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What Sources are Indicating

Créé par: Sabres_Insider
Date de création initiale: jun 16, 2021
Publié: 16 jun à 10 h 44
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Explications
1st- Owen Power
3rd- William Eklund
9th- Mason McTavish

I tried to make these trades fair
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Power, Owen3925 000 $
Eklund, William3925 000 $
Transactions
BUF
    SEA
    1. Asplund, Rasmus
    Détails additionnels:
    I really think they should expose Thompson over him but at the current moment Asplund is the one to go.

    Maybe they could send a pick for Seattle to pick Miller
    BUF
    1. Comtois, Maxime
    2. Dostal, Lukas
    3. Henrique, Adam
    4. Terry, Troy
    5. 2021 1e round pick (ANA)
    6. 2022 2e round pick (ANA)
    Détails additionnels:
    We aren't getting Zegras or Drysdale. Its obvious

    Pick is 3rd overall

    Henrique for cap
    ANA
    1. Eichel, Jack
    BUF
    1. Juolevi, Olli
    2. Beagle, Jay
    3. Truscott, Jacob [Liste de réserve]
    4. 2021 1e round pick (VAN)
    Détails additionnels:
    9th Overall

    We could take back another contract if you don't want to get rid of Truscott
    VAN
    1. Reinhart, Sam
    2. Murray, Brett
    BUF
    1. Boqvist, Jesper
    2. 2022 2e round pick (NJD)
    NJD
    1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
    2. 2021 2e round pick (BOS)
    BUF
    1. 2022 2e round pick (WSH)
    IDK
    DET
    1. Thompson, Tage
    BUF
    1. 2021 4e round pick (BOS)
    2. 2022 4e round pick (BOS)
    BOS
    1. Miller, Colin
    Rachats de contrats
    • Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
    • Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Eric Staal: 1 625 000 $ (50%)
    • Taylor Hall: 4 000 000 $ (50%)
    Enfoui
    • Jake McCabe: 1 775 000 $ (2 850 000 $)
    • Cody Eakin: 1 175 000 $ (2 250 000 $)
    • Linus Ullmark: 1 525 000 $ (2 600 000 $)
    • Carter Hutton: 1 675 000 $ (2 750 000 $)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    BUF
    ANA
    VAN
    BUF
    FLA
    MTL
    BUF
    BOS
    MTL
    BUF
    COL
    BUF
    2022
    BUF
    BUF
    ANA
    NJD
    WSH
    BUF
    BUF
    BOS
    BUF
    BUF
    2023
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    BUF
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2481 500 000 $60 384 957 $1 487 500 $5 452 500 $21 115 043 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    ANA
    Comtois, Maxime
    820 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Cozens, Dylan
    894 167 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 3
    BUF
    Ruotsalainen, Arttu
    925 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Bjork, Anders
    1 600 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 3
    BUF
    Mittelstadt, Casey
    874 125 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Olofsson, Victor
    3 050 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    Eklund, William
    925 000 $
    ANA
    Henrique, Adam
    5 825 000 $
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    BUF
    Skinner, Jeff
    9 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    NJD
    Boqvist, Jesper
    925 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Girgensons, Zemgus
    2 200 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
    ANA
    Terry, Troy
    1 450 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 3
    BUF
    Quinn, Jack
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 4
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    BUF
    Dahlin, Rasmus
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Borgen, William
    864 166 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
    778 333 $
    G
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Samuelsson, Mattias
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 3
    BUF
    Jokiharju, Henri
    925 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    ANA
    Dostal, Lukas
    822 500 $
    G
    RFA - 3
    Power, Owen
    925 000 $
    VAN
    Juolevi, Olli
    863 333 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    VAN
    Beagle, Jay
    3 000 000 $
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    BUF
    Bryson, Jacob
    889 166 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Okposo, Kyle
    6 000 000 $
    AD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Équipe de réserve
    BUF
    Davidson, Brandon
    700 000 $ (0 $)
    DG
    UFA - 1

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Ruotsalainen, A.
    Cozens, D.
    Comtois, M.
    Mittelstadt, C.
    Dahlin, R.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Bjork, A.
    Henrique, A.
    Olofsson, V.
    Jokiharju, H.
    Skinner, J.

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    16 jun à 10 h 48
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    Actually, I think it would be pretty fair to assume that one of Drysdale or Zegras be included in any deal with Anaheim.

    There may be some injury concerns but, its still Jack Eichel. Big, strong, scoring top line franchise centres don't grow on trees.

    I don't think that asking for one of those two blue chippers would be out of the question at all and the Sabres would be justified in doing so.
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    16 jun à 10 h 48
    #2
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    You dont get that much out of ANA either. Take out Terry Dotsal and the second and thats the ceiling of what Eichel returns. His injury lowers his value, and if ANA isnt on the same page as him surgery wise it gets even lower

    Ducks can take on Eichel without trading cap back, Henrique has positive value in an Eichel deal not negative
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    16 jun à 10 h 49
    #3
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    Quoting: Trevorchef
    Actually, I think it would be pretty fair to assume that one of Drysdale or Zegras be included in any deal with Anaheim.

    There may be some injury concerns but, its still Jack Eichel. Big, strong, scoring top line franchise centres don't grow on trees.

    I don't think that asking for one of those two blue chippers would be out of the question at all and the Sabres would be justified in doing so.


    Already been reported they are both untouchable
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    16 jun à 10 h 50
    #4
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    Quoting: Salzy
    You dont get that much out of ANA either. Take out Terry Dotsal and the second and thats the ceiling of what Eichel returns. His injury lowers his value, and if ANA isnt on the same page as him surgery wise it gets even lower

    Ducks can take on Eichel without trading cap back, Henrique has positive value in an Eichel deal not negative


    ya no chance
    16 jun à 10 h 52
    #5
    Lenny7
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    Quoting: Trevorchef
    Actually, I think it would be pretty fair to assume that one of Drysdale or Zegras be included in any deal with Anaheim.

    There may be some injury concerns but, its still Jack Eichel. Big, strong, scoring top line franchise centres don't grow on trees.

    I don't think that asking for one of those two blue chippers would be out of the question at all and the Sabres would be justified in doing so.


    I don't disagree that Buf would be asking for one of them, I just don't know how it would make any sense for the Ducks to do it? Like, adding Eichel would be fun and all, but thinking that moving the farm for him will somehow lift you from 2nd worst in the league to anything even close to competitive is laughable. Anaheim assumes wayyyy too much risk here.
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    16 jun à 10 h 53
    #6
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    Quoting: Sabres_Insider
    ya no chance


    Keep living in denial my friend
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    16 jun à 11 h 00
    #7
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    why would Anaheim even consider trading for Eichel?
    it's not like they are an Eichel away from contending. not to mention that any trade for Eichel will only set them further behind.
    i agree that Anaheim has the assets for an Eichel trade, just don't agree that it makes sense for them at this point.
    16 jun à 11 h 00
    #8
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    Beniers over Eklund and Wallstedt over MacTavish.

    As for the trade returns? They are very underwhelming.
    16 jun à 11 h 01
    #9
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    I don't disagree that Buf would be asking for one of them, I just don't know how it would make any sense for the Ducks to do it? Like, adding Eichel would be fun and all, but thinking that moving the farm for him will somehow lift you from 2nd worst in the league to anything even close to competitive is laughable. Anaheim assumes wayyyy too much risk here.


    Thats fair, and so they should. Any Eichel trade would have to come with either the assurance that he is healthy enough to play or a very pre-agreed upon understanding of recovery time after surgery to properly use LTIR.

    If the Sabres asked for Drysdale + Henrique (for salary purposes) + The 3rd overall pick.... Would the ducks do it?

    I think that would be a very fair return for Buffalo IF the Ducks know exactly what they are getting in Eichel.
    16 jun à 11 h 10
    #10
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    not getting Joulevi or Trescott, or this years 1st from Vancouver
    16 jun à 11 h 11
    #11
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Keep living in denial my friend


    so comtois henrique and a 1st
    16 jun à 11 h 12
    #12
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    Quoting: Shnooks
    Beniers over Eklund and Wallstedt over MacTavish.

    As for the trade returns? They are very underwhelming.


    eklund 100%
    16 jun à 11 h 14
    #13
    Buffbry
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    Wings also pass, makes 0 sense for them and a big overpayment
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    16 jun à 11 h 16
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    Devils decline
    16 jun à 11 h 18
    #15
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    Quoting: Sabres_Insider
    so comtois henrique and a 1st


    I'd say the most I see ANA giving up would be Comtois + Henrique + 2021 3OA + Jacob Perreault

    I just dont see ANA giving up more than that, they arent a player away, I think they're 2ish years away from selling the farm for a player.

    I think BUF gets better returns from Minny, CBJ (3 firsts this draft), LAK. Those teams are in a better position than ANA to add an Eichel type player
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    16 jun à 11 h 27
    #16
    Lenny7
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    Quoting: Trevorchef
    Thats fair, and so they should. Any Eichel trade would have to come with either the assurance that he is healthy enough to play or a very pre-agreed upon understanding of recovery time after surgery to properly use LTIR.

    If the Sabres asked for Drysdale + Henrique (for salary purposes) + The 3rd overall pick.... Would the ducks do it?

    I think that would be a very fair return for Buffalo IF the Ducks know exactly what they are getting in Eichel.


    If this were a year in the future, I'd absolutely consider it. Honestly, it's like Zegras though. If we were an Eichel away from being competitive, I would absolutely consider trading him. But, we're not, and won't be for at least 2 years. I just think it's extremely short sighted to start moving picks and prospects when (at best) this moves you from 2nd worst to 9th-10th worst. Plus, even if you look past the injury stuff, what's to say Jack doesn't show up and say "Welp...you guys also suck...I'm going to demand a trade, but now I have the power of my NMC, which is going to absolutely f*ck you smile"
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    16 jun à 11 h 29
    #17
    Lenny7
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    Quoting: Salzy
    I'd say the most I see ANA giving up would be Comtois + Henrique + 2021 3OA + Jacob Perreault

    I just dont see ANA giving up more than that, they arent a player away, I think they're 2ish years away from selling the farm for a player.

    I think BUF gets better returns from Minny, CBJ (3 firsts this draft), LAK. Those teams are in a better position than ANA to add an Eichel type player


    Agreed. A new coach, plus somehow pairing Eichel/Laine together is a good way to try to drum up some ticket sales in CLB.
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    16 jun à 11 h 35
    #18
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    Lol tage thompson returning a 2nd
    16 jun à 11 h 50
    #19
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    Quoting: Drw4209
    Lol tage thompson returning a 2nd


    Not enough? wink
    16 jun à 11 h 51
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    Yeah Devs not giving a player who is just cracking the lineup. We're interested but not at that price, especially if we are taking the whole salary
    16 jun à 12 h 05
    #21
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    Quoting: yztnuK
    not getting Joulevi or Trescott, or this years 1st from Vancouver


    ya we are
    16 jun à 12 h 09
    #22
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    What sources?
    16 jun à 12 h 09
    #23
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    Quoting: Sabres_Insider
    ya we are


    No, No your not
    16 jun à 12 h 11
    #24
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    Quoting: sabrespain
    What sources?


    sources
    16 jun à 12 h 42
    #25
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    Quoting: Salzy
    I'd say the most I see ANA giving up would be Comtois + Henrique + 2021 3OA + Jacob Perreault

    I just dont see ANA giving up more than that, they arent a player away, I think they're 2ish years away from selling the farm for a player.

    I think BUF gets better returns from Minny, CBJ (3 firsts this draft), LAK. Those teams are in a better position than ANA to add an Eichel type player


    I dont even seeing Perreault being added to this deal. I could see them adding in Tracy to the deal.

    Just a guess it would be Comtois, Henrique, 2021 first and Tracy/Thrun.

    Ducks really dont have to throw henrique in for Cap, cause they have Cap space already. And you cant call henrique a "Cap dump" He is versitle and is a great leader. he performed very well in the worlds. His salary may be a tad inflated. But he was on pace for 30 goals the year before and would have hit it if not for the shut down.
     
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