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Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2021
Publié: 16 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
1st- Owen Power
3rd- William Eklund
9th- Mason McTavish

I tried to make these trades fair
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Power, Owen
3925 000 $
Eklund, William
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
SEA
  1. Asplund, Rasmus
Détails additionnels:
I really think they should expose Thompson over him but at the current moment Asplund is the one to go.

Maybe they could send a pick for Seattle to pick Miller
2.
BUF
  1. Comtois, Maxime
  2. Dostal, Lukas
  3. Henrique, Adam
  4. Terry, Troy
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
We aren't getting Zegras or Drysdale. Its obvious

Pick is 3rd overall

Henrique for cap
3.
BUF
  1. Beagle, Jay
  2. Juolevi, Olli
  3. Truscott, Jacob [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
9th Overall

We could take back another contract if you don't want to get rid of Truscott
4.
BUF
  1. Boqvist, Jesper
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
5.
BUF
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
IDK
6.
BUF
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $56 016 207 $1 487 500 $5 452 500 $25 483 793 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
820 000 $820 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
874 125 $874 125 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 050 000 $3 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Eklund, William
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 456 250 $1 456 250 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 5
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
864 166 $864 166 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DD
RFA - 1
Power, Owen
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
822 500 $822 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
G
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
889 166 $889 166 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1

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16 juin 2021 à 10 h 48
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Actually, I think it would be pretty fair to assume that one of Drysdale or Zegras be included in any deal with Anaheim.

There may be some injury concerns but, its still Jack Eichel. Big, strong, scoring top line franchise centres don't grow on trees.

I don't think that asking for one of those two blue chippers would be out of the question at all and the Sabres would be justified in doing so.
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16 juin 2021 à 10 h 48
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You dont get that much out of ANA either. Take out Terry Dotsal and the second and thats the ceiling of what Eichel returns. His injury lowers his value, and if ANA isnt on the same page as him surgery wise it gets even lower

Ducks can take on Eichel without trading cap back, Henrique has positive value in an Eichel deal not negative
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16 juin 2021 à 10 h 49
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Actually, I think it would be pretty fair to assume that one of Drysdale or Zegras be included in any deal with Anaheim.

There may be some injury concerns but, its still Jack Eichel. Big, strong, scoring top line franchise centres don't grow on trees.

I don't think that asking for one of those two blue chippers would be out of the question at all and the Sabres would be justified in doing so.


Already been reported they are both untouchable
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16 juin 2021 à 10 h 50
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You dont get that much out of ANA either. Take out Terry Dotsal and the second and thats the ceiling of what Eichel returns. His injury lowers his value, and if ANA isnt on the same page as him surgery wise it gets even lower

Ducks can take on Eichel without trading cap back, Henrique has positive value in an Eichel deal not negative


ya no chance
16 juin 2021 à 10 h 52
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Quoting: Trevorchef
Actually, I think it would be pretty fair to assume that one of Drysdale or Zegras be included in any deal with Anaheim.

There may be some injury concerns but, its still Jack Eichel. Big, strong, scoring top line franchise centres don't grow on trees.

I don't think that asking for one of those two blue chippers would be out of the question at all and the Sabres would be justified in doing so.


I don't disagree that Buf would be asking for one of them, I just don't know how it would make any sense for the Ducks to do it? Like, adding Eichel would be fun and all, but thinking that moving the farm for him will somehow lift you from 2nd worst in the league to anything even close to competitive is laughable. Anaheim assumes wayyyy too much risk here.
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16 juin 2021 à 10 h 53
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ya no chance


Keep living in denial my friend
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16 juin 2021 à 11 h 0
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why would Anaheim even consider trading for Eichel?
it's not like they are an Eichel away from contending. not to mention that any trade for Eichel will only set them further behind.
i agree that Anaheim has the assets for an Eichel trade, just don't agree that it makes sense for them at this point.
16 juin 2021 à 11 h 0
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Beniers over Eklund and Wallstedt over MacTavish.

As for the trade returns? They are very underwhelming.
16 juin 2021 à 11 h 1
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I don't disagree that Buf would be asking for one of them, I just don't know how it would make any sense for the Ducks to do it? Like, adding Eichel would be fun and all, but thinking that moving the farm for him will somehow lift you from 2nd worst in the league to anything even close to competitive is laughable. Anaheim assumes wayyyy too much risk here.


Thats fair, and so they should. Any Eichel trade would have to come with either the assurance that he is healthy enough to play or a very pre-agreed upon understanding of recovery time after surgery to properly use LTIR.

If the Sabres asked for Drysdale + Henrique (for salary purposes) + The 3rd overall pick.... Would the ducks do it?

I think that would be a very fair return for Buffalo IF the Ducks know exactly what they are getting in Eichel.
16 juin 2021 à 11 h 10
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not getting Joulevi or Trescott, or this years 1st from Vancouver
16 juin 2021 à 11 h 11
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Keep living in denial my friend


so comtois henrique and a 1st
16 juin 2021 à 11 h 12
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Quoting: Shnooks
Beniers over Eklund and Wallstedt over MacTavish.

As for the trade returns? They are very underwhelming.


eklund 100%
16 juin 2021 à 11 h 14
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Wings also pass, makes 0 sense for them and a big overpayment
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16 juin 2021 à 11 h 16
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Devils decline
16 juin 2021 à 11 h 18
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so comtois henrique and a 1st


I'd say the most I see ANA giving up would be Comtois + Henrique + 2021 3OA + Jacob Perreault

I just dont see ANA giving up more than that, they arent a player away, I think they're 2ish years away from selling the farm for a player.

I think BUF gets better returns from Minny, CBJ (3 firsts this draft), LAK. Those teams are in a better position than ANA to add an Eichel type player
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16 juin 2021 à 11 h 27
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Quoting: Trevorchef
Thats fair, and so they should. Any Eichel trade would have to come with either the assurance that he is healthy enough to play or a very pre-agreed upon understanding of recovery time after surgery to properly use LTIR.

If the Sabres asked for Drysdale + Henrique (for salary purposes) + The 3rd overall pick.... Would the ducks do it?

I think that would be a very fair return for Buffalo IF the Ducks know exactly what they are getting in Eichel.


If this were a year in the future, I'd absolutely consider it. Honestly, it's like Zegras though. If we were an Eichel away from being competitive, I would absolutely consider trading him. But, we're not, and won't be for at least 2 years. I just think it's extremely short sighted to start moving picks and prospects when (at best) this moves you from 2nd worst to 9th-10th worst. Plus, even if you look past the injury stuff, what's to say Jack doesn't show up and say "Welp...you guys also suck...I'm going to demand a trade, but now I have the power of my NMC, which is going to absolutely f*ck you smile"
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16 juin 2021 à 11 h 29
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I'd say the most I see ANA giving up would be Comtois + Henrique + 2021 3OA + Jacob Perreault

I just dont see ANA giving up more than that, they arent a player away, I think they're 2ish years away from selling the farm for a player.

I think BUF gets better returns from Minny, CBJ (3 firsts this draft), LAK. Those teams are in a better position than ANA to add an Eichel type player


Agreed. A new coach, plus somehow pairing Eichel/Laine together is a good way to try to drum up some ticket sales in CLB.
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16 juin 2021 à 11 h 35
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Lol tage thompson returning a 2nd
16 juin 2021 à 11 h 50
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Lol tage thompson returning a 2nd


Not enough? wink
16 juin 2021 à 11 h 51
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Yeah Devs not giving a player who is just cracking the lineup. We're interested but not at that price, especially if we are taking the whole salary
16 juin 2021 à 12 h 5
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not getting Joulevi or Trescott, or this years 1st from Vancouver


ya we are
16 juin 2021 à 12 h 9
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What sources?
16 juin 2021 à 12 h 9
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ya we are


No, No your not
16 juin 2021 à 12 h 11
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What sources?


sources
16 juin 2021 à 12 h 42
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Quoting: Salzy
I'd say the most I see ANA giving up would be Comtois + Henrique + 2021 3OA + Jacob Perreault

I just dont see ANA giving up more than that, they arent a player away, I think they're 2ish years away from selling the farm for a player.

I think BUF gets better returns from Minny, CBJ (3 firsts this draft), LAK. Those teams are in a better position than ANA to add an Eichel type player


I dont even seeing Perreault being added to this deal. I could see them adding in Tracy to the deal.

Just a guess it would be Comtois, Henrique, 2021 first and Tracy/Thrun.

Ducks really dont have to throw henrique in for Cap, cause they have Cap space already. And you cant call henrique a "Cap dump" He is versitle and is a great leader. he performed very well in the worlds. His salary may be a tad inflated. But he was on pace for 30 goals the year before and would have hit it if not for the shut down.
 
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