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Improving without haste

Créé par: Billy12Bob
Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 15 juin 2021
Publié: 15 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
!! All trades here have been proposed and accepted by other teams ACGMs, I find them reasonable !!

Note: The players on LTIR are on loan (johansson to Färjestad and Larsson to HV71) and are not available next season.

Objective:
1. Improve the team long term on LD and C.
2. Continue the rebuild by acquiring picks and prospects.
3. Allow a reasonable path for current and future prospects to make the roster.
4. Ensure that Grand Rapids have a full roster that is conducive to developing prospects.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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  1. Gardiner, Jake
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
CAR
    Future considerations.
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    1. Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]
    STL
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (WSH)
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    1. Finley, Jack
    2. Johnson, Tyler
    3. Ryfors, Simon
    4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
    TBL
      Future considerations
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      DET
      SEA
      1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
      2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
      Détails additionnels:
      Expansion draft.
      Making sure that Seattle does not pick Lindström/Svechnikov/Cholowski/Smith
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      15 juin 2021 à 4 h 25
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      Yup quality agm

      Would be neat to see Dunn up with Hronek

      And DDK with Seider for veteran whatnot

      Edit:

      Omg and then the super fun Gards/Stech pair 🎉
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      15 juin 2021 à 4 h 39
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      Quoting: Radu47
      Yup quality agm

      Would be neat to see Dunn up with Hronek

      And DDK with Seider for veteran whatnot

      Edit:

      Omg and then the super fun Gards/Stech pair 🎉


      Well...

      Even as an armchair version of Yzerman I have to leave the tinkering with the roster to Blashill.

      I do like Dunn with Seider though, Seider is a better passer than Hronek is and I think he'll help Dunn to score more points than Hronek is able to.

      DDK is on his last year in Detroit and I sort of hope that his #6 spot is divided equally between DDK and Cholowski and Lindström.
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      15 juin 2021 à 7 h 43
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      Well thought out. Good job. I wouldn't give up a 3rd to make sure Seattle doesn't take Lindstrom, Cholowski or Svechnikov. I won't lose any sleep if we lose any of them. But that's just me. I still bugs me that Holland protected Abdelkader and lost Nosek.
      15 juin 2021 à 8 h 23
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      Quoting: Letter_Kenny
      Well thought out. Good job. I wouldn't give up a 3rd to make sure Seattle doesn't take Lindstrom, Cholowski or Svechnikov. I won't lose any sleep if we lose any of them. But that's just me. I still bugs me that Holland protected Abdelkader and lost Nosek.


      One of Holland's many blunders.
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      15 juin 2021 à 10 h 34
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      Blues accept for sure. The chances of Detroit selecting someone there being better than Dunn are slim in this draft.
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      15 juin 2021 à 11 h 11
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      Quoting: Letter_Kenny
      Well thought out. Good job. I wouldn't give up a 3rd to make sure Seattle doesn't take Lindstrom, Cholowski or Svechnikov. I won't lose any sleep if we lose any of them. But that's just me. I still bugs me that Holland protected Abdelkader and lost Nosek.


      I really want to keep both Cholowski and Lindström for at least one more year if not two.

      On RD there's only Seth Barton and nothing else as backup unless Yzerman can convince Tuomisto to skip college.

      On LD there's an unconvincing DDK on his last year and since Johansson is staying in Färjestad one more season there's nothing really convincing on that side either.

      The tinyest injury could wreak havoc with the defense unless we have both Lindström and Cholowski as backups. If you also factor in that Stecher might either want to go UFA or demand such a raise that he has to be traded at the deadline it's even worse.

      Ideally I'd want DDK and Lindström and Cholowski to split the games three-way between them this season and keep a close watch on Johansson and the other kids. If there are two of them that show enough improvement the next season then I'd re-appraise the situation after Christmas sometime.
      15 juin 2021 à 11 h 16
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      Blues accept for sure. The chances of Detroit selecting someone there being better than Dunn are slim in this draft.


      It's slim in any draft.
      A pick at #22 only has about 50% chance of getting a player that ever plays in the NHL regardless of at what level.

      This works for both teams due to circumstances. Detroit gets a good D and Blues gets a decent pick for someone they can't keep. Everyone's happy.
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      15 juin 2021 à 11 h 19
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      Quoting: redw1n9s
      One of Holland's many blunders.


      Yes. Vegas picked the BPA, Nosek's been good for them.
      15 juin 2021 à 11 h 23
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      I like most of this, maybe a bit high on some of the rfas, but considering we aren't going to be near the cap for a few seasons that's fine. I like the nosek signing. I really think I would be asking for Alnefelt from Tampa before the other players, unless you were planning on drafting Wallstedt. I would also probably start veleno in GR so he gets a better opportunity to play.
      15 juin 2021 à 11 h 29
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      Quoting: redw1n9s
      One of Holland's many blunders.


      Quoting: Letter_Kenny
      Well thought out. Good job. I wouldn't give up a 3rd to make sure Seattle doesn't take Lindstrom, Cholowski or Svechnikov. I won't lose any sleep if we lose any of them. But that's just me. I still bugs me that Holland protected Abdelkader and lost Nosek.


      About Svechnikov.

      I really want to give him a full year at that 3rd-line to see if he can get it together.

      I fully expect both Raymond and Berggren and also Ryfors to make the team next year (22-23) and that makes Fabbri a prime candidate to be traded at this deadline.

      There will have to be one more player traded for the 22-23 season and it'd have to be one of Svechnikov/Pánik/Smith. Pánik and Smith are more or less known quantities but I'd really hate to see Svech be lost without first being given a real good chance to prove himself.
      15 juin 2021 à 11 h 34
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      Quoting: Billy12Bob
      It's slim in any draft.
      A pick at #22 only has about 50% chance of getting a player that ever plays in the NHL regardless of at what level.

      This works for both teams due to circumstances. Detroit gets a good D and Blues gets a decent pick for someone they can't keep. Everyone's happy.


      If I'm the Blues, I might look to move up in the draft in some way. I'm big on Lysell, but so is a bunch of other teams. Guy has an incredible motor.
      If they can't though, I'd love to get Koivunen who is your prototypical jack of all trades but a master of none.
      15 juin 2021 à 11 h 37
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      Quoting: Letter_Kenny
      Well thought out. Good job. I wouldn't give up a 3rd to make sure Seattle doesn't take Lindstrom, Cholowski or Svechnikov. I won't lose any sleep if we lose any of them. But that's just me. I still bugs me that Holland protected Abdelkader and lost Nosek.


      "The Pylon" was Kenny's boy.
      15 juin 2021 à 11 h 47
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      Quoting: Lancebmx
      I like most of this, maybe a bit high on some of the rfas, but considering we aren't going to be near the cap for a few seasons that's fine. I like the nosek signing. I really think I would be asking for Alnefelt from Tampa before the other players, unless you were planning on drafting Wallstedt. I would also probably start veleno in GR so he gets a better opportunity to play.


      I'm hoping we can get Eklund at #6.

      If he's gone I'd go for Lysell. Lysell have the capacity to be every bit as good as Raymond. Raymond got all the publicity due to his hat track on Askarov in the U18 worlds final and playing together with Kalle Henriksson and Alexander Holtz. Lysell have not been in the limelight in the same way, his team mates haven't been anyway near as good as what Raymond was surrounded by. Fabian is a very special player and would be a very good pick at #6. Besides, wingers are the spot where Wings are weakest ( with Ryfors + Finley).

      Wallstedt would be my third choice.

      Alnefelt is a good goalie prospect but not as good as Wallstedt and good goalies aren't that hard to trade for so I'm not panicking about that position. I doubt Tampa would consider offering him and I see the centre position as more important to secure at this phase in the rebuild.

      If we get Eklund in the draft I don't want Veleno in Grand Rapids at all. I want Ryfors between Raymond and Berggren and Eklund on 2C and Finley on 3C. Veleno handled 3C well after the deadline this season and I trust him to keep it up. He's a lot better at C than Rasmussen or Fabbri is.
      15 juin 2021 à 11 h 49
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      Quoting: Chopper02
      If I'm the Blues, I might look to move up in the draft in some way. I'm big on Lysell, but so is a bunch of other teams. Guy has an incredible motor.
      If they can't though, I'd love to get Koivunen who is your prototypical jack of all trades but a master of none.


      Have a look at Samu Salminen. All Finnish scouts have him as #2 behind Räty.
      15 juin 2021 à 11 h 54
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      If we get Eklund in the draft I don't want Veleno in Grand Rapids at all. I want Ryfors between Raymond and Berggren and Eklund on 2C and Finley on 3C. Veleno handled 3C well after the deadline this season and I trust him to keep it up. He's a lot better at C than Rasmussen or Fabbri is.[/quote]

      I'm very confused by this. Ryfors and Finley?
      15 juin 2021 à 12 h 0
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      Quoting: redw1n9s
      If we get Eklund in the draft I don't want Veleno in Grand Rapids at all. I want Ryfors between Raymond and Berggren and Eklund on 2C and Finley on 3C. Veleno handled 3C well after the deadline this season and I trust him to keep it up. He's a lot better at C than Rasmussen or Fabbri is.


      I'm very confused by this. Ryfors and Finley?[/quote]

      Look at the trade with TB.
      15 juin 2021 à 12 h 13
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      I'm hoping we can get Eklund at #6.

      If he's gone I'd go for Lysell. Lysell have the capacity to be every bit as good as Raymond. Raymond got all the publicity due to his hat track on Askarov in the U18 worlds final and playing together with Kalle Henriksson and Alexander Holtz. Lysell have not been in the limelight in the same way, his team mates haven't been anyway near as good as what Raymond was surrounded by. Fabian is a very special player and would be a very good pick at #6. Besides, wingers are the spot where Wings are weakest ( with Ryfors + Finley).

      Wallstedt would be my third choice.

      Alnefelt is a good goalie prospect but not as good as Wallstedt and good goalies aren't that hard to trade for so I'm not panicking about that position. I doubt Tampa would consider offering him and I see the centre position as more important to secure at this phase in the rebuild.

      If we get Eklund in the draft I don't want Veleno in Grand Rapids at all. I want Ryfors between Raymond and Berggren and Eklund on 2C and Finley on 3C. Veleno handled 3C well after the deadline this season and I trust him to keep it up. He's a lot better at C than Rasmussen or Fabbri is.


      I don't mind that way of thinking at all, I think fabbri could fetch a good return, but I don't mind hanging on to him for another couple years until the young guys are ready. Not a guarantee they all develop to top 6 players. I think fabbri could fit well in Edmonton to be honest, maybe a deal is made there with Neal, I know you don't like they idea of taking a useless player on but if the return in greater could be an option
      15 juin 2021 à 12 h 19
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      Quoting: Billy12Bob
      I'm very confused by this. Ryfors and Finley?


      Look at the trade with TB.[/quote]

      Oh haha you said it so confidently I thought we had two prospects I didn't know about....
      15 juin 2021 à 12 h 44
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      Quoting: Billy12Bob
      Have a look at Samu Salminen. All Finnish scouts have him as #2 behind Räty.


      Haven't looked at him yet. Will have to after work. Räty I think could be the next Nichuskin. Had so much more offensive promise for the longest, but ends up being one heck of a middle 6 player in the league.
      15 juin 2021 à 12 h 51
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      Quoting: Chopper02
      Haven't looked at him yet. Will have to after work. Räty I think could be the next Nichuskin. Had so much more offensive promise for the longest, but ends up being one heck of a middle 6 player in the league.


      Räty is underrated (by us amateurs, not the pros) due to him being too young for Liiga and too good for Junior. He has just found out that playing against 30 year old men isn't the same as playing against 18-19 year old kids.

      He'll figure it out and will turn into a really good player-
      15 juin 2021 à 13 h 31
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      Quoting: Billy12Bob
      Räty is underrated (by us amateurs, not the pros) due to him being too young for Liiga and too good for Junior. He has just found out that playing against 30 year old men isn't the same as playing against 18-19 year old kids.

      He'll figure it out and will turn into a really good player-


      Räty has fallen significantly in the professional scouting ranks, not just the amateurs because his game hasn't progressed the way it should have by now. That stated, his defensive game is underrated and his offensive game is there at times where he dominates. I think he'll be a solid NHL player.
       
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