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Leafs are going to be worse next year Big Shake Up

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Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2021
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They don't have the cap to sign Hyman (Unless)..... They Need to break up the Core 4 - Cant trade Matthews (Pretty Obviously) or Tavares (NMC) .... And Nylander is alot cheaper and is going to get better.... And with salary cap staying the same, marner in my opinion should be traded... Leafs need to do something big, roll the dice, or its going to be the same result next year.

Jones is basically a 1 year rental (because you need to sign Reilly the following year), so the trade is Marner for Atkison, Foudy (pretty good prospect) and a 1st....

Il probably get roasted for this, but YOLO

** Leafs will probably have to add to the trade for the Jones Rental, but didnt want to make it more complicated**
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16 juin 2021 à 14 h 8
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Seems like a very optimistic return. In my opinion be lucky if Columbus is willing to do a 1-1 for Jones.
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 15
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I'll agree with you that the Leafs might have to something like this as you suggest with the trade. 32 year old Atkinson at 5.875m X 4, might be too little cap relief the Leafs would want.
How's this trade. Jenner, Foudy and the first rounder. This would allow CBJ to get young assets back if they trade UFA Jones. Leafs would get cap space to acquire a Dman and more.
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Seems like a very optimistic return. In my opinion be lucky if Columbus is willing to do a 1-1 for Jones.


If Dubas accepts Jones for Marner one for one he needs to be fired immediately.
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16 juin 2021 à 14 h 15
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Thankfully Cam blocks the trade. We will just keep the 24 year old 90 point winger.
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 18
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Quoting: Saskleaf
If Dubas accepts Jones for Marner one for one he needs to be fired immediately.



Not if Jones comes with an extension. If he doesn’t, then I agree.
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 19
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Thankfully Cam blocks the trade. We will just keep the 24 year old 90 point winger.


I get it, i would want to keep a top 5 goal scorer in the league..... But to may 4 players about 50 % of your cap is bananas (Unless you play basketball ahah) I was just trying to play around with options
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If Dubas accepts Jones for Marner one for one he needs to be fired immediately.


I agree with you. For some reason, Jones is a real darling of CF followers. Don't know why so many think the CBJ Dmen and goalies are such difference makers. The good part about Jones/Marner trade though, the Leafs get 5.5m in cap space this season and 11m in 21/22.
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16 juin 2021 à 14 h 20
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Quoting: palhal
I'll agree with you that the Leafs might have to something like this as you suggest with the trade. 32 year old Atkinson at 5.875m X 4, might be too little cap relief the Leafs would want.
How's this trade. Jenner, Foudy and the first rounder. This would allow CBJ to get young assets back if they trade UFA Jones. Leafs would get cap space to acquire a Dman and more.


Yea could do that aswell.... Only other trade that is similar to this is call buffalo for Reinhart, Dahlin and a first for Marner...... Then eichel gets his help on the wing, there drafting Powers (New #1 D) and leafs get a good young D and a decent foward on a decent contract
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Not if Jones comes with an extension. If he doesn’t, then I agree.


Jones (and Reilly) area going to be two overpaid Dmen when they hit UFA. Both players aren't that special to get the $$$$ they are going to get. No thanks for a Jones extension (or Reilly)
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I get it, i would want to keep a top 5 goal scorer in the league..... But to may 4 players about 50 % of your cap is bananas (Unless you play basketball ahah) I was just trying to play around with options


My gut tells me Matthews is gone in 3 years so my real worry is not only trading away a 24 year old 90 plus winger, that all we will be left with is John Freaking Tavares.
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 25
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Yea could do that aswell.... Only other trade that is similar to this is call buffalo for Reinhart, Dahlin and a first for Marner...... Then eichel gets his help on the wing, there drafting Powers (New #1 D) and leafs get a good young D and a decent foward on a decent contract


I think that would be too much for the Sabres to give up. A signed Reinhart and Dahlin would be fine by me.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
My gut tells me Matthews is gone in 3 years so my real worry is not only trading away a 24 year old 90 plus winger, that all we will be left with is John Freaking Tavares.


Oooooofffff that would suck. I would agree if the leafs SOMEHOW dont get out of round 1 for the next 3 years. LOL trade him to Arizona for a HAUL
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 28
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If Dubas accepts Jones for Marner one for one he needs to be fired immediately.


To be fair Columbus fans could say same thing. It’s a tough move for both sides. I just don’t see with the state Columbus roster is in it’s the right time to unload assets to bring in a winger or contract of that significance.
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 35
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Oooooofffff that would suck. I would agree if the leafs SOMEHOW dont get out of round 1 for the next 3 years. LOL trade him to Arizona for a HAUL


Why would ARZ give up a haul if it is obvious that Matthews would be leaving TOR? Just as easy to give him as much money as he wants as a UFA to come home if it gets that far.
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 37
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Leafs are going to be worse next year?

WHAT

they arguable will be just fine to potentially better

They got 15mill to spend and with the flat contracts wont be to expensive.

Their Dcore is already set so no need to add their

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Liligren


Freddies 5mill comes off
Kerfoot 3.5mill will come off via Seattle

So, RN this is the leafs projected lines (all holes are ? till someone is signed)

Robertson-Matthews-Marner
?-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-?-Mikheyev
Brooks-Semenyov-Spezza

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Liligren


Campbell
?

Kerfoot goes to Seattle

so based on that

all Leafs need is a top 6 LW
3C
backup or 1b goalie
16 juin 2021 à 15 h 9
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Quoting: palhal
I agree with you. For some reason, Jones is a real darling of CF followers. Don't know why so many think the CBJ Dmen and goalies are such difference makers. The good part about Jones/Marner trade though, the Leafs get 5.5m in cap space this season and 11m in 21/22.


I don’t get it either.

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Not if Jones comes with an extension. If he doesn’t, then I agree.


That would be better, but even then I dont think it’s a good deal for the leafs.
16 juin 2021 à 15 h 11
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Quoting: Timmah007
To be fair Columbus fans could say same thing. It’s a tough move for both sides. I just don’t see with the state Columbus roster is in it’s the right time to unload assets to bring in a winger or contract of that significance.


I disagree, that would be an absolute steal for the jackets.
16 juin 2021 à 15 h 33
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Jones (and Reilly) area going to be two overpaid Dmen when they hit UFA. Both players aren't that special to get the $$$$ they are going to get. No thanks for a Jones extension (or Reilly)


Fair enough, I personally think Jones is great, but he isn’t worth 10+ or anything.
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I don’t get it either.



That would be better, but even then I dont think it’s a good deal for the leafs.


Maybe… depends on what you guys need the most. A top right winger, or a number one defence man…. I believe you could get a younger one anyway for Marner.
16 juin 2021 à 16 h 18
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That's going to be a no. Pursuing Marner really only makes good sense if we're going for the immediate-bounceback plan, but doing that would be crippled by losing so many roster players.
16 juin 2021 à 19 h 58
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Maybe… depends on what you guys need the most. A top right winger, or a number one defence man…. I believe you could get a younger one anyway for Marner.


But Marner is among the best right wings in the league. Jones isn't among the best defenseman in the league.
 
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