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Eichel- wont happen but think its fair

Créé par: jrdroge25
Date de création initiale: jun 16, 2021
Publié: 16 jun à 8 h 58
Équipe: 2021-22 Devils du New Jersey
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RFAANSCAP HIT
Sharangovich, Yegor33 000 000 $
Kuokkanen, Janne32 500 000 $
Mcleod, Michael21 250 000 $
Siegenthaler, Jonas2900 000 $
Merkley, Nick1850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Halák, Jaroslav12 000 000 $
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NJD
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Ristolainen, Rasmus
BUF
  1. Zacha, Pavel
  2. Foote, Nolan
  3. Bahl, Kevin
  4. 2021 1e round pick (NJD)
  5. 2022 2e round pick (NJD)
NJD
    SEA
    1. Johnsson, Andreas
    NJD
    1. Leddy, Nick
    NYI
    1. 2021 5e round pick (BUF)
    2. 2022 4e round pick (NYI)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Cory Schneider: 2 000 000 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Will Butcher: 910 569 $ (24%)
    Frais appliqués
    • Ilya Kovalchuk: 250 000 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    NYI
    NYI
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    ARI
    2022
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    EDM
    NJD
    CBJ
    NJD
    NJD
    2023
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
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    2381 500 000 $72 266 666 $0 $6 082 500 $9 233 334 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    NJD
    Hughes, Jack
    925 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Eichel, Jack
    10 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    NJD
    Holtz, Alexander
    925 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 3
    NJD
    Bratt, Jesper
    2 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Hischier, Nico
    7 250 000 $
    C
    UFA - 6
    NJD
    Mercer, Dawson
    894 167 $
    AD
    RFA - 3
    NJD
    Kuokkanen, Janne
    2 500 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA
    NJD
    Boqvist, Jesper
    925 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Sharangovich, Yegor
    3 000 000 $
    AD, AG, C
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Wood, Miles
    2 750 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Mcleod, Michael
    1 250 000 $
    C
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Bastian, Nathan
    825 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    NJD
    Smith, Ty
    863 333 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Severson, Damon
    4 166 666 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    NJD
    Blackwood, Mackenzie
    2 800 000 $
    G
    RFA - 2
    NYI
    Leddy, Nick
    5 500 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    NJD
    Subban, P.K.
    9 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Halák, Jaroslav
    2 000 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    NJD
    Siegenthaler, Jonas
    900 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Ristolainen, Rasmus
    5 400 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Maltsev, Mikhail
    809 167 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Merkley, Nick
    850 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Butcher, Will
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    DG
    UFA - 1

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    16 jun à 9 h 01
    #1
    Jack Hughes is Elite
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    We don't need Eichel

    Jack Hughes is fine as 1C
    Lenny7 a aimé ceci.
    16 jun à 9 h 08
    #2
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    We don't need Eichel

    Jack Hughes is fine as 1C


    Is he though? I know he's still young and needs to bulk up, but I think there are still question marks around him.

    Personally, if I were a Devil's fan I'd be fine with a 1-for-1 swap of Hughes for Eichel. While the money doesn't work, I think the trade makes sense. It accelerates the Devil's rebuild by light years whereas Buffalo has time to develop Hughes and the other young players around him.

    The only issue with Eichel as I see it are the question marks on the player he'll be from this injury.
    JokiStan a aimé ceci.
    16 jun à 9 h 08
    #3
    Lenny7
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    We don't need Eichel

    Jack Hughes is fine as 1C


    Yeah, I think he'll be fine, and you're likely better off taking small steps to build, as opposed to one giant leap that likely doesn't put you over the top. I also don't think you get Eichel with that package. I don't see a way it could possibly be done without including Holtz/Mercer as a starter, though I think they'd probably be asking for Hughes or Smith (Which you also shouldn't do).
    Devil1122 a aimé ceci.
    16 jun à 9 h 13
    #4
    Jack Hughes is Elite
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    Is he though? I know he's still young and needs to bulk up, but I think there are still question marks around him.

    Personally, if I were a Devil's fan I'd be fine with a 1-for-1 swap of Hughes for Eichel. While the money doesn't work, I think the trade makes sense. It accelerates the Devil's rebuild by light years whereas Buffalo has time to develop Hughes and the other young players around him.

    The only issue with Eichel as I see it are the question marks on the player he'll be from this injury.


    Devils shouldn't'/wouldn't trade Eichel for Hughes one for one due to injury concerns and speeding up the rebuild. Devils don't need to speed up the rebuild. Last time we did it (2019), it backfired on us.

    And Im confident Hughes will be a 1C
    16 jun à 9 h 14
    #5
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    Definitely not fair.
    DoubleADoubleK a aimé ceci.
    16 jun à 9 h 15
    #6
    NYI
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    Not enough for Leddy. He got his value back after this season. He may go in Expansion, but that's only because we'll protect Mayfield over him and we can lose his cap hit.
    16 jun à 9 h 19
    #7
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    Devils shouldn't'/wouldn't trade Eichel for Hughes one for one due to injury concerns and speeding up the rebuild. Devils don't need to speed up the rebuild. Last time we did it (2019), it backfired on us.

    And Im confident Hughes will be a 1C


    I'm definitely pulling for Hughes. I'm a big fan of his brother and would like to see him succeed, too. While other smaller players have made it, he just looks like a child out there and is easily knocked off the puck. If he can get stronger it shouldn't be an issue. When he flashes his skill you can see it's there.
    JokiStan a aimé ceci.
    16 jun à 9 h 20
    #8
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    1.) that deal does not get you Eichel 2.) BUF wouldnt do Hughes for Eichel straight up either
    16 jun à 9 h 21
    #9
    CHI NYI
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    Quoting: slapshot723
    Not enough for Leddy. He got his value back after this season. He may go in Expansion, but that's only because we'll protect Mayfield over him and we can lose his cap hit.


    Idk, I think I'm taking this if we're getting $5.5 million back in cap. There are defensemen we could get in a trade or free agency better than him for cheaper than that
    16 jun à 9 h 21
    #10
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    I get that NJD won't move hughes, but they would definetly need to move Smith or Holtz+ to make it happen. Not enough in the current package imo and adding another mid level piece doesn't help. Quality>Quantity
    16 jun à 9 h 21
    #11
    Jack Hughes is Elite
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    I'm definitely pulling for Hughes. I'm a big fan of his brother and would like to see him succeed, too. While other smaller players have made it, he just looks like a child out there and is easily knocked off the puck. If he can get stronger it shouldn't be an issue. When he flashes his skill you can see it's there.


    He's actually gained a lot of muscle since last offseason. He's been getting stronger, but could use more strength to help him stay on the puck more
    16 jun à 9 h 22
    #12
    Jack Hughes is Elite
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    Quoting: kedogs00
    1.) that deal does not get you Eichel 2.) BUF wouldnt do Hughes for Eichel straight up either


    Devils wouldn't either
    kedogs00 a aimé ceci.
    16 jun à 9 h 25
    #13
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    He's actually gained a lot of muscle since last offseason. He's been getting stronger, but could use more strength to help him stay on the puck more


    He needs the lower body strength. It needs to build a big ass like Sid lol
    Devil1122 a aimé ceci.
     
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