment of a extension.

You couldnt get newhook 1 for 1 nevermind with Kadri. Reinhart is not that good


He literally just had arguably his best season by all statistics and metrics while playing centre after being drafted as a centre? I'm confused by how that means he's not a centre?
The Sabres stuck him on Jack's wing because they've failed to build any kind of talent around them?
Do you view Draisaitl as a winger too?
17 juin 2021 à 9 h 53
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He literally just had arguably his best season by all statistics and metrics while playing centre after being drafted as a centre? I'm confused by how that means he's not a centre?
The Sabres stuck him on Jack's wing because they've failed to build any kind of talent around them?
Do you view Draisaitl as a winger too?


11 games at Centre doesnt make him 2c now
 
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