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Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2021
Publié: 16 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
12 040 000 $
88 800 000 $
1850 000 $
1950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1950 000 $
68 250 000 $
66 000 000 $
34 250 000 $
33 000 000 $
Transactions
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COL
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi [Droits de RFA]
  2. Suzuki, Nick
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
suzuki extends 6y @ 5m
3.
COL
  1. Giordano, Mark (2 250 000 $ retained)
CGY
  1. Kadri, Nazem
Détails additionnels:
trade with seattle
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
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G
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
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UFA - 1
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DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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16 juin 2021 à 13 h 59
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Why would MTL trade Suzuki?
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16 juin 2021 à 14 h 0
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Why would MTL trade Suzuki?


Why would COL trade Girard? Goes both ways. This is a hockey trade and MTL fans have been mocking Girard to the Habs incessantly lately.
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 0
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No one does that trade
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 0
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MTL has a lot of LHD prospects so hopefully 2-3 of them can develop into the NHL, I would still take Girard but not if Suzuki would be involved, That's a hard pass IMO
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16 juin 2021 à 14 h 1
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MTL doesn't do this, they need LD for sure and I love Girard but that leaves a HUGE hole at C, they've needed young promising C for years and now they have that. They aren't going to fill one hole by putting a huge one up front.
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16 juin 2021 à 14 h 10
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would you do the same giordano deal with the flames?
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 18
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girard is really good. but hes not suzuki good
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 25
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girard is really good. but hes not suzuki good


He was in discussion for the Norris and is signed at $5m for the next 6 years...
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16 juin 2021 à 14 h 27
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would you do the same giordano deal with the flames?


sure if flames want kadri. not many good centers in expansion draft so i thought it make more sense for seattle
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 29
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Quoting: gpmack95
Why would MTL trade Suzuki?


they have kk and keep danault. gives them a top line d under 30. habs have no one in the system that projects to be as good as girard.
16 juin 2021 à 14 h 49
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they have kk and keep danault. gives them a top line d under 30. habs have no one in the system that projects to be as good as girard.


Yeah.....We still rather keep Suzuki
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16 juin 2021 à 14 h 56
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Yeah.....We still rather keep Suzuki


habs fans seem pretty interested in girard.
16 juin 2021 à 15 h 3
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habs fans seem pretty interested in girard.


Not if it's gonna cost Suzuki
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Not if it's gonna cost Suzuki


a player like girard isnt going to come cheap. i can understand not wanting to go from suzuki to kk or danault. unless kk takes a big jump that's a pretty steep drop off.
16 juin 2021 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
a player like girard isnt going to come cheap. i can understand not wanting to go from suzuki to kk or danault. unless kk takes a big jump that's a pretty steep drop off.


Is Girard is gonna cost Suzuki then MTL would probably leave trade talks
16 juin 2021 à 16 h 6
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Quoting: ggha777
Is Girard is gonna cost Suzuki then MTL would probably leave trade talks


yea the more i think about it i agree. value wise it's a nice win for the habs but without a heir apparent for suzuki the habs are only fixing one hole by opening another.
16 juin 2021 à 16 h 32
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He was in discussion for the Norris and is signed at $5m for the next 6 years...


and hes 23 and has over 250 nhl games played. wait till suzuki is 23 with over 250 nhl games played and he'll be in discussion for the selke too. you just don't trade a talent like suzuki for girard. girard is good. but hes not suzuki level good. suzuki is a step ahead.
16 juin 2021 à 16 h 47
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Quoting: Hockey247
and hes 23 and has over 250 nhl games played. wait till suzuki is 23 with over 250 nhl games played and he'll be in discussion for the selke too. you just don't trade a talent like suzuki for girard. girard is good. but hes not suzuki level good. suzuki is a step ahead.


So your logic here is "wait and see" over "look what he's already doing." Cool, cool.

Let's be real, neither team is looking to trade either of these guys, but the value in this trade is about right. All of this "take Drouin, Lehkonen, and a 2nd" for Girard is a load of crap, and yet another example of Habs fans overvaluing your players.
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16 juin 2021 à 16 h 51
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Quoting: Foppa21
So your logic here is "wait and see" over "look what he's already doing." Cool, cool.

Let's be real, neither team is looking to trade either of these guys, but the value in this trade is about right. All of this "take Drouin, Lehkonen, and a 2nd" for Girard is a load of crap, and yet another example of Habs fans overvaluing your players.


all those drouin trades are extremely stupid. girard would immediatly be the habs best offensive d-man. stop listening to those drouin trades. the only sensible drouin trade ive seen has been for ristolainen but thats a different issue. the value is off even now because suzuki not only is getting better offensively, but hes already being compared to bergeron defensively. thats not an easy name to throw around. this kid is special. girard is an elite puck mover as well. he would look insane beside weber because he won't really have to worry about defending when you have a 6'4 monster as your d-partner. but the value is off, also considering the teams involved. suzuki is the first legit center habs have had in a very very very long time. imo mtl would love girard. i know they tried to darft him too. but i dont see a deal happening that involves suzuki. the only player i see the habs trading suzuki for would be eichel (a package obv).
16 juin 2021 à 17 h 0
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all those drouin trades are extremely stupid. girard would immediatly be the habs best offensive d-man. stop listening to those drouin trades. the only sensible drouin trade ive seen has been for ristolainen but thats a different issue. the value is off even now because suzuki not only is getting better offensively, but hes already being compared to bergeron defensively. thats not an easy name to throw around. this kid is special. girard is an elite puck mover as well. he would look insane beside weber because he won't really have to worry about defending when you have a 6'4 monster as your d-partner. but the value is off, also considering the teams involved. suzuki is the first legit center habs have had in a very very very long time. imo mtl would love girard. i know they tried to darft him too. but i dont see a deal happening that involves suzuki. the only player i see the habs trading suzuki for would be eichel (a package obv).


girard is already elite offensively and defensively. suzuki has the potential to get there on both accounts but isn't there yet. avs should be compensated for their risk since girard has proven so much more while only being a year older.
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16 juin 2021 à 17 h 5
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
girard is already elite offensively and defensively. suzuki has the potential to get there on both accounts but isn't there yet. avs should be compensated for their risk since girard has proven so much more while only being a year older.


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all those drouin trades are extremely stupid. girard would immediatly be the habs best offensive d-man. stop listening to those drouin trades. the only sensible drouin trade ive seen has been for ristolainen but thats a different issue. the value is off even now because suzuki not only is getting better offensively, but hes already being compared to bergeron defensively. thats not an easy name to throw around. this kid is special. girard is an elite puck mover as well. he would look insane beside weber because he won't really have to worry about defending when you have a 6'4 monster as your d-partner. but the value is off, also considering the teams involved. suzuki is the first legit center habs have had in a very very very long time. imo mtl would love girard. i know they tried to darft him too. but i dont see a deal happening that involves suzuki. the only player i see the habs trading suzuki for would be eichel (a package obv).


Not to mention the value Girard's contract carries. A norris level defenseman signed to that deal is a unicorn, and that won't come cheap.
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16 juin 2021 à 17 h 8
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Not to mention the value Girard's contract carries. A norris level defenseman signed to that deal is a unicorn, and that won't come cheap.


i kind of accounted for that in the original post by stating that suzuki signs an equivalent extension. but in real life girards contract make him excessively more valuable than suzuki.
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16 juin 2021 à 17 h 15
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i kind of accounted for that in the original post by stating that suzuki signs an equivalent extension. but in real life girards contract make him excessively more valuable than suzuki.


O for sure, I was just speaking to @Hockey247 's claim that Girard isn't as valuable as Suzuki

Lol. This was just posted as we're talking about it: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2478761
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16 juin 2021 à 17 h 30
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O for sure, I was just speaking to @Hockey247 's claim that Girard isn't as valuable as Suzuki

Lol. This was just posted as we're talking about it: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2478761


lol just what we need to compete. draft picks and a forward stuck on the ir for mysterious reasons.
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16 juin 2021 à 18 h 4
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Why would MTL trade Suzuki?


Trading for a Francophone. Of course MTL does this.
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